OK, what do you DUers think? Was CNN Presents enough to get Bush

[bribri16]

IMPEACHED?

[Egalitariat]

1. How many Republican Congressmen would vote to impeach?

Not enough. People who think Bush would ever get impeached have no understanding of how the system works.

[never_get_over_it]

But if we even had a few Repunks

with an ounce of integrity like there apparently was in the 70s - they would march their asses to the White House and tell the freak in chief that it is over - you know kind of like the Republicans that told Nixon to give it up - any Republicans out their with integrity - or are you all like I fear rePUNKS

[Horse with no Name]

46. To coin a phrase

They are ALL "made men".
There is only honor among thieves and murderers...and make no mistake, there is blood on their hands as well.
To convict Bush is to convict themselves.
It's not happening.

[Dinger]

2. Depends On How They Spin This

But yes, it clearly is enough, more than enough.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

3. I think

it let him off the hook, and threw all the blame on the intelligence community.

I was really disappointed - not nearly enough stress on how the Executive Branch manipulated the data and screwed the CIA. This was a very Fuckface-friendly show, and I think it stinks.

[Canuckistanian]

Hey, be grateful, this is the most damning thing CNN has done

A LOT of people will start asking questions now. Until now if you were a Joe sixpack just watching Fox, MSNBC or CNN all of this would be an eye-opener.

And just wait for the shitstorm tomorrow on the AM hate stations...

[joemurphy]

19. I totally agree with you.

It was a "Blame It on Intelligence Failures" all the way. And that's a total distortion of what happened.

They took thin intelligence and hyped it and ignored everything that was contrary. I have a 75-page chronology of this. You can't read that chronology and put the blame solely on the intelligence community.

No mention of PNAC, Cheney's repeated lies, Chalabi, Judy Miller, Rice, the White House Iraq Group, gutless Presidential candidates, the November 2002 elections and most of all, our wonderful Prez.
And poor deluded Colin Powell.

It was crap.

I was very disappointed by this.

[ellenfl]

20. i disagree, altho' bushco will spin it that way. eom

[rainy]

28. I disagree too, they made it look like the Administration was

manipulating and Tenant was a big puppet but kisser.

[Blue_In_AK]

45. Tenet received the medal of freedom

for being the fall guy.

[cdb]

4. Nope. Unless you count the choir they are preaching to.

Joe and Mary voter aren't even watching it.

[liberaliraqvet26]

5. It's the start of the freefall of the GOP

[nosmokes]

6. same old shit

nothing new. why di iever expect to learn anything watching CNN? on the plus side at least they din't interrupt the program with a newsflash that natalie holloway was still missing in aruba...

[earthmama]

9. Now it is the missing Model

flipping through the channels I came across "breaking news" on FAUX about the model ....

Don't they have anything better to report on ...

[nosmokes]

26. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! not a model!

how dark and cruel this world can be!

meanwhile, i spose the dozen or so missing women of color just don't fucking rate on a national scale, right? and as terrible as a missing person story is, i'm sorry, but it doesn't rate lead-off status in my world, or even major story status. give me some new about something that impacts me, like what are the particulars of the energy bill, why don't the troops in iraq and afghanistan have the body armor they need, still? why is gasoline more expensive than a year ago? why is america building a military a military base in paraquay? is it too fucking much to ask for the news to give me news?

[earthmama]

36. YESSSS

the pretty blond model from a rich family ( probally).

America doesn't care about Iraq or woman of color missing, they don't care about all that ... FAUX news reports waht america wants to hear :sarcasm:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

7. They should have titled it "TENET WAS DEAD WRONG"

I think at one point they asked the question as to whether the Bush Administration would have gone to war anyway, even without the CIA intelligence. I heard something like "we will never know". That's about all they said about Bush's intent. To me, this was an attempt to pin the blame on George Tenet and give Bush an excuse. I also note the emphasis CNN made of the fact that Tenet was a Clinton appointee, right at the start of the program.

[ChowChowChow]

13. OR Tenent was Dubyas Bitch!

[Missy M]

8. Yes, it should be but it won't get him impeached.....

there is more to the story than what was revealed tonight. bush, cheney and the rest are and were lying right from the beginning. They didn't give a damn what the evidence was and I believe they knew there were no WMD's all along. They are a bunch of slimy, sleazy, lying low lifes and the sad part is they are running this country and we can't seem to stop them. They are ALL criminals who belong in prison for life.

[ChowChowChow]

10. CNN of course DID NOT go far enough

Every time they came really close to blaming it ALL on lies. They would hedge. But it is a beginning. Notice the article from the times they showed on the "tubes" was co written by Judy THe liar Miller!

[RSchewe]

34. I was looking to see if they were going to show Judith Miller's name on...

the article and they did. Too bad they did not discuss the CIA leak case and the Niger lies. They missed a whole load of information that would take a while to name each item.

In any case like I said in another post in this thread was that being it was CNN, it was ok. People in the news these days are so afraid of being labeled a conspiracy theorist, that the alarming parts of the truth have become taboo.

[RSchewe]

35. They did not mention the anodized coating of the aluminium tubes n/t

[tinfoilinfor2005]

11. Probably not while they control everything, but it did do two things:

1. I think the message was very clear that the neocons were bullying the CIA for what they wanted, although I think they put more of that on cheney than on junior.

2. I think it really helps Cindy's cause. It just underlines everything that Cindy is asking questions about.

[Bluebear]

12. No. But it is one more puzzle piece. nt

[Armstead]

14. No but it probably helped more people realize the truth

A drip in the drip,drip,drip

[Son of California]

15. I think CNN has changed some minds tonight

and you will see it in the next poll.

Impeachment will swing on two major things

1) How well Dems do in 06. -Not just getting the votes back in Congress, but also scaring the hell of the the Repub Sens and Reps so that they are willing to distance themselves from Bush to save their own ass.

2) After 06, where popular sentiment is on whether the Bushies lied.

[ChowChowChow]

17. I hope so!

Do you all really think we can get him impeached?
Would that be great. I just cannot stand to even look at Bush anymore.

[bribri16]

24. You made a very important point about scaring the hell out of the

Rethugs. Since they are chickenhawk cowards anyway a few more revelations ought to turn them against their fearless leader.

[KingFlorez]

16. There's plenty of evidence

But no one to act on it. 2006 is important, because we need to win Congress so that this information can be acted on.

[ChowChowChow]

18. I agree...We need 2006 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Solly Mack]

21. No but then it won't be any one thing that does it

if it were to even happen....

but the program was worth watching...and worth taping...and worth using against Bush to help further expose his lies.

[mamacags]

22. Oh please

Do people honestly even watch CNN anymore? Clicking your heels together and praying to a crystal won't do much either.

[SpiralHawk]

38. Shows how little you know of the old ways of this continent

and the minerals therin. You would do well to study the crystals and crystal technology -- the wave of the future rides on a bed of silicon. This much is clear.

[HeeBGBz]

39. Word of mouth and repeated airings helping a lot

So who prays to a crystal anyway? Odd statement.

[RSchewe]

23. Pretty good ...for CNN. Mostly a whitewash for Bush. Just blamed CIA.

They made it seem like it was the fault of the intelligence community and not the administration.

There were some good spots. Unfortunately the piece looked to not be alarmist. They could have mentioned the CIA leak case, Judith Miller (besides the NY Times article bearing her name that they showed), and Ambassador Joseph Wilson.

[bribri16]

27. How much more bashing and outing is the CIA going to take from this

administration?

[RSchewe]

33. As much as it takes to save their hides. Good ol' hot potato. n/t

[flordehinojos]

30. aahhhhh. thanks for the enlightenment. it was too good to be true

that they would hold bush accountable.

[RSchewe]

32. Don't get me wrong , it was a must see. A nice compilation of how it....

was reported. It was a good retrospective. They also breifly mentioned the Downing Street Memos.

Check it out

[cmd]

25. Not impeached but

It was a wake up call for a lot of Americans. Of course, Free Republic is denying the existance of CNN. I just drifted over to hear them complain, but all they are doing is talking about how they are ignoring CNN.

[jaysunb]

31. Yes, ignored, right after they flipped the channel

back to whatever T&A show was playing.

[AnnInLa]

29. They bought the WMD crap, they bought Sadam was an evil man that needed to

be removed, they bought that there was a connection between Iraq and Al Quaida, and now they are buying the crap about "spreading democracy keeps us safe" and "fight them over there" crap.

They believe crap because they WANT to believe crap.

After 9/11, the sheeple wanted blood, and they didn't and DON'T CARE how they get it. They don't care about PNAC and plans of Murikan imperialism. They want their ounce of flesh...even if it means alot of the blood spilling comes from our soldiers.

There is no way to get the cabal out of office unless the people become satiated from the blood-letting, disgusted with the wingers' attempts to control their lives and thoughts, and unless the economy hurts them strongly in their paycheck. Then, maybe they will vote repukes out.

[matt819]

37. Impeachment is not enough

The momentum needs to build to force him to resign. Yes, I know, the truly evil one will become president, but he, and the republicans generally, would be revealed for what they are, and for the balance of his term he would be hobbled.

[brettdale]

40. if we email everybody on earth

then yes.

[Independent_Liberal]

41. We need to force the Congress to impeach. Check this out...

www.recallthecongress.com

I wish more people would pursue this. I've been screaming my head off about it but nobody listens to me.

[ellenfl]

43. we (the people of florida) won't be able to do anything until

jeb is gone. hopefully then we can take our state back.


ellen fl

[ellenfl]

42. i watched it again . . .

i agree that it mostly gives bushco a pass. however, there are a few times where it is implied that the admin shared the responsibility . . . particularly referencing the dsm and the part where one of them talked about losing their job if they did not tell the admin what it wanted to hear.

it's a start!

i hope y'all watched the national geographic show. it includes the instances where the warnings were ignored . . . by the agency and by the admin.

2nd of the 2 parts is on tonight.

ellen fl

[oasis]

44. Damage to Bush from 1 to 10 on the Mclaughlin scale. A 10.