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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:19 PM
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Quick, I need a list of quotes from the ** junta from the early
days drumming up the war beat. Am talking with someone who thinks it that the issue of freeing Iraqis was always a part of it, not just a reason added later on.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:24 PM
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1. A timeline.. some tidbits? Anything? (Googling furiously)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:26 PM
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2. This one
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:27 PM
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3. Thanks. :^)
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:35 PM
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4. This is a favorite from Blair/Bush in Crawford back in 2002
circa the Downing St. Minutes. (And Blair's answers are particularly interesting in that light.) Bush does mention freedom - in passing - but he has specific beefs with Mr. Hussein (from the Q&A):

Q ... I think what Europeans have a problem with about expanding any war on terror to Iraq is linkage. They can see a linkage between al Qaeda and Afghanistan. They can't see a direct linkage to Saddam Hussein.

Would you accept that there isn't a direct linkage and how, therefore --

THE PRESIDENT: First of all, I wouldn't accept that. But can't they see linkage between somebody who's willing to murder his own people and the danger of him possessing weapons of mass destruction, which he said he would not develop? I see the linkage between somebody who is willing to go into his own neighborhood and use chemical weapons in order to keep himself in power, and at the same time develop a weapon that could be aimed at Europe, aimed at Israel, aimed anywhere, in order to affect foreign policy through his -- you know, I can't imagine people not seeing the threat and not holding Saddam Hussein accountable for what he said he would do, and we're going to do that.

History has called us into action. The thing I admire about this Prime Minister is he doesn't need a poll or a focus group to convince him the difference between right and wrong. And it's refreshing to see leaders speak with moral clarity when it comes to the defense of freedom.

I intend to speak with clarity when it comes to freedom, and I know Prime Minister Tony Blair does, as well. And we will hold Saddam Hussein accountable for broken promises. And that's what a lot of our discussion over there on Prairie Chapel Ranch has been about. And, other than eating lunch, which we're fixing to go do, we're going to continue our discussions.

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Q Thank you. Mr. President, you have yet to build an international coalition for military action against Iraq. Has the violence in the Middle East thwarted your efforts? And Prime Minister Blair, has Bush convinced you on the need for a military action against Iraq?

THE PRESIDENT: Adam, the Prime Minister and I, of course, talked about Iraq. We both recognize the danger of a man who's willing to kill his own people harboring and developing weapons of mass destruction. This guy, Saddam Hussein, is a leader who gasses his own people, goes after people in his own neighborhood with weapons of -- chemical weapons. He's a man who obviously has something to hide.

He told the world that he would show us that he would not develop weapons of mass destruction and yet, over the past decade, he has refused to do so. And the Prime Minister and I both agree that he needs to prove that he isn't developing weapons of mass destruction.

I explained to the Prime Minister that the policy of my government is the removal of Saddam and that all options are on the table.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020406-3.html

This turkey wasn't flying so they had to hatch the yellowcake issue.
It was launched in the fall with Cheney, Rice and Judith Miller, and put in the SOTU in January of 2003.


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:38 PM
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5. Dang. Does take the wind out of my sails about it being just about
American security.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:51 PM
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8. I particularly like this little freudian slip
THE PRESIDENT: Adam, the Prime Minister and I, of course, talked about Iraq. We both recognize the danger of a man who's willing to kill his own people harboring and developing weapons of mass destruction. This guy, Saddam Hussein, is a leader who gasses his own people, goes after people in his own neighborhood with weapons of -- chemical weapons. He's a man who obviously has something to hide.

He starts to say "weapons of mass destruction," and then remembers he has to just stick to the gas claim. Then, "He's obviously a man who has something to hide." Ha! He ain't the only one!


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:02 PM
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9. If you want to see the debate, it's here
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:40 PM
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6. Not just quotes, but...
a few more helpful background sites:

Tom Paine Archives - War Rationale Version 10.0
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10143

Bush administration has used 27 rationales for war in Iraq, study says
http://www.news.uiuc.edu/news/04/0510war.html

and this one: The Complete Bush Quotes - First Term
http://estnyboer.com/bush/term1.htm

Go get 'em!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:50 PM
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7. Thanks, I am getting grief right now over this quote
" Clinton also said Tuesday night that at the end of his term, there was "a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for " in Iraq.
"So I thought it was prudent for the president to go to the U.N. and for the U.N. to say, 'You got to let these inspectors in, and this time if you don't cooperate the penalty could be regime change, not just continued sanctions.'"
Clinton told King: "People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."

I said that if we had let the inspectors stay in we might have found out what was there or not there, but that Bush yanked them back out.
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