Ladies: Be careful who you choose to conceive with

[CatWoman]

Interesting conversation going on the Abrams Report.

The female gave the advice in my header.

The men on the panel lay the blame on the husband/boyfriend. Shades of Scott Peterson.

I think it's a little from column A, and a little from Column B.

They are talking about the young mother who was missing for some time. Turns out she was murdered by her boyfriend. He didn't want a baby.

[JohnnyBoots]

1. In the fundie mindset is that as bad as abortion, worse or not as bad?

[CatWoman]

2. that's a very good question.........

[undergroundpanther]

3. I wish people would

stop having babies.

Unless they REALLY wanted it,were psychologically prepared to cope with it,could take care of it and would not see the child as thiers or thier property to mold into thier own designs, and love it regardless,and would never abuse it.

I wish people would accept to be the best parents might reqire one to NEVER bear children.


And with the way this world is,I think it is good for more people to not to give birth... without SERIOUS HONEST forethought and REAL consideration for the child's future from the childs perspective(as best you can empathize). Parents egos and parental neurosis be damned..

And blaming the woman for her own murder is insane.Acting Out in Violence is ALWAYS a choice the ABUSER/Killer makes by huimself. THe man is GUILTY.He could havbe left,He could have not fucked her,He could have used a condom or got a vasectomy. Blaming the victim does not cut it,And it is no excuse because our culture is abusive and so many people hook up with abusive sexist assholes and think that is a normal relationship because they have been conditioned to desirea "dominant male" to breed a family,and they have bought into other state social scams done to populations to perpetuate a state of slavery and competition between different genders and people.

Don't have babies unless you are prepared and willing to accept that child is a person,not property.

Vasectomies and hystorectomies/tubal ligations should be offered for free,to anyone wanting one.And no one should fereel less of a human being for choosing childrfre..You should never murder a spouse because you do not want kids that guy was an asshole and deserves jail or to die.IMHO.

[notadmblnd]

4. you know... it really pisses me off that children are brought into

this world because people are to lazy to use birth control when they have sex. IMO, both genders are at fault for this. Young men, if you don't want no babies...either masturbate or wear a condom. Ladies if you think getting pregnant is gonna get your man commit, you're dead wrong. It's the one thing that runs them off faster than you can blink. I don't care who you have sex with as long as it is consenting, but have enough respect for yourselves to use protection both for your health and unwanted pregnancies.

[CatWoman]

5. I never understood that mindset

I've never met a couple who had trouble conceiving until I met a good friend here.

All my life, it's been around women spitting out babies indiscriminately.

My own sisters and daughter included.

[notadmblnd]

6. I have a sister and a neice

and I guess I'm angry at them because of the burden it placed not only on themselves but the entire family.