Are Americans Pathetic or What?

[mopaul]

5 years with a dangerous maniac at the helm and no signs of impeachment or revolution on the horizon at all. we should all be ashamed of ourselves the way we've let this tiny band of psychopaths fuck up the world.

[xchrom]

1. i'ld disagree

if you weren't right.

[Catholic Sensation]

2. because we all know that revolutions always end well

Like Lenin's Bolshevik Revolution really improved Russia, and Mao's revolution made the lives of the Chinese so much better.

[mopaul]

3. wasn't there also an american revolution?

[Kire]

5. if it ends with bush

it didn't end well

[xchrom]

11. ghandi was a revolutionary and so was mandela.

susan b. anthony was a revolutionary.

so was voltaire.

there have been many successful revolutionaries.

[KG]

13. looks like the french revolution worked out ok, too.

[raccoon]

23. there was, but I don't think (and I'm not alone) it should be

called a revolution. It was a war for independence. It didn't change the social order the way the French or Russian revolution did. Rich white men were still in charge.

[mopaul]

7. how did 'Revolution' become a dirty word?

without revolution, THERE WOULDN'T BE AN AMERICA

[KG]

14. it's a dirty word to those with small minds and limited vision

[melody]

19. cons have always been against revolutions...they were Tories

"You cool, conservative men hang to the rear on every issue, so if we go under, you'll still remain afloat." John Adams (liberal) :-)

[Kire]

4. why do you hate our freedoms?

[radwriter0555]

6. well, that's like blaming the germans for hitler. problem is these morans

were too stupid to learn the lessons of hitler.

[mopaul]

8. i've studied hitler for years

that's why i'm somewhat concerned and frightened

[Karenina]

9. The German people

have taken responsibility for their history which puts them head and shoulders above Americans (who to this day have the unmitigated gall to wag fingers in others' faces).

The GOOD NEWS is the "hard core stupid" are down to 36%! :bounce:

[mopaul]

10. yes, w's ratings are in the shit can

reason for worry

[lovelaureng]

12. I agree 110% with you.

What is the real solution to this problem? Don't say that the Democrats will save us because they're not going to unfortunately. They have no real leadership that has stepped up to the plate, that has been accepted by the country at large. We saw what happened to Howard Dean for showing a little fiery passion at a rally. John Kerry did not really step up at all. When he did, it was too little too late.
I don't know if the Democratic party can frame Hilary Clinton in a nice, neat little package and sell her to the American people. I do think obviously she will run. I don't think that our country is ready for a female president, let alone her being the person for the job.

[melody]

15. we don't inhabit our country as others do theirs

Sociologists have been discussing this a lot lately - Americans don't perceive their country as a "safe place" to protest, as others do theirs. We mainly see ourselves as hiding from the government (probably a psychosocial thing handed down). We aren't indigenous to the country and we're all brought up with that "love it or leave it", conditional psychology that strongly suggests "they" could toss us out whenever they please. We don't have a sense of "nationality", in other words, to quote Dr. Maria Soren.

Other nations have similar but different plights. That is ours. Every nation has its own weaknesses and strengths.

[mopaul]

16. there's a few hundred of them, and hundreds of millions of us

so it's silly to fear them.

[melody]

17. definitely, however

We reportedly rarely see ourselves as part of "several million", but one person against a greater government.

Also, reason has very little to do with the decisions of the human animal. lol

[The2ndWheel]

18. Yeah, but

they have DARPA.

[Deja Q]

20. And the DARPANETs, woo-hoo!

:D

[BiggJawn]

21. Well, at least 51% of us are pretty pathetic.

I'm going to be very interested in how the Liberal ReTHUGlican Evan Bayh polls in a few years.

As long as the DLC thinks the way back to the top is to be indistinguishable from the ReTHUGS, we're fucked.

[mopaul]

22. & we'll most likely let pat robertson slide, cause he shares our religion