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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:04 AM
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The Economic Case for Progressive Income Tax
August 23rd, 2005
There has been a recent movement towards a “fair tax” initiative. Though there are different variations of how this is to be implemented what is typically said is that there will be a constant consumption tax attached to most goods. The value of this tax is typically a number that is less that the marginal tax rate that individual’s face. While I question why they got to the numbers they are using I am going to ignore that and provide a general argument showing the strengths of Progressive taxation from an economic standpoint. Such a system has several advantages over a flat consumption tax. Progressive taxation system can better avoid taxing the basics necessary for survival. Through a Progressive taxation the government is also able to reward behavior that benefits society. The barriers to trade that are present among high income earners with a higher rate of taxation are less then that of a low income earner. Progressive taxation may also allow the pursuit of equality in an efficient way.

Under a flat tax goods can be considered a necessity or a luxury. There are goods that can be considered both. Electricity and food are both necessities when consumed in moderation. When the cost of the item of food increases, such as the case with caviar, food then becomes a luxury. Electricity is also considered to be a necessity, however as use increases it starts to be used to power luxuries and can no longer be considered a necessity. Housing and clothing are also both goods that can be considered both luxuries and necessities. Under a consumption tax these goods would prove difficult to tax as it is unclear when they become luxuries. A family of five would require a larger, and by extension, a more expensive house then a family of three. How would you account for these differences? A progressive income tax makes this really easy; account for the necessities and the number of children by allowing deductions for these situations. The flat tax, which many people claim would be simpler, would not solve this problem without being excessively complicated.

Progressive taxation allows people to write-offs part of their taxes when they do things that benefit society. While this can be done through other institutions and other processes it is much less complicated to have it done through one process allowing a more cost effective delivery of the subsidy. People may be better able to understand what incentives are available if they are mostly done through one institution. This helps reduce the cost and allow people to take advantage of the incentive available increasing the overall incentive for people to help make society better off.

Another major advantage of progressive taxation is that there are fewer losses due trade as a high income earner is usually more specialized and will keep trading as apposed to doing things for ones self. Higher income earners typically aren’t going to attempt tasks such as renovations or cutting their grass themselves. Because of the financial situation they will hire someone to do it for them. It would take a very high tax rate to get these people to do these things themselves. People working at a lower income job are more likely to venture into areas that they are not specialized if the tax rates get higher. As a result when the tax rate for a low income earner is lower there will be specialization gains while the losses due to specialization in the high income earners will be less because the high income earner will be more likely to stay specialized even with higher taxes. It is important to keep in mind that a progressive tax rate still has the other disincentives that any tax has and there are still long term consequences to excessive taxation.
Another advantage of progressive taxation is that it may provide a way to pursue equality in an efficient way. Especially when a nation has low or reasonable taxes small increases in the tax rate for higher income earners may be a better policy for pursuing equality then other methods typically used. Instead of developing regulatory policies that get equality but at a high cost to growth, such as excessive wage controls, it may be better to accept some inequality in wages while having a more efficient regulatory system and combine this with progressive taxation to make the system more equal at a lower cost. This is a way that the government can work to maximize growth with respect to equality and vise versa. The advantage of maximizing equality and growth is that no one is being made worse of unnecessarily.

The benefits that are attributed to a flat consumption tax may not be as large as what is claimed. Various assumptions are made with respect to the cost of tax fraud, administration, and other costs under such a system. These costs may be higher then estimated. The loss of control over the design of the tax system, and the ability to tax demographics at a different rate may make it so that the government is less able to respond to future issues. Because of this and the various benefits that a progressive tax system offers to society it may be better to either leave the system as it is or make the necessary reforms while keeping a similar progressive structure.

source: http://possiblylogical.com/blog/
Author: me
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:06 AM
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1. Thanks for this. There is also a Biblical case for it if
you run into fundagelicals who need that sort of info.

"Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a fraction of a penny. Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, 'I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others.'" (Mark 12:41-43)
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:19 AM
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4. Charity is not the same as taxation.
They accomplish different things.

Never the less it does has an important message.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:37 AM
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7. I agree, however Jesus also said to render unto Caesar what
is Caesar's. I also think if He were here today he would promote the prgoressive tax.

Here is a list of sites which talk more about this: http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/liberalchristians.htm#poor
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:08 PM
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8. If I'm not mistaken isn't there also something about tax collectors being
evil. I have to find it but I do recall something such as that being said.


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:27 PM
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9. Not from Jesus. He ate with them. However Jewish law considered
tax collectors "unclean". (If I understand it correctly, clean and unclean is a bit more like a caste system rather than just about good and evil.)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:15 AM
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2. Progressive income tax works best when ALL citizens pay....
...their share and the so called "... write-offs part of their taxes when they do things that benefit society" are carefully monitored and appropriated where needed most, not just where the wealthy think they will benefit the most. Otherwise, the wealthy should pay their progressive incremental share.
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:01 PM
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13. agreed
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:15 AM
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3. Conventional (Keynesian) wisdom: marginal utility
I'm not sure you mentioned the standard explanation for why progressive taxation is more fair -- the marginal utility explanation.

A person who enjoys an income of $100,000 per year will value his last dollar less highly than a person who earns $10,000 per year.

Therefore, although nominally to each, the last dollar is a dollar, they have very different utilities. Therefore to impose on each the same disutility, we should take more dollars from the higher earner than from the lower earner.

I think your essay was more about the benefits of an income tax over a consumption tax, which is a slightly different issue. Currently we have an income tax that is no longer (or barely) progressive.

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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:31 AM
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6. "Fair" is clearly a subjective word.
I do know of decreasing marginal utility and chose not to include it.

I personally don't believe that taxation should be done based on the utility a person gains from spending money but it is something to keep in mind for establishing a criteria for fair. I personally believe that core necessities should not be taxed and as an individual pursue thing that are less necessary they should be taxed at a higher rate.

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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:24 AM
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5. A retail sales tax is a pretty poor idea. But....
The problem with a retail tax is that it largely hits people who consume a large proportion of their earnings. There also are large problems with an income tax. It has a high overhead. It mostly functions as a tax on labor. It is invasive into our personal lives. (How many people would even calculate their income, if this weren't required by the tax code?)

In thinking about tax reform, it's important not to get bogged down too early, to a just a few alternatives. How about a transaction tax? No, not a retail tax, but a genuine tax on almost every economic transaction. On an equal revenue basis, the rate could be fairly low, maybe 2% to 3%. But it would apply to a broad host of things exempted from both the retail (sales) tax and the income tax, and would hit the large transactions executed by corporations and rich individuals that now are completely free from taxation. Real estate sales or rental. Stock or derivative transactions. Interest payments. (As a percent of the interest, not the principal, i.e., if you have a bond paying 4% interest, 3% of that, or .12% of the principal, goes to the government.) Business to business sales. Stock options. Etc.
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:13 PM
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10. A transaction tax is not that much different from a sales tax,. Except for
that it adds a few extra items that can be taxed. When you tax based on the transaction it also hurts small businesses that specialize in a specific are. It also causes monopolization and vertical integration of companies.

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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:55 PM
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11. Adding those extra items can make a big difference in WHO is taxed.
The rich as well as the poor engage in economic transactions. Right now, many of those transactions go completely untaxed, because they are not retail sales. Expanding the tax base also has a large effect on the rate. A 2% to 3% transaction tax should be adequate to replace the income tax. Real estate, stocks, and other financial instruments may not be a large list of categories, but they are large dollar transactions compared to clothing, food, electronics, hardware, etc.

'Tis true that a transaction tax encourages vertical integration, since that obviously eliminates the boundary at which wholesale purchases otherwise would be taxed. The extent of that depends greatly on the rate.
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:01 PM
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12. Investment income should be covered by income tax.
Regardless even at a 3% tax rate it would still give big companies a massive advantage and encourage even more monopolization.

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