OMG...Look At The Violence in Iraq Today! Is it Tet Yet??

[leftchick]

I mean look at this horror! 1871 US DEAD! 74 in 23 days of August. Is it Tet Yet???.... :(

http://icasualties.org/oif/


08/23/05 IBS: Elk Grove Soldier Killed In Iraq
Family members said they were notified Sunday that 22-year-old Joe Nurre had been killed Sunday after his vehicle struck a roadside bomb near Tikrit, while two others died when their vehicle overturned at Tal Afar.

08/23/05 AP: GI, Six Others Killed In Iraq Blast
A U.S. soldier, an American contractor and five Iraqis were killed Tuesday when a suicide bomber detonated an explosive device in Diyala Provincial Joint Coordination Center in Baquba. Nine U.S. soldiers were wounded, along with one U.S. civilian...

08/23/05 Union-Tribune: Another Policeman Killed in Baquba
One policeman was killed when gunmen burst into his house in the Yarmouk district of Baquba, 65 km (40 miles) northeast of Baghdad, a relative of the policeman said.

08/23/05 Union-Tribune: Baiji to Baghdad Pipeline Bombed
An energy pipeline from Baiji refinery to Baghdad was blown up at dawn in Isshaaqi town, 30 km (20 miles) north of Balad, a source at the Baiji refinery said.

08/23/05 CENTCOM: MARINE KILLED BY AN IED NEAR AL KARMAH
A Marine assigned to Regimental Combat Team-8, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), was killed in action Aug. 21st by an improvised explosive device. The incident took place during combat operations near Al Karmah.

08/23/05 Xinhuanet: Gunmen attack senior Iraqi official in western Baghdad
"A group of gunmen attacked the convoy of the under secretary of the Ministry of Justice in al-Quzat district in western Baghdad at about 4:00 p.m. (1200 GMT), wounding three of his bodyguards and acivilian." The senior official was not in the convoy.

08/23/05 CENTCOM: MARINE KILLED BY AN IED NEAR FALLUJAH (confirmed)
A Marine assigned to Regimental Combat Team-8, 2nd Marine Division, II MEF (Forward), was killed in action Aug. 22 when the vehicle he was in was struck by an improvised explosive device. The incident took place during combat operations near Fallujah.

08/23/05 Anatolia: Three US troops killed in Iraq
Two US marines and a US soldier were killed in separate attacks over the past three days in Iraq, the US military announced Tuesday.

08/23/05 AFP: Sectarian Violence Kills Two
In Tikrit a businessman was shot dead by gunmen, police said. Zaiki Ibrahim, a former general in Saddam's army, was killed by rebels Tuesday in the southern city of Basra after he was kidnapped three days ago.

08/23/05 AFP: Eleven Policemen Killed in Mortar Attack in Baquba
Eleven policemen were killed and 15 others were wounded, including a child, when the police station in the restive town of Baquba was hit by mortar bombs, a police officer said.

08/23/05 AP: Soldier from Michigan killed in Iraq
Staff Sgt. Brian Lee Morris, 38, of Centreville, was driving a fuel truck when it hit a large hole and overturned, pinning him inside, his mother, Leslie Morris, said Tuesday.

08/23/05 KUNA (cont.) Five Iraqi policemen killed
A police statement said bodies of two officers kidnapped since Monday were discovered in al Wihda town in Mosul. A police statement in Najaf said two policemen were killed earlier today while underoing a search operation north of the city.

08/23/05 KUNA: Five Iraqi policemen killed
Five Iraqi policemen, including two officers, were reported killed on Tuesday and a booby-trapped car blew up in western Iraqi city of Ramadi. A third policeman was killed when a road- side bomb went off near an Iraqi police patrol north of Mosul

08/23/05 AP: (Afghanistan) Fla. Judge Injured In Bomb Attack In Kabul
Brig. Gen. T. Patt Maney, a county judge in the 1st Judicial Circuit in Florida's Panhandle, sustained head, neck and back injuries but was expected to return to duty Tuesday, said his wife, Caroline.

08/23/05 CENTCOM: TASK FORCE BAGHDAD SOLDIER KILLED IN ATTACK (confirmed)
A Task Force Baghdad Soldier died during a rocket attack by anti-Iraqi forces in south Baghdad at around 6:20 p.m. Aug 22.

08/23/05 Gannett: Isle soldiers die in La
Maj. Marino G. David, a member of the 9th Regional Readiness Command headquarters at Fort Shafter, was reported missing around 1 p.m. Saturday during a land navigation exercise. He was found unconscious about three hours later, then died later.

08/23/05 York Dispatch: Healing time for injured soldier
Sgt. Timothy Breen had a broken jaw, crushed teeth and shrapnel wounds in his face arms and chest when his Pennsylvania National Guard convoy was attacked Aug. 9 in Iraq Also wounded in the same attack was Sgt. Daniel South.

08/23/05 AFP: Two US troops killed in Iraq
A US marine and a soldier were killed in separate attacks in Iraq on Monday, the US military announced Tuesday. The marine was killed when his vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb during a combat operation near the former rebel bastion town of Fallujah

08/23/05 NewsTribune: Commander returns home with injured legs, arm
Army Lt. Col. Erik Kurilla arrived at Madigan Army Medical Center late Monday for treatment of wounds he suffered Friday in a firefight in Mosul. The commander of the 1st Bat., 24th Inf., Reg., was shot in the arm and leg and suffered a broken leg.

08/23/05 Pravda: Iraqi Minister attacked in Baghdad is safe
Iraq's Environment Minister Narmin Othman was attack Monday near the town of Adhaim north of Baghdad, said police Brig. Gen. Sarhad Qader. Three of her bodyguards were wounded and some of the attackers were believed to have been killed.

08/23/05 Reuters: Triple car bombs target U.S. troops in west Iraq
Three car bombs exploded in quick succession near U.S. forces in Ramadi, west of Baghdad, on Tuesday in an apparently coordinated strike by insurgents, police and witnesses said.
08/23/05 DoD Identifies Army Casualty

Sgt. Willard T. Partridge, 35, of Ferriday, La., died on August 20 in Baghdad, Iraq, when an IED detonated near his vehicle. Partridge was assigned to the 170th Military Police Company, 504th Military Police Battalion, 42nd Military Police Brigade.

08/23/05 Reuters: Iraq assembly gets charter draft, Sunnis upset
Iraq's Shi'ite-led government ruled out major concessions on Tuesday over a draft constitution that parliament looks set to pass this week in the teeth of minority Sunni objections that it could ignite civil war

08/23/05 Reuters: U.S. Soldier Killed in Baghdad Rocket Attack
A U.S. soldier was killed in a rocket attack in southern Baghdad late on Monday afternoon, the U.S. military said in a statement.


This one in particular scares me ...

Triple car bombs target U.S. troops in west Iraq
Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:27 AM BST
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RAMADI, Iraq (Reuters) - Three car bombs exploded in quick succession near U.S. forces in Ramadi, west of Baghdad, on Tuesday in an apparently coordinated strike by insurgents, police and witnesses said.

In the first blast, a car blew up as a U.S. convoy was passing through the centre of the Sunni Arab city, police said. One U.S. army vehicle was damaged in the explosion and three Iraqi bystanders were wounded, the police said.

It was not clear if any U.S. troops were wounded or killed in the attack, which came hours after Sunni Arab leaders warned of violence after the Shi'ite and Kurdish-dominated parliament was presented with a draft constitution Sunnis objected to.

The U.S. Marines in Ramadi did not immediately reply to a request for information.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&summit=&storyid=2005-08-23T102655Z_01_KNE337593_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ-RAMADI.xml

[LeftCoast]

1. I've heard several reports that the insurgency will kick into high gear

after the constitution is submitted...if that's true we should see the results soon. At least the US *FINALLY* seems to be waking up to the idiocy of this war.

[fishnfla]

17. Clearly the violence will escuilate if the Sunnis do not get their way

The question is, will is tamper down if they do get what they want?

[LeftCoast]

29. I hate to be such a pessimist, but I think this Constitution will do

nothing but lead straight to civil war. Of course, that assumes they aren't already in a civil war. In any case I doubt it will do anything to calm down the violence.

[leftchick]

30. two words

no way. I believe the reports that say this "insurgency" is made up of many different factions with different desires. The Sunnis are just one faction.

Also it is too simplistic as the news reports say that this is a Sunni-Shiia problem. There are divisions within both the Shiites and the Sunnis themselves over this fraud of a constitution. The fact that the US is pushing for a deadline is exacerbating the problem as well.

It is fucked and the US needs to get out.

[Straight Shooter]

2. Good Lord! I thought I'd never finish reading the list.

Ask most Americans how many troops have died, they'd probably say, oh, about 1500 or 1600.

One thousand eight hundred seventy one DEAD. The numbers per day are increasing. So much for "last throes." It's over. We've lost.

[Javaman]

21. For a solid point I usually say, close to 16,000 killed or wounded...

That usually gets people to listen.

[Spazito]

3. Geez! Paul Krugman, when he was on The Daily Show, said

there was going to be a Tet-like offensive very soon and it sure looks like he was right.

[leftchick]

5. I think it was Sy Hersh

perhaps they both did. Anyway I think it only makes sense that it would happen soon.

[Spazito]

9. Oops, you are right, it was Sy Hersh, thanks for correcting me

Mr. Hersh deserves to be credited for publicizing this for sure.

[leftchick]

11. I really don't like correcting people for anything

but I do remember Sy saying he got this information from his insiders at the CIA.

:hi:

[Spazito]

15. I truly appreciated your correction, no offense taken here at all!

[whatever4]

18. Yeah, I saw that too, took note of what he said

He said the lull was indicating more attacks coming. I bet he hates it when he's right.

I can't believe how many have died just today.

I hate this god damned war.

[w8liftinglady]

4. It kills me to turn on the news-

and yet-it's hard not to try and prepare for the worst.I hate this war.

[Spazito]

19. w8liftinglady, when I see your user name, I think of your child

and my hope and prayers go with you that he comes home safe and comes home soon.

[w8liftinglady]

23. Thanks -It means a lot to hear that:)

:hug:

[indepat]

6. The insurgency is clearly in its last throes

[Ganja Ninja]

32. At the rate these last throes are coming this war should ...

be over in no time.:sarcasm:

[Kipling]

7. Not even close.

Some months in Vietnam the kill rate was four or five times that. Serious guerilla fighting has yet to break out. Which does not mean it won't. What we're seeing here is insurgency and sabotage. War is still a step away. In Iraq, with it's sympathetic public and capacity for brutal urban warfare, it would be a disaster beyond belief.

[patrice]

8. Thanks Very Much! I'm forwarding this widely.

Solidarity!
jpcl

[Missy M]

10. Its only just begun and we ain't seen nothin yet, in my opinion.

[leftchick]

13. mine too...

Bring Em Home! :(

[Missy M]

16. My thoughts too, every day, are bring them home PLEASE!

[smoogatz]

12. Are they greeting us as liberators yet?

Ya know, considering how wrong Dub an' Dick were about Iraq, it's incredible that they were reelected.

Oh yeah. They weren't.

[Jacobin]

14. Ollie North says its just because they are 'desperate'

:eyes:

[StayOutTheBushes]

20. Losses during Tet Offensive

Country/Force Killed Wounded Missing
US, Korea, Australia 1,536 7,764 11
South Viet Nam 2,788 8,299 587
North Viet Nam and Viet Cong 45,000 not known not known
Civilian 14,000 24,000 630,000 homeless

[Blue_In_AK]

36. Last night I caught just a little bit of a military channel

doc on Khe Sanh in 1968 (my husband likes to watch the military channel, don't ask me why), but I watched it because I knew someone back in 1970 who had been stationed at Khe Sanh. I met him afterwards when he was anti-war and a junkie, a habit he picked up while in Vietnam, and watching this documentary, I could understand why. The seige of Khe Sanh was horrible beyond belief -- not to minimize the atrocities in Iraq in any way, but I don't know if these comparisons are useful. What did occur to me though is that watching the military channel has maybe the opposite effect of what they intend -- if you weren't anti-war before watching one of these programs, it seems you certainly would be afterwards. All of that destruction and death -- and for what? Millions of people died in Vietnam. I read that if America had had comparable losses to the Vietnamese, we would have had to sacrifice 28 million American lives. That's just obscene.

The important thing is that we need to get out of Iraq NOW, before any more American lives are lost.

[sniffa]

22. this is just the LiberaL media

they don't want to teLL you about the schooL that was buiLt (that no one can attend without dying or being maimed) and the power pLant that was created (and onLy works up to 3 hours a day).

[Horse with no Name]

26. Don't forget the soccer balls

You know, that if a child were playing with one on the side of the street he would be blown to smithereens, shot or taken to Abu Ghraib.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

24. holy FUCK

.

[gulfcoastliberal]

25. Operation Ignore in full effect

Media blacks out as much as they can, don't they?

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. You must have no idea what the Tet Offensive of 1968 was like

to even make that comparison. Look up some history.

[sniffa]

31. you must have no tact

Look up some manners.

[alcibiades_mystery]

33. Oh pardon me

Your majesty...:eyes:

[sniffa]

34. Lame

:eyes:

[alcibiades_mystery]

37. Nobody asked for an autobiography, sniffa

:toast:

[xray s]

28. ...and they're still "bringing it on"

:(

[pointblank]

35. Important Question

I read in an earlier post that the total dead 1821 (sorry if I am off) is not accurate.

Someone said that it is MUCH higher, like around 10-15 thousand, but the media doesn't count the troops who hace died in the hospital from injuries.

Is this true? Any links?

If so, word HAS to get out that the number is much higher!

[PurityOfEssence]

38. 1872 at the moment

Try this link

www.icasualties.org

[alcibiades_mystery]

39. No, it's not true

This is a deeply stupid and easily debunked rumor that for some reason seems to pop up on these boards time and again. The current death count of 1872 includes dozens, if not hundreds, of troops who died in hospital in Germany and the United States as a result of action in Iraq.

What you heard is false.