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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:53 PM
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Bush was right! 9/11 and Iraq war REALLY are connected.
It's not a connection based in secret meetings of operatives. But a connection based in analogy. 9/11 was the deliberate and willful take over of several airplanes that were maliciously steered into the WTC, the Pentagon, and a field in Pa. It was a cold and callous slow motion catastrophe engineered by foreign forces hostile to our Government. The Nation was powerless to stop this Al Qaida made disaster of epic proportions. The terrorist on board the flight disagreed with the massive dissent on board the plane by the passengers. America could only stand by helplessly and watch as thousands of our fellow Americans were killed in our homeland.

The Iraq war was the deliberate and willful abuse of several government agencies that maliciously steered our Military into the Sovereign State of Iraq. It was a cold and callous slow motion catastrophe engineered by domestic forces hostile to our Government processes. The Nation was powerless to stop this White House made disaster of epic proportions. President Bush disagreed with a massive display of dissent against the war by the American people. America could only stand by helplessly and watch as thousands of our fellow Americans were and still are being killed in a foreign land.

You were right President Bush. You are truly wiser than We The People. They are almost identical. You now have my full attention. I promise that I will hang on your every word. As you tell us every single thing that you know about 9/11 and Iraq. I now eagerly await your every word of Wisdom. Please speak to us all as the great uniter that you are.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:59 PM
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1. You forgot to mention the slaughter of helpless, innocent thousands
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 09:00 PM by Bucky
Sick minds can justify killing 1000s in the name of an idea. Later they'll quibble, say they had no personal beef with their victims, wheedle their away from the moral responsibility for the actions they've taken, claim inspiration and authority in the name of God. sick sick sick.
<< added picture on edit
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:30 PM
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10. Iraq's or ours?
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 10:38 PM by Wizard777
We can't control the insurgents actions with any real certainty. Well not far beyond making them duck when we shoot at them and making them die when we hit them. But we can control our actions. Now it's just basically Tit for Tat. Someone has to be the bigger country and stop the tit to prevent the tat. So do you think that might be us?
I also think that we may be sending a very wrong message about democracy to Iraq. It's not about controling things to the nth degree. In a democracy there comes a time to let the chips fall where they may. Then live with it or die from it. We cannot continue to allow our troops to fall by the way and fall by the day. We have put Iraq in a position to have democracy if they truly want it. Just likeoyr dorefathers let themfight and die for it. We already have done that for them and ourselves. We are now endangering our own democracy. I think our job there is beyond done. We are well into overkill. Let the chips fall where they may.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:57 AM
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19. Nostradamus mentions the third antichrist as the "Prince of Persia"
entering Europe with a "blue turban"... Update this pic for more accuracy...

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:00 PM
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2. very clever
:)
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growlypants Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:05 PM
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3. Thank god. I thought you were serious by the title and almost fell..
outta my chair. Nice analogy. Well done. Very true.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:50 PM
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9. Sorry, That was malicious bit of sarcasm on my behalf.
I'm willing to attract and face a fire storm to get that point across. I admit it's a shameless promotion. Hey look at me I'm an idiot and while I have your attention......

Once again, I'm sorry and thank you for the complements
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:11 PM
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4. One problem
"The Nation was powerless to stop this Al Qaida made disaster of epic proportions." The Nation was not powerless to sto this Al Qaida made disaster - our government wss warned over and over and over again - and yet nothing was done. The Clinton administration stopped the millenium bomber and the freak in chif's administration could have and should have stopped 9/11 Now Iraq on the other hand was powerless to stop the freak in chief's shock and awe.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:38 PM
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7. Not a real problem. Please allow me to elaborate.
In the Constitution. We The People and Our Government are sperate and distinct entities. They have powers over us and we have protection from those powers. I tend to apply "Nation" to We The People and Country to the Government. There is nothing We the people could have done. There are things our Government or country could have done.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:45 PM
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8. Gotcha
and now I'm completely cool with your original post. THANKS!
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:57 PM
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11. Gotcha? 9/11 is not my fault!
It isn't your fault either. I thought we already established that. Maybe I got you. LOL Now that we are sure that We the People are not to blame for 9/11. Lets talk about the Patriot Act.

This punishes us with reduced liberties and rewards the government with greater freedom to spy upon us. I reiterate. We have done nothing to merrit this pubishment. We did our part. We watched the attack in shock and awe. We were horrified by it. We placed our bitter differences aside and united behind the President to prosecute a war against those responsible for the attacks. To serve justice to those responsible for the attacks upon our fellow americans and homeland.

Now let pretend that there was something that we the people could have done to prevent 9/11. Like call the FBI and say, There are middle eastern males in Florida taking flying lessons and they seem pretty upset with America. How much more freedom does the Goverment need to get agents down there to investigate?
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:14 PM
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5. exactly......
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 09:17 PM by hwmnbn
I now eagerly await your every word of Wisdom.


Let's keep all the attention on his words in the next few days. He seems to be out of sight lately. He must know everyone is watching the turn of events in Iraq. This war president is losing his war.

Slogans won't work now. He has to come up with answers. It will be fun to watch him squirm. :smoke:

Cindy is right, this is his accountability moment.


edited to add quote
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:43 AM
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13. BushCo.We bring insanity to life.
"We have seen the enemy and it is us."

Oh boy do I really understand that now. We have done to Iraq exactly what Al Qaida did to us. Bush declred themebilthen attacked them with out giving them a cgance to respond to the charges. While calling us unamerican.
When you fight fire with fire. To the victor goes the ashes. I would say ashes is a good description of Bush's Presidency. Just because that atrocity bears the made in the USA label. Doesn't make it any better. Not to mention that if we do not do something about Bush very soon. Atrocity may be the only thing made in the USA.

The good news for President Bush is that his mandate and political capitol are very safe. It's hidden under cubic tons and tens of thousands of liters of bio/chem weapons. All he has to do is go to Iraq to get it.
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:20 PM
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6. Also...
Sadamm had a secretary named Lincoln, while Osama had a secretary named Kennedy... errr... maybe I'm getting my half-assed, pseudo-connections confused.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:00 AM
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12. They're connected in that Bushco was a major player
in both attacks.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 AM
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14. On 9/11 and a lil while there after. I was behind Bush and
singing his praises. Then he started fighting against investigations. Boy it didn't take him long to screw that up. His 15 minutes of fame lasted about 5 minutes with me. The rest went down in infamy.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 AM
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15. Whoa! Timewarp dups
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 04:13 AM by Wizard777
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 AM
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16. massive dup.
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 04:09 AM by Wizard777
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:05 AM
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17. and a server fart too.
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 04:16 AM by Wizard777
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:21 AM
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18. Interesting take
Could it be that "domestic forces hostile to our Government processes" are associated with "foreign forces hostile to our Government"?

Surely Sibel Edmonds and other whistleblowers indicate that they are.

"...we don't hear the extent of the penetration that (Al Queda) and the sub-organizations have throughout the world, throughout their networks and throughout their various activities. It's extremely sophisticated. And then you involve a significant amount of money into this equation.
Then things start getting a lot of overlap - money laundering, and drugs and terrorist activities and their support networks converging in several points. And this money travels. And you start trying to go to the root of it and it's getting into somebody's political campaign, and somebody's lobbying. And people don't want to be traced back to this money."

"...once this issue gets to be investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally."

"There is direct evidence involving no more then ten American names that I recognized, some are heads of government agencies or politicians - but I don’t want to go any further than that."
-- Sibel Edmonds

Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344
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