Noreen ODonell is a GD'ed SOB (Hardball)

[Donailin]

She just used the term "anti-war extremists" in regard to Camp Casey.

And now she is allowing the pro war Mark Williams to railroad Collen Rowley.

I cannot be any angrier than I am right now.

[Pirate Smile]

1. That asshole just wont shut up. Cut his mike, Nora.

[Still_Loves_John]

2. I tend give news people the benefit of the doubt

which puts me at odds with lots of people here, but I totally agree with you on this. She's been a huge bitch all week. Did you see earlier when her two panelists were John Fund and Howard Fineman? yeah, thats balance.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

3. colleen is playing it cool

calling williams "the other speaker"

[Beaverhausen]

4. Please watch your use of the B-word

can't you think of something else to call her?

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10. oh yeah...much better

:eyes:

[Donailin]

12. I am very angry

and also a female, and I did not realize that there is politically correct tone I must take on DU IRT the media who have essentially just called us all extremeists.
But I will note your defense of the media.

[VelmaD]

16. Oh good grief...

it isn't a defense of the medie...it's a request not to use gender slurs...even against women you don't agree with. :eyes:

[Bunny]

18. It's unfortunate that you consider having to forgo gender slurs to be

"politically correct". And calling it a "defense of the media" is extremely passive-aggressive. There ARE rules, please review them.

[VelmaD]

5. Please refrain from using...

gender slurs. You still have time to edit your subject line. Thank you.

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15. Woman or not...

DU has rules about this sort of thing. And calling any woman a gender slut demeans all women. I'm sure you get upset when they use that same word in re: Hillary Clinton or Barbara Boxer

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25. Oh please.,

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[VelmaD]

96. Did you ever actually read the rules...

as has been suggested in this thread? Because the term "media whore" is specifically mentioned as allowed in the rule regarding gender (and other) slurs I believe.

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[Donailin]

116. no, wackamole

Lewis Black once said that the scary thing about extremists is that they have no ability to laugh at themselves.

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[Donailin]

123. dang! I forgot that one!

thanks!

[slor]

124. Dane Cook is hilarious!

My favorite comic.

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38. Yeah. I am very proud to be an American and enjoy freedom of

expression. Without having to get a concensus on who likes it or agrees with it.

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43. self delete. dupe

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51. .

:popcorn:

[Kahuna]

55. .

LOL! But honestly. This subject horse was beat to death before. Nothing new here. Same old tired song.

[Kahuna]

52. You wouldn't call me a ..

jerk. That's what I was referring to. You wouldn't call me anything to my face.

[VelmaD]

56. Well...if you actually went around...

calling people names without regard to anyone's feelings the way you implied you did...after a while I probably would.

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[Bunny]

62. Hey, in America we take responsibility for our actions.

No one can provoke you into getting banned. You are the only one in control of your actions.

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64. ***snarf***

:spray:

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[Kahuna]

39. Riiiiiiiiiiight!!!! Glad you get it now.

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42. Whatever

:shrug: Happy now?

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[Donailin]

79. R. U. Serious.

I'm a woman, I am definitely less rational about one week before the flow. Emotions are much more intense, especially as I get older. I embrace it, I am not ashamed. Neither should you be.

[VelmaD]

85. Thank you for making a HUGE assumption...

my personality changes not one whit either before, during, or after my period. Sorry...gonna have to come up with a new one.

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[VelmaD]

100. Congratulations...

on making this personal.

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[VelmaD]

108. Let's try this one more time...

What I said was that if you actually did go around calling people names without regard to their feelings...which YOU said you did...then you shouldn't be surprised if people called you a jerk.

[Bunny]

68. Actually, I had a hysterectomy four years ago.

So, you'll have to come up with another "excuse" for my behavior. Gee, this should keep you stumped for a while! :rofl:

[Kahuna]

71. Ahhh!!!

:shrug:

[Bunny]

78. Well, there you have it!

Don't like the word bitch? Yer on the rag! Don't go on the rag anymore? Ahhh! Of course!

Damn, I am slayed by your superior logic! :rofl:

[Donailin]

74. well then ,there it is.

I'm sorry for your loss. That explains a lot.

[Bunny]

82. Oh, don't feel sorry for me. It was one of the best days of my life.

But do you see how you cannot even begin to answer me? I took away your only possible excuse, and you have absolutely no response to it!!! Hahaha :rofl:

[Donailin]

110. you are assuming

that I'm actually taking this thread seriously. You do realize that it is completely comical at this point, don't you?

The serious part -- Nora ODonell/MSNBC calling anyone against the war an extremist -- is completely diminished at this point. Why is that?

[VelmaD]

Well, you helped diminish the point...

when you couldn't express it without using a gender slur.

[Bunny]

115. You are spending enough time here, how else am I supposed to

interpret it? :shrug:

And BTW, calling O'Donnell a bitch and a cu**, as you did upthread, ws a great way to get your main point across! :applause:

[VelmaD]

20. Yes...and the result...

of many conversations on this subject was that the rules were modified to ask members not to use gender slurs...specifically "bitch".

[Kahuna]

22. Right. I recall. They "asked." They did not demand.

nt

[VelmaD]

26. Actually...

they didn't ban the word but they are generally quite consistent in deleting it whenever it appears.

[Kahuna]

29. Then do what you gotta do. What are you waiting for?

I know you plan to hit the alert button.

[Al-CIAda]

30. Right on. Sensitive PC types are annoying.

If she isn't a bastard, she's a bitch. Wish it away, but there it is.

[VelmaD]

32. Yeah...all the little gods and goddesses forbid...

we should ever be sensitive. *sigh*

[Bunny]

34. Please review the DU rules on use of gender slurs.

Sorry to be so "annoying".

[Kahuna]

48. Look at how they're now calling me every name in the book...

because I called someone they don't even know a bitch. Weird, isn't it? I can't begin to comprehend.

[VelmaD]

53. You have no idea what it's like...

to actually BE called every name in the book. Go back and read some of the threads where we've tried to seriously discuss gender and language on DU. I've been called repressed, puritanical, hysterical, over-emotional, silly, "on the rag", distracting from more important issues...hell you pick a stereotype about women and it's been hurled at me or other women on this board because we stand up and say no.

So cowgirl up.

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[VelmaD]

73. Add all the exclamation points you like...

won't change the fact that I've been called all those at one time or another. Wish I could give you links, but most of the really bad stuff got deleted (and not by my request...when people are vile I like for it to stay up so everyone can see).

on edit: here's the link to the Lounge thread where we talked about me being called "repressed" when it happened. Best link I've got at the moment...kinda funny too.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=931393

[Kahuna]

77. And let the record also show that YOU called me a name...

I never called you one.

[VelmaD]

89. Well...let's recap...

I told you that if you really did go around calling people names all the time...that you shouldn't be surprised if people called you a jerk. Not quite the same as flat out calling you a jerk. But I can do that if it'll make you feel more persecuted. :)

[Donailin]

127. Is this the

"I'm not crazy, it's everyone else" argument. ?

I'm just sayin'! :shrug:

[Bunny]

54. Now this is getting even funnier!

"Every name in the book"? Just what names have you been called? You haven't been called any name in the book, but keep telling yourself that...

[Kahuna]

69. Well your buddy called me a "jerk." What name did I call her?

You called me inconsiderate and rude? What did I call you? I don't know what your problem is that you would internalize a remark directed at someone who is not you. Since I'm not a psychologist, I can't begin to imagine. So I'll just leave that to the experts.

[Bunny]

76. Inconsiderate and rude are not "names".

They are adjectives. And boy oh boy, I must be incredible in my ability to resent name-calling aimed at an entire GENDER!!!

If I was black and you called some other black person an n-word, should I just ignore it? I mean, you didn't call ME that word, right? So, why should it bother me? You see, your argument falls apart real quick when you substitute any other group, doesn't it? But as you said, I'll leave your psyche to the experts.

[Kahuna]

81. Don't use the n-word cliche argument on a black person...

it's so absurd. You can't begin to know why. I'm black by the way. Another topic you might not want to lecture me on.

[Bunny]

83. Horseshit. You of all people should know better then.

Anything else you want to lecture me on, then?

[Kahuna]

90. You know what I know from being black and a woman? Listen up..

words don't mean shit!!! Actions matter. PERIOD!!! It's not what you say to me that can hurt me. It's what you can do to me that can hurt me. That was the very first lesson my mother taught me.

[VelmaD]

91. Bullshit...words shape how people think...

how we think shapes reality.

If words didn't mean shit...you wouldn't have gotten in my face about not calling you a "jerk" to your face.

[Kahuna]

94. In your world., Not mine. Can you just allow that everybody..

doesn't think like you. Or that everybody doesn't agree with you. Is that a possibility at all??? :shrug: Ya think?

[VelmaD]

104. Address my point...

if words don't mean shit...why the angry "you wouldn't say that to my face" response on your part?

[Kahuna]

107. .

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[VelmaD]

109. Yeah...actually I do know...

it's because words do matter and you got nothing to say.

[Bunny]

95. No, WORDS hurt as much, if not more, because they help to

promote the kind of climate where hurtful ACTIONS are condoned.

[Kahuna]

99. Whatever. In wuss-world maybe. I don't live in wuss-world.

nt

[Bunny]

106. Alright, how about this:

In DU-World, use of gender slurs in not permitted. You are free to call anyone anything you like IRL, but if you refer to women as bitches here, you will get called on it. And if you don't like those rules, you know who you need to talk to.

[geomon666]

6. This is why I don't watch this crap anymore.

I probably would've aged 15 years by now.

[Buns_of_Fire]

7. I think "Mark Williams" (if that's his real name)

REALLY needs a knuckle sandwich. Really. :mad:

[TomInTib]

9. I think that if you put duct tape over his mouth his head would

explode!

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. Lets try it and see.

:evilgrin:

[Mr_Spock]

11. That's what you get for watching that media whore

You get what you pay for :D

[Kahuna]

86. OOps! You said, media "whore." Femnist citizens arrest!!!!

:hi:

[Mr_Spock]

105. LOL - I saw your discussions above - they were predictable

Some people are so caught up on semantics that if you are a city person who grew up speaking slang (like I did), you can never even have a conversation with them. Oh, well, their loss...

[Kahuna]

112. There ya go!

:thumbsup:

[Bunny]

122. Oh, I'm just a little old country gal, sitting here absolutely

CRUSHED by my inability to have a conversation with the Almighty You! :cry:

Any clue how pompous your post sounds??? Or, is that just "city slang"? Anyway, enjoy the rarefied air up there in the "city"!!! :rofl:

[Mr_Spock]

125. I wasn't talking to you

Get over yourself "bunny" :rofl:

[Mr_Spock]

126. Please don't bring your personal fighting over here

I was careful NOT to violate any rules when posting - but I guess that got under your skin even more - lol

[VelmaD]

117. Yet again I invite you...

to read the DU rules which specifically mention "media whore" as a term that is allowed here.

[Kahuna]

118. Isn't "whore" gender specific?

nt

[VelmaD]

120. Well...

there have always been men who sold their bodies for sex...even if not as many as there were women who did it.

Granted, I personally am uncomfortable with calling anyone, especially a woman, a whore because it has often been used as a means of putting women in their place...but I understand why the exception was made for the more gender neutral "media whore".

[WiseButAngrySara]

14. Thanks! I thought I was going insane...I screamed at the TV, punched

the power off switch so hard I almost broke my thumb, and my poor dog is still cowering under the bed, even after coaxing! She thinks I'm mad at her. (She didn't stay there that long!)

Anti-war extremists! Does she bother to look at the polls? 60% plus support Cindy, and are opposed to the war. Does that make the majority of the US extremists? Only in this administration, and under Hitler.

[TruthIsAll]

24. But, but ...Nora is so cute. She's really OK, considering she's an NBCer.

She has done some good reporting in the past.

I admit, I have not seen this show.

I refuse to watch ANY of that TV crap.

[leftchick]

80. SHE IS NOT CUTE!!!

She looks like a fucking RW pitbull attack dog!

[Donailin]

84. I really used to repect her, but this episode of HB was so utterly

and blatantly biased, I could cry.

The polls say over 60 percent of america dissaproves of this war. But we're still an extremist group, a focus group. This proves to me that NBC is towing the part line. Watch, come next election in 06, every poll, exit or otherwise, is going to be dismissed as inaccurate. I expect it.

[yorkiemommie1]

31. email and complain

i do it all the time and i'm sure the other side peppers the media w/ complaints.

[Donailin]

113. I did.

I don't think it will help.

[ribrepin]

45. Every time she says chimp's name, she gets a glow

You can sure see why she's the White House correspondent.

I'll take tweety over this twit.

[sakabatou]

87. How come you never hear pro-war extremists?

[Donailin]

111. I did hear Pat Buchanan refer to the GOP as the War Party.

We should make that stick. GOP is the WAR PARTY.

[Jon8503]

97. I quit watching her after the other night. She is worse than Fox. N/T.

[Kahuna]

101. During FL recount 2000, she whined, "Why is Al Gore doing this?"

demanding recounts. I've hated her since that day.

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128. Locking

This thread has mostly turned into pointless arguments about the b-word.