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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:34 PM
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The NewsHour (PBS) --great discussion on Revengegate
Second half of the hour with Terry Smith

Republican CIA rep: "It sickens me to be a Republican" (if this is the standard of partisan behavior)

HOT!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:39 PM
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1. SHEESH, what a quote!!!!
"it sickens me to be a republican" - Holy Smokes!

You're only starting to feel that way NOW??

Oh well, I DO believe in redemption...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:48 PM
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2. HOLY SHEETS!!! You're kidding?
Just as we've suspected. The intel community will bring the Bushies down. I suspected as much when Rand Beers left and then joined the Kerry campaign and now Joe Wilson. WOW. This is big.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:01 PM
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3. It's on again and I'm lovin all this...the rethuglican was terrific...
He was mad as hell...said he knew her only by a first name, and that he was an analyst and undercover...so Novak doesnt know what he's talking about. What a day!

Thank you Universe.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:07 PM
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4. Revengegate.. I like That!!!
We all know how this little twit loves holding grudges.. There's no way that the top dogs did not know about this :(

Nixon's dirty tricks guys could have taken LESSONS from this bunch

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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:10 PM
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5. It's on here now
I'm amazed at Gen. Zinni! He's laying it on Whistle Ass for selling of Iraq war! Can't wait to hear the rest of the program!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:07 PM
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6. kick for the night shift
*
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:18 PM
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7. Larry Johnson, ex-CIA: "I'm ashamed to be a Republican"
Interviewed on Newshour, went to CIA with Plame, said he knew her as an excellent agent, quiet, honest, upstanding, and undercover for thirty years, said he was disgusted with the excuses that Republicans were using to discredit her and the seriousness of the charges against whoever outed her.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:22 PM
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8. I saw that.
If there's a transcript it would be worth a look. Larry Johnson, ex-CIA, really stuck it to the Bushies. Sounded really angry.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:26 PM
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9. FULL quote
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 07:35 PM by tinnypriv

JOHNSON: This not an alleged abuse. This is a confirmed abuse. I worked with this woman. She started training with me. She has been under cover for three decades. She is not as Bob Novak suggested a "CIA analyst." Given that, i was a CIA analyst for 4 years. I was under cover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the Central Intelligence Agency unti I left the Agency on Sept. 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it. The fact that she has been under cover for three decades and that has been divulged is outrageous. She was put undercover for certain reasons. One, she works in an area where people she meets with overseas could be compromised.

(questions to panel)

JOHNSON: For these journalists to argue that this is no big deal... and if I hear another Republican operative suggesting that, well, this was just an analyst. Fine. Let them go undercover. Let's put them go overseas. Let's out them and see how they like it.

They wouldn't be able to stand the heat.

(questions to rest of panel)

JOHNSON: I say this as a registered Republican. I am on record giving contributions to the George Bush campaign. This is not about partisan politics. This is about a betrayal, a political smear, of an individual who had no relevance to the story. Publishing her name in that story added nothing to it because the entire intent was, correctly as Amb. Wilson noted, to intimidate, to suggest that there was some impropriety that somehow his wife was in a decision-making position to influence his ability to go over and savage a stupid policy, an erroneous policy, and frankly what was a false policy of suggesting that there was nuclear material in Iraq that required this war. This was about a political attack. To pretend it was something else, to get into this parsing of words.

I tell you, it sickens me to be a Republican to see this.

(Larry Johnson, former counter-terrorism official at CIA and State)
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:38 PM
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12. Mr.Johnson gives me faith in Mankind! He Realizes Bush is NOT
an AMerican but a greedy SOB!! :bounce:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:46 PM
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13. DING DING DING
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:48 PM
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14. Thanks!
Have a :hug:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:20 PM
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17. but I wanted a cookie!!!!!
:D
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:54 PM
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19. Thank you!
Just saw the video. That is a keeper!
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:18 PM
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16. Jesus!
I never thought I would see the day! This is GREAT!!

Publishing her name in that story added nothing to it because the entire intent was, correctly as Amb. Wilson noted, to intimidate, to suggest that there was some impropriety that somehow his wife was in a decision-making position to influence his ability to go over and savage a stupid policy, an erroneous policy, and frankly what was a false policy of suggesting that there was nuclear material in Iraq that required this war.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:28 PM
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10. let everybody at the NewsHour know how you feel
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:32 PM
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11. This was a terrific interview
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 07:37 PM by JoFerret
a MUST see. Read the transcript. (It's not up yet but, when it is...)Extraordinary. It was with Lehrer. If you can catch it being aired, watch it.)
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:03 PM
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15. Did you hear Larry Wilson say....
something like "I'm deeply ashamed to be a Republican right now." I nearly started doing cartwheels in my den. :D
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:24 PM
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18. You mean Johnson? n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:23 PM
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20. RevengeGate! What a Great Name!
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 10:24 PM by David Zephyr
That's what I'm calling it. Revengegate. Who coined that phrase, Librechik? It's perfect. Is that your, Librechik?
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:29 PM
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21. Larry Johnson is a man with some honor
We have at least one Republican with enough self respect and true patriotism to say that he's disgusted with this petty behavior that put this woman's life and career at risk. And he's calling his own out on this for making the issue seem like a minor incident. Bless the courage of this man for sticking up for someone he knew personally in the field.

Sonia
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