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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:29 PM
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Want to see how some Conservatives use their brain? Read this!
So I get this spam email from a conservative girl I know. It's about religion.

(snip of original email)
I like this idea!

WRITE IT ON THE BACK OF YOUR ENVELOPES

You may have heard in the news that a couple of Post Offices in Texas have been forced to take down small posters that say "IN GOD WE TRUST."
The law, they say, is being violated. It is something silly about electioneering posters (is God running for office)?
Anyway, I heard proposed on a radio station show, that we all write "IN GOD WE 'TRUST" on the back of all our mail. After all, that is our national motto, and it's on all the money we use to buy those stamps. I think it is a wonderful idea.
We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed.
If you like this idea, please pass it on and DO IT. The idea of writing or stamping "IN GOD ! WE TRUST" on our envelopes sounds good to me. I'M HAVING MY STAMP MADE TODAY!

So I wrote her back.
(My response)
I liked this part, "We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed."

I didn't realize there was some sort of anti-god campaign to have 'In God We Trust' taken off of everything. When did this happen?

Here's the problem, overly religious people can do whatever they want in their own time. They can build a 50 story church in their backyard with a gigantic 100 foot statue of Jesus in the front. They can advertise themselves. They can dance with snakes. They can even start massive television networks that raise millions of dollars. PRAISE JESUS!

Just do it on your own time. They have the freedom to practice on their own, while other people have the freedom to practice something else. No one has the freedom to ram it down everyone elses throat. Remember those people the Pilgrims? They came here because the King of England wanted to force his version of christianity down their throats.


AND CHECK OUT THIS TOTALLY BIZARRE RESPONSE!
It was actually the Holland pilgrams that came to this country to begin, but that is beside the point. I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with this ideology, but I certainly believe that some people have taken "political correctness" to an extreme. For example, what do you think would happen if a white man began the "United Caucasian College Fund?" There would be some serious drama in the country over something like that. I know that that example is a bit far from the religious idea, but it falls under the same principle: there is a point of being overly sensitive. I understand that not everyone in this world is a Protestant Christian, but there is a point when I think it's not about religion, or color, or anything else for that matter- it should be about history. Another example wouldd be the Confederate flag. While many said it should not fly over a public building in South Carolina because it represents slavery, what they don't realize is that the American flag flew over a country that supported and ENDORSED slavery for almost one hundred years! Secondly, I don't think that the S.C. gov't flew the flag to assert the white man's power over minorities; I think it was a tradition and a part of history. Guess what: no matter how hard anyone tries, it can't be changed! It's like not being allowed to call the men who created this nation the "Founding Fathers." I'm a female and I still think that is alright: the reality is that women were not in the Continental Congress or at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia. Was that right or wrong, can be argued for ever; the fact is that that is how it happened- it cannot be changed! Or what about the famous picture of the three white firefighters raising the American flag over the WTC rubble? Guess what? They are white and that is how it happened!! No changing history!!!! Okay, now that I'm done ranting, I hope you have enjoyed my middle-class, white, female, conservative opinions on a wide range of issues.

Gees, do ya think she's racist?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:40 PM
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1. more national motto bullshit
what happened to "E Pluribus Unum"?

:shrug:
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:47 PM
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4. It was replaced by
Caveat Emptor!
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:42 PM
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2. This is good advertizing for liberalism
Everyone find a piece of right-wing nonsense, write a simple, friendly opposition and ask a lot of questions. Wait for the freeper to go off on a hate-filled, illiterate rampage.

Publish the result under the title "Liberals vs. Conservatives" and ask people which side they are on.

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:47 PM
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3. The Holland pilgrims?
who are they? I've heard of the Dutch, but the "Holland Pilgrims" are a new group.

I hope she doesn't write or have any say in putting together school textbooks.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:59 PM
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7. "Dutch Pilgrims", paid for their own passage seperately...
"Holland Pilgrims" wore wooden shoes, so they could walk on the water if the boat couldn't get close enough for a dry landing.

:evilgrin:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:49 PM
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5. I had my niece tell my wife and me that she couldn't
wait until the "blacks outnumbered the whites and then I would be a minority and see if I could do what they get away with!". Mind you, I know this is an intelligent kid (18), doesn't want to vote for a repuke, and grew up with a father working in a Ford plant and a mother who is a teacher.

I politely pointed out to her that, guess what, she IS a minority! She's a Female!!

She had to admit that I was right, thereby deflating her sails a tad.

Maybe she shouldn't become a lawyer if I can blow her argument away that easily.
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starscape Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:51 PM
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6. She's all over the place.
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 06:54 PM by starscape
*edited to make sure I am not misunderstood.

Funny thing is, I agree with her to a point on the importance of being objective about history, and that goes for the confederate flag and "founding fathers," etc - in that we really need to understand these issues rather than teaching a knee-jerk reaction to things. But it's when those symbols - or concepts - are used as a tool of misguided pride or white protestant prejudice that I take offense.

And her statement about a White Caucasion College Fund is about as outrageous and offensive as you can get. I had someone use a similar, ridiculous argument when white students from that school in Georgia held a 'whites only' prom. This guy said, "well blacks can have their own prom, but when whites do it, look at the drama."

Give me an effin' break. Bigots.
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