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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:58 PM
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just a hunch, but BushCo may have blown their chance for a draft . . .
with support for the war at an all-time low and falling steadily, and with the knowledge that it was based entirely on lies spreading, I think that middle class America would explode in anger if BushCo tried to re-institute the draft . . . they should have acted earlier, when they still had the momentum . . . now, thanks largely to the rejuvenated anti-war movement for which Cindy Sheehan has become the catalyst, it's likely too late for them to act . . . if so, it may be her most important legacy . . .

and, if they can't do a draft, they will also find it next to impossible to invade Iran . . . they may still bomb, but they just won't have the foot soldiers to do what they've tried to do in Iraq . . .
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:03 AM
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1. He never really had the chance

That would have pulled the rug out even sooner.

It was easy for lots of people to turn their heads if some other 'volunteer' was getting killed or maimed.

If you and yours were forced into that quagmire it would give people a whole new perspective on the price to be paid and by whom.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:47 AM
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12. Agreed. Too many men that would have been drafted in 1973...
to be sent to die in the Vietnam war, had it not ended then, now have families with sons in the draftable age range for Bush's war on Iraq.

No way chicks**t George is going to get a draft up and running.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:03 AM
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13. I'm exactly there.....27 in that lottery and 16/17YO's that are
coming into that prime age.

It takes a lot of chutzpah to hide out in the TANG and avoid a conflict through connections...and then start a war that was entirely avoidable and send others to do what you wouldn't do yourself.

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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:50 AM
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14. I completely agree with the OP
they wasted too much time and now they aren't powerful enough to do what they want.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:04 AM
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2. I think they blew their chance at martial law as well.
Who would serve such a collection of clowns?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:06 AM
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5. I wouldn't count on that one.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:05 AM
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3. You never know
SEPTEMBER is around the corner,the big news month stay alert and lets one up on them in September "Paper Ballots Hand Counted in 06 will get the troops home real quick" campaign.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:06 AM
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4. Maybe they are scaling back and are setting up Venezuala. nt
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YusefHawkins Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:18 AM
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6. All Chicken George has to do to get a draft is...
allow another catastrophe to shake up the country. It would have to be big to drum up support. Clinton could never have gotten the support Chicken George has gotten. Clinton couldn't be tougher on terrorism as he was constantly defending himself from Lewinsky and wag the dog accusations. Even Chicken George couldn't have started a war without 9/11. I'm still not sure 9/11 wasn't this century's Pearl Harbor where Chicken George knew the attack was coming and allowed it to happen.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:42 AM
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11. Just keep remembering that no plane crashed into building #7 and
its not hard to see that this was almost certainly a set up.

Problem is that most decent people cant fathom that anyone could do something as evil as that, but how else to explain it?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:21 AM
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16. He knew it was coming.
What he may not have known, because the operation was totally on a 'need to know basis', is who was actually responsible for the devastation of that day. It isn't at all who they've led us to believe, of that I'm certain. They've lied about EVERYTHING. This pResidency is a complete and utterly treasonous hoax perpetrated against the American people.
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confuddled Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:19 AM
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7. They already have a draft.
They call it "stop loss". Tricky,huh?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:26 AM
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8. "middle class America would explode in anger"???
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 12:28 AM by TahitiNut
Nonsense. We'd roll over and play dead just like we did in December 2000 and over a dozen times since, as we're presented with outrage after outrage after outrage. This isn't the America I lived in in the 50's, 60's and 70's. This one doesn't "explode" or even go on strike. This one locks its doors and pulls its shades hoping the bogeyman will eat his neighbor instead of him. This is the America that thinks there's a reasonable chance of hitting the lottery, but the government won't pick them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:28 AM
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10. people are not as fat and comfortable as they were
in 2000...
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:27 AM
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9. The sad thing is if Cindy stopped WWIII we may never know it
of course the bright would be that she stopped WWIII.

But Bush isn't running for office again, so we have to count on Congress to stop a draft bill before it gets started.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:57 AM
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15. I still contend we are one terrorist attack away from a draft
MIHOP or LIHOP...the end results would be the same. :shrug:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:30 AM
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17. I fear you are right about that.
What could stop them? Have we educated enough people about the possibility? I don't care if people think I'm paranoid. Screw that. Why SHOULDN'T I be paranoid when an investigation into the "biggest attack ever on American soil" is first resisted and then white washed with a report that doesn't ask some of the most important questions?
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:03 AM
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18. This time, all we can do is to scream to this nation ...
"GO SLOW". We need to stop and appraise everything before we react. Going off half-cocked with half the answers will achieve nothing but grief. I actually believe our community may have developed a little credibility (I'm batting about .950, myself!) and we will have more say in these matters when it happens (and it will).

This nation need to slow down, sit down, and think about the unintended consequences of rash actions. Whole bunch of people need a whole lot of learning, and that is our job - they just may listen this time.
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