Let's look at Dean's stance on elder care in 2001, revisited.

[madfloridian]

Will Pitt is right. We do need to revisit and repost things of importance about our candidates.

These were posted the other day, but they did not get much attention over all. Here are two links to Howard Dean's report before the Senate Special Committee on Aging. If they do nothing else, they show a man who is putting forth definitive ideas. They show a doctor who knows the elderly and cares for them. I find it hard to believe after reading these that he would allow things to happen to hurt them.
I do believe the Bush administration would allow and in fact do pursue things to hurt the elderly population.

I am quite sure that someone will yell, but that is not what he said in 95. This was in 2001. I like his ideas. They are well-thought-out, and they are good.
http://www.ohiosilc.org/il/library/medicaid/75-038.html#Dean

His views on who and who should not be suitable for home care, very caring views.
SNIP...."Governor Dean. Well, I think it is very clear--and I will comment as a physician not as a Governor on this one. I have taken care of a lot of people over the age of 65--over the age of 85, and it is very clear to me that the single most important way of keeping seniors happy and living longer is, in fact, keeping them happy. So I would actually disagree with anybody who said that the quality of care was going to be worse in the home, because by keeping somebody with independence, that enhances their own sense of independence and allows them, A, to do more for themselves than they would in an institution, and, B, to feel much better about themselves. And, therefore, that alone will keep them living longer.

And who should not be eligible:
SNIP...."Now, we are not talking about everybody. Remember, home health care is not for everybody. There are people who are so severely disabled that they must have institutional care, and we are not talking about doing away with all nursing homes. But there are an enormous number--in our State, for all we have done in expanding home health with the waiver, we still think that we have at least 10 percent of patients who are in institutions now who don't need to be there, and we can't get them out now because once you go in, you become dependent and you need even more services. So you have got to stop them from going in in the first place. Then they are not only happier, but they do better physically......"

Another link which appears to be a statement rather than the interaction above:
http://aging.senate.gov/events/hr71hd.htm

These are very long and take some reading. Please read them before you again refer to 95. Please also tell what stances YOUR candidates are taking on the preservation of Medicare and in what form. I think that is fair, since most seem to think their candidates are supportive.

I hope we can keep this kicked for the ones who have been posting about him all day for his statements in 95. Thanks.

[madfloridian]

1. I am surprised there are no responses on this.

There are a lot of people who wanted some stuff about Dean's stances on these issues. Or maybe not.
:kick:

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

2. There are no responses on this

...because Dean supporters like me probably suspect that it's another Dean-bashing thread. My curiosity finally got the best of me, and I'm glad it did.

It's hard to write good subject headings for these things.

[indigo32]

3. Thx for this

I never had any doubt on the Healthcare issue.

[indigo32]

4. kick

eom

[madfloridian]

5. Well, where's all the folks who wanted to know his stances on issues?

Hmmm...mm.
Let's keep this kicked a while.

[madfloridian]

6. One last kick in case anyone cares.

People begged for answers on his stances, and here are two long pages full of well-planned medical ideas.

:kick:

[sandnsea]

7. If Bush proposed this

You'd all know the intent was to shut down nursing homes and keep people in their homes because it's cheaper, even if it isn't always the best situation medically. First it becomes a sort of voluntary thing, then it becomes mandatory, then Medicaid and Medicare people can't go to a nursing home at all. We all know that's the way it works.

"Martha says four Vermont nursing homes have closed recently, and one has down sized.

We asked Martha directly, "How can you explain a policy that says we can lose nursing home beds even though we know the number of people in the senior citizen population is growing?" "I can't explain that policy," Martha says, "It just, it, um, doesn't make any sense to me."

http://www.abc22.com/news/archive.php?story=1987