I had arson commited against my bedroom condo late at night..

[IChing]

I have posted here, and received many greatest posts (more than five many times) and really have never attacked anyone without logic and understanding.
So I will give you. that know me and my threads.
I posted in the lounge and got few responses by this community.
I go to court for the arraignment, of an alleged arsonist and I think attempted murderer to see if justice is served.

Here are my links on my story with photographs
and the next link in my reply to this site.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=3807271

orginal link with pictures


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=3881625

This is the story I am submitting to the court tomorrow and have talked to one member of the media tonight..

Monday, August 22, 2005


To all it may concern in regards to the ********r Case who resided at
****** Village Green, Santa Maria California, 93455

The above individual is allegedly charged with Arson and possession of firearm by a convicted felon. The damage the alleged defendant was to 4 structures including his own. I know that according to California law that aggravated arson is when an arsonist affects 5 structures.


I wonder, since this alleged crime took place in the early morning hours of August, 3rd while everyone was sleeping and may have been killed, that a charged of attempted murder in the second degree has not been charged to the defendant.

Neighbors have informed me that I may have saved their lives by helping alert the fire department of the fire. I myself am very lucky to be alive and luckily did not sleep well that night. 190.2. (a) The penalty for a defendant who is found guilty of
murder in the first degree is death or imprisonment in the state
prison for life without the possibility of parole if one or more of
the following special circumstances has been found under Section
190.4 to be true:
(1) The murder was intentional and carried out for financial gain.

(2) The defendant was convicted previously of murder in the first
or second degree. For the purpose of this paragraph, an offense
committed in another jurisdiction, which if committed in California
would be punishable as first or second degree murder, shall be deemed
murder in the first or second degree.
(3) The defendant, in this proceeding, has been convicted of more
than one offense of murder in the first or second degree.
(4) The murder was committed by means of a destructive device,
bomb, or explosive planted, hidden, or concealed in any place, area,
dwelling, building, or structure, and the defendant knew, or
reasonably should have known, that his or her act or acts would
create a great risk of death to one or more human beings.

189. All murder which is perpetrated by means of a destructive
device or explosive, a weapon of mass destruction, knowing use of
ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor, poison,
lying in wait, torture, or by any other kind of willful, deliberate,
and premeditated killing, or which is committed in the perpetration
of, or attempt to perpetrate ," arson," rape, carjacking, robbery,
burglary, mayhem, kidnapping, train wrecking, or any act punishable
under Section 206, 286, 288, 288a, or 289, or any murder which is
perpetrated by means of discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle,
intentionally at another person outside of the vehicle with the
intent to inflict death, is murder of the first degree. All other
kinds of murders are of the second degree.

As used in this section, "destructive device" means any
destructive device as defined in Section 12301, and "explosive" means
any explosive as defined in Section 12000 of the Health and Safety
Code.
As used in this section, "weapon of mass destruction" means any
item defined in Section 11417.
To prove the killing was "deliberate and premeditated," it shall
not be necessary to prove the defendant maturely and meaningfully
reflected upon the gravity of his or her act.


The fire was started next to my bedroom wall on the adjacent common wall.

1. The police or fire department interviewed no one in my building at anytime in an official capacity.

2. The victim crime unit had no record of any telephone numbers in that she could contact.

3. I was never asked for my phone number or statement and neither were any of my neighbors by official representatives of Santa Barbara County.

4. Why was the family allowed to move out personal property the following day out of the dwelling at 2496 Village Green the residence of Rocky Ginter if this was a crime scene?

5. The residents found it very alarming to see his truck the next two days parked in front of his garage, which was also released to the family. We did not know that it was not the defendant back again released on bail at that time.

6. If this was a crime scene and the defendant had a record of meth abuse why was this not investigated in his residence?

7. What happened to the propane tank, that was set just outside his front door? I believe that propane is used in meth manufacturing. Never mind the dangers of an explosion from the raging fire.

8. Is there a reason, that in the name of Justice, that many Santa Barbara officials and representatives of the Justice System should not recuse themselves from this case because of their personal relationship to the Ginters familys whose relationship and employment is in the criminal justice system of Santa Maria?

9. I personally have been affected with at least over $10,000 of incurred present and future losses whereas I have provided in the accompanying paper. These costs are very minimal to say the least.

my letter tomorrow with a little shaping up in the morning.

Thank you for your political concern
IChing

[IChing]

1. So I guess this gets no reply

[Hawkeye-X]

4. Wow..

I mean.. wow.. just saw all 3.. I mean, wow. Maybe after all this is over and Rocky's in prison for a long time, maybe you should seriously consider filing a lawsuit against the Santa Barbara County for incompetence. If they had interviewed you, they would have realized that Mr. Glinter would have sustained additional charge and his father/brother should be considered suspect in covering up the truth.

Good luck there, brother. Hopefully you'll get your life back together (and wondered why you'd leave Colorado in the first place)

Hawkeye-X

[evlbstrd]

5. Press your case.

I also read your initial posts and saw the photos. You narrowly escaped with your life, and lost your home and possessions.
I know you feel horrible, harmed and now must face the court system.
You'll get more support if you avoid the pity post.

[IChing]

7. It's not pity but attempted murder in the first.

I love posting at Du but this has sure cut out my involvement.

I only got 12 responses so I thought more of my friends at DU, if I have any
would like to see this since they know I haven't written in a while
I think this is not just an asshole

I risk a lot bringing the truth to justice.


We all know that

[evlbstrd]

9. I didn't mean to insult you.

I understand the gravity of your situation.
But your second post in this thread was the pity part I was referring to.
Lots of people tell distressing stories here. They don't all get huge counts. Please don't hold that against us.
I hope that this killer gets justice. And I hope you do, too.
Peace.

[aquart]

2. Finally, a use for arthritis.

Who knew it could save your life?

Good luck tomorrow.

[Whoa_Nelly]

3. Good Luck, IChing

Hope at the very least, resitution is made in your favor.

You did well to help others in alerting them about the fire.

What an asshole...what a fucking creep...to set fire in an apartment building. I hope there is conviction that is at least an attempt at murder. Many could have died, or suffered even more greatly, had you and your neighbor not started knocking on doors.

[Rich Hunt]

6. sorry to hear that

Glad to hear that you and your dog are okay.

May justice be done to the perpetrator - good luck. I know how hard it is to put the bad guys away!

It's late at night - maybe that's why you haven't seen more responses?

Take care!

[yewberry]

8. I missed the earlier threads on this.

Took a little time to read the links.

Holy cow. What a month you've had.

I'd be concerned, were I you, especially that the individual who set this fire has a personal relationship with local police. Have you spoken to the DA about your concerns?

And was the person cooking meth in there, or just a user? Wouldn't that almost necessitate interviews with neighbors by investigators?

Wow. I'm so glad to hear that you and your furry friend are getting closer to a normal life. What a mess.

I'm sorry for your trouble, IChing.

[IChing]

10. To me just a cosmic wake up call

I 'm pissed now and since
my home will not be fix and I have to move out.

I WILL GO TO DC

I WILL GO TO DC


I WILL GO TO DC


to see my mother's grave at Arlington that I never saw and

Protest this violence against humanity.

[yewberry]

12. Not such a bad idea.

It sounds like you could use something to focus on that is outside the realm of your very-close-to-home problems right now...It can be frustrating to simply wait for things to happen, you know?


When is the court going to get this addressed?
When will the insurance company come through?
When is my place going to be fixed?
When will my home feel safe again (if ever?)
When will this all be over?

These are things that you can't make happen, as much as you may want to. Having something else to plan for (especially something with a fixed date and a positive direction) may be really good for you.

Good luck, friend.

[NYC]

11. I'm glad you and your dog were not injured.

I hadn't known about this before, and just read your other 2 threads. Frightening incident.

I agree with you that the arsonist endangered lives. It seems very strange to me that the Fire Dept. would allow people to move possessions out of that apartment before their arson investigation was complete.

You said: "The above individual is allegedly charged with Arson and possession of firearm by a convicted felon."

Is it possible he was not charged with arson? Is it possible there was no arson investigation?

I was unable to read the message he had written on the door.

Best of luck to you and your dog. I'm glad you are back in your own apartment, even if it is just temporary.

[IChing]

13. Thanks

I have considered moving out of this country
and now

It is a real option
since, I am forced to by a relative and
members of
a police department.

I was offered a place to teach in Europe

but god I love this country.

[NYC]

14. I assume your arsonist neighbor is permanently gone.

I know this sort of thing happens, but it is relatively rare. Your new neighbor should be normal, statistically.

Buy a smoke alarm so you can sleep in peace.

Keep after the Fire Dept. The arsonist's relatives were in the Police Dept. Arson should be investigated by the Fire Dept.

If you want to stay here, stay. It was a terrible incident, but is not likely to be repeated.

Let us know what happens in court.

[unhappycamper]

23. "but god I love this country"

I saw your earlier post in the lounge, but did not post because I was at a loss for words. Your phrase "but god I love this country" pretty much sums up who you are and what you stand for - a Patriot on the front lines.

Whatever path you decide to take, please please please stay a part of this community. Your viewpoints, stories, and experiences are needed here. We, the people, should not remain silent and let these atrocities passed unnoticed. Your personal Krystal Nacht is part of our collective memory.

Peace.

[nofurylike]

15. i'm glad you're okay, IChing. best of luck in court! and in DC! eom

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Best of luck and I hope you do get justice out of this one

You have all of us behind you in spirit

[KT2000]

17. That's awful

and I'm sorry this has happened to you. This idiot should not live near anyone. I hope you find some justice.

[radwriter0555]

18. Justice from a nutter? Why bother. Hope you have a good insurance policy

since that should cover everything.

[that girl again]

19. It's really too bad this happened

But personally, I don't see why you need to make incendiary remarks about people with mental illness in order to be comforting. This entire thread has been rife with references to "disturbed" people and "nutters".

Just because someone behaves in a way that doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean they are mentally ill. It just means their behavior doesn't make sense. And just because someone uses meth (which, by the way, is not the only reason someone could have propane in their house -- we had a tank in our house for a year because it went with our grill and we didn't want the neighbors to steal it, not to make meth) doesn't make them "disturbed" or mentally ill. The term you want is "high" or "engaging in criminal behavior."

People with major mental disorders like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and major depression are much LESS likely to commit violent crimes than people who are "normal." When mentally ill people do commit crimes, they tend to be status crimes like loitering or trespassing. Violence committed by the mentally ill is rarely directed at random targets -- it's almost always family members, friends, or someone the person has had conflict with before. Far more often, the mentally ill are victims of crime.

It is SO hard to go through life with a mental illness. On top of being scared, confused, and unhappy, it's difficult to work, and the medicines that are supposed to make you "better" have miserable side effect profiles. How would you feel if you had to choose between constantly hearing voices and taking a drug that would give you Parkinson's Disease? Add to that the massive ignorance and prejudice about mental illness that leads even supposedly liberal people to assume you're responsible for every disturbance and crime in the neighborhood. Nobody chooses to be mentally ill -- they do the best they can to cope with it. They deserve our respect and compassion.

[IChing]

22. Thank you miss 7 threads

I taught special ed
where the fuck was the family
that knew the problems of the child more than any?

How dare you address it to me and not even what you were addressing to the envelopment of society. I have worked half my life in this trade, should the family know better on their observations of the development of their son? And give him next to my house?



How dare you even infer I do not know what I have suffered or others
Can you see the pain of the families of IRAQ?
I have worked in institutions

And have taught from

k-12

It is a reflection
on the logic
of real teaching
and information without denial

But Justice is Justice
so Fuck your shit.
I do not want vengeance
I want justice

I ALWAYS I WAnt the truth.

you did not give me a truth, except that the US is on mental illness

[that girl again]

27. I don't even understand what your response means

I tried and tried to think of an appropriate response here and I just don't think there's anything I can say that you won't misinterpret as a personal attack, rather than a plea for tolerance.

I hope that you are able to resolve your situation and find peace.

[IChing]

21. Give me a break. State farm in the state of flordia said what?

They will not reimburse people for the hurricane without the whole state
paying the cost of it. I loss my medical insurance because of risks

Nationalized health insurance doesgive me at a livable age and income

I am old but wise

to the

growth of corporate

lies.

And NO state farm will not pay for for me another place to live
while I make payments on the place I OWN

so onward to

DC

[Mairead]

20. I'm glad everyone--human and non--escaped unharmed in body.

It's scary to think how big a tragedy it might have been.

I think a good case can be made that people who abuse drugs of various kinds were not well-balanced to begin with. This episode seems like evidence for that.

Talk to a connected lawyer, possibly even the ACLU. See whether they can get an attempted murder charge inserted.

[Hekate]

24. Yikes -- that was you?! How frightening

I read about it in the SB News-Press -- IIRC the arsonist did it out of some twisted sense of revenge? The fact that meth may be tangled up in this as well is just an added layer of horror.

Do you (or, you and your neighbors in the condo) have a lawyer of your own?

You do need a little help (for clarity) with the "allegedlys" and such in your letter: allegedly means he may or may not be something, that is, he allegedly committed the crime, but he is the (just plain) defendent. And with your $10,000 of expenses, you could say that you "personally have incurred over $10,000 in costs including damages, and expect that amount to rise, as it is only the beginning. See itemized attachment."

I'm sure you'v already seen your insurance claims adjustor and have been told to keep all your receipts related to repairs, medical treatments, and so on.

Good luck -- I hope you see justice done.

Hekate

[area51]

25. How horrible.

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hadn't seen the earlier threads.

[Kindigger]

26. I'm sorry for your loss

I understand your grief, and the feeling you're in limbo right now. During the flood of '93 I waited each day for the forecast of rain, as everything I owned slowly went under water, knowing there was no way to get it out of the house....antiques, photo albums, childhood memories.
At the time I wondered if the agony were any less if it had all just went in the blink of an eye.

It took a long time to start again. To this day, what is most special to me is in a single 30 gallon, plastic container. It's kept where I can easily grab it, and run.

I'll admit I can't fathom the additional grief of being the victim of crime, but I agree with a previous poster...set your mind on a short term goal, and refocus your emotions.

Good luck and hugs to you,
Susan