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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:51 PM
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Watch this video!!!!!!
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/video/index.html

titled: In the Shadows: Discussion
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:06 PM
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1. "that's a tough guy to get" referring if the leaker is close to
the president. I think that the issue here is gonna be who is gonna go on record as to the source of the leak. The rest is heresay and inadmissable in the court of law. Unless KKKarl admits it they are gonna have a tough time prosecuting anyone.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:07 PM
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2. Wow!
Larry Johnson's take on this is above reproach--and he's a card-carrying 'pub!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:10 PM
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3. I think he's gonna be "Scott Rittered"
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:11 PM
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4. Absolutely riveting!
Thanks Cat, great video, really makes repugs look awful... I think this story might do some damage to Bush* and friends.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:24 PM
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5. Excellent points made by Larry Johnson...
who is a Republican, and he seems genuinely outraged by this event. As ex-CIA, he certainly lays the entire offense out plainly and simply.

Looks like this is the one, but I've thought that before and been wrong.

Excellent video. Good catch, Catwoman, as always.

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:25 PM
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6. Now Bush is in trouble...a pissed off Repub!
This Larry Johnson really lit into Republicans in general
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:26 PM
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7. Thanks CatWoman
Great stuff.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:36 PM
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8. he said 'no damage to NS, thats besides the point, it's the PRINCIPAL'
whatever gets the republicans to speak out i suppose :bounce:

or maybe admiting that would be DAMAGING to NS

peace
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:53 PM
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9. So when do they put Novak in jail?
Force him to reveal his sources? What's he afraid he'll put someone's life in danger?

That CIA guy sounded super pissed. I wouldn't want the whole agency mad at me--not for endangering one of their own! Look what happened to that American Taliban kid. If Karl Rove is the source, he'd best be looking over his shoulder from now on.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:34 PM
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16. EXACTLY! THANK YOU!
Bob Novak is THE KEY. Folks, we MUST keep hammering this point home, until we are blue in the FACE. Also, why are the other 5 journalists who got contacted by these 2 white house aids, why ain't they talking?

My theory on who they are goes like this:

1) Carl Rover = he's done it before...and got fired for it by Poppy Bush

2) Ari = notice how he resigned all the sudden, out of the blue? And where the hell is he NOW?

Things that make you go "HMM?"

READ BOB NOVAK's TAITOROUS COLUMN AT THIS LINK: www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20030714.shtml TELL A FIEND...WHILE THE LINK IS STILL GOOD.

It is right there, in BLACK AND FRIGGIN WHITE. No two ways around it kids.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:07 PM
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10. That was great!
Thanks for the link.

Johnson said he knew her and worked with her as a covert agent, not just an analyst, has known her for about thirty years.

The second interviewee said there is no criteria Novak can use to defend outing her.

As Republicans, they are angered and ashamed by this level of retribution against Wilson.
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Francis Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:25 PM
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21. 3 decades?
I saw the new hour interview and was impressed
This thread however has Wilson's wife age 40

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=141220
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:31 PM
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11. They are genuinely angry and disgusted, and rightly so.
Thank you CatWoman for posting this. I'm going to replay and listen to it again.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:36 PM
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12. Thank you, Catwoman.
Very, very sad. Sometimes being right (as most DUer's have been) is not fulfilling. I'll be glad when Bush is long gone, but I really am disappointed that it has come to all this. I hope the people learn a lesson, and I wish that no one else would be hurt due to greed and pride.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:39 PM
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13. Thanks for posting, Cat Woman. Truly "Must See TV"!
Both amazing and riveting interviews with people whose opinions matter.
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:07 PM
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14. Great video
I hope they nail the bastards.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:20 PM
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15. WOW Thanks CatWoman ..A Must See
:wow:
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:41 PM
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17. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
:wow:I wish they would book this guy on "Crossfire". This is great. Thanks for posting this.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 PM
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18. You don't suppose....
Larry Johnson was specifically chosen by the CIA to appear on PBS BECAUSE he's a Republican, do you? His comments tonight blew ALL of the Republican attempts to downplay this issue, outta the stratosphere. :D
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:49 AM
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23. Johnson is retired from the CIA
so he would hardly be specifically 'chosen' to appear by the CIA.
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einsteins stein Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:54 AM
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25. Doeas anyone ever really retire from the CIA? /nt
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:06 PM
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19. I don't get why...
if he went to school with her and they weren't allowed to know each other's name and he didn't realize it was her (they haven't shown her picture and often don't mention her name...I presume for security) until someone told him then how did Novak know her name...the maiden name she was using. It doesn't seem likely that the CIA would give that name if it isn't used among colleagues?.

Also, I wonder how this will effect security because it seems to me that even if no one dies there is still the problem of having someone with the same expertise and confidence trusted for so many years being "outed". It just seems likely that many that trusted her would be wary of exposing any information to someone new, especially in the present climate of wacky foreign policy. The area she was in (WMD) seems critical in light of the shifting power emphasis going on in the world now?.
...I was thinking of this because of post 8 ...

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:10 PM
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20. Very nice news analysis. Thanks for the link!
Very nice news analysis. Thanks for the link!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 12:43 AM
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22. Up ya go !
:bounce:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:49 AM
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24. kick it again sam!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 06:32 AM
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26. Back to one!
:kick:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:03 AM
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27. Excellent....
... Rosensteil provided cogent, concise analysis, Johnson the emotion. Nobody watching that clip could fail to be convinced that a serious crime has been committed.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 08:47 AM
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28. Thanks
It was a "must see"
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Colin Ex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:04 AM
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29. Kick
This is like, whabam. Or something.

Something awesome.

-C
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:57 AM
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30. one more kick
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