repugs jumping ship? it's expected

[evil eggplant]

Don't blow a gasket when a repug like Hagel or McCain or even Frist or santorum take opposite sides with herr Furher.

It's one of two things-

They want to keep their jobs past '06, or they're shoring up their '08 presidential bids.

They all still have a mouthful of chimpy. Peas in a pod.

[still_one]

1. yup

[dajoki]

2. campaigning for '08...

include gingrich NYT 8/20/05 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/20/opinion/20dowd.html?th&emc=th

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"Any effort to explain Iraq as 'We are on track and making progress' is nonsense," Newt Gingrich told Adam Nagourney and David D. Kirkpatrick for a Times article on G.O.P. jitters about the shadow of Iraq over the midterm elections. "The left has a constant drumbeat that this is Vietnam and a bottomless pit. The daily and weekly casualties leave people feeling that things aren't going well."

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It isn't only the left that is invoking Vietnam. You know you're in trouble when Henry Kissinger gives you advice on how to exit a war.
The man who won a Nobel Peace Prize for making a botched exit and humiliating defeat look like a brilliant act of diplomacy wrote an op-ed article in The Washington Post drawing the analogy the White House dreads: Iraq as Vietnam, including an unfavorable comparison: "After the failure of Hanoi's Tet offensive, the guerrilla threat was substantially eliminated. Saigon and all other urban centers were far safer than major cities in Iraq are today."

He said Mr. Bush had only a few things to accomplish: train a real Iraqi Army that includes all religious and ethnic groups, make the Shiites stop hating the Sunnis and the Kurds stop hating everyone, and keep the Iranians from creating a theocratic dictatorship in Iraq. Oh, yeah, and a couple of other teensy little things: our troops have to defeat the vicious Iraq insurgency, and Mr. Bush needs to keep domestic support for the war.

Domestic support is waning because the president remains too stubbornly ensconced in his fantasy world - it's worse than Barbie in her dream house - to reassure Americans that he has a plan to get out.
As we approach the 2,000 mark of coffins coming home that we're not allowed to see, it doesn't even look like a war. It looks like a lot of kids being blown to smithereens by an invisible enemy

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Tricky Dick suggested that he had a secret plan to get out of Vietnam. Bikey W. doesn't even have a secret plan, unless it's to recreate forever, and never again have to speed past those pesky antiwar protesters in a motorcade

[lonestarnot]

3. Don't give a damn, I'm just getting satisfaction out of each rat overboard

because bushitler cringes at every slithering tail he watches bail.

[PatriotGames]

4. LOL. It's quite amusing, actually.

[lonestarnot]

5. Yesssssss...

[FreedomAngel82]

7. It is a good show

but it's also annoying because we've been screaming about this for a long time and now that the public is turning against them they're saying it. Ugh! They're only doing this because of the poll numbers.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Oh of course

They see the poll numbers. I have heard Hagel was against Iraq since 2003 but I'm not sure though. I'm weary of him myself because of how he is a Bush family friend and was once going to be Bush's VP until the "powers that be" behind the GOP choose Cheney. But watch if Bush and Cheney and the group does fall down they'll blame us for it. :eyes: