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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:18 PM
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Rummy on msnbc the constituon he is talking of at the moment.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:19 PM
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1. he is saying of the insurgants are losing.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:20 PM
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2. saying there have always been those who predicted America's failure.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:21 PM
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5. "american's are a tough lot and will see their commitments through"
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:29 PM
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18. Does that apply to Dubya?
Dubya is a tough guy, seeing his committments through by sitting around on his ranch with his thumb up his butt.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:33 PM
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23. well, you know that unreality thing is being re-evaluated (says the WH
aids).
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:26 PM
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13. Guess he thinks his name is America
Rummy has failed, as predicted.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:21 PM
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4. Does he appear drunk ?
That would be an explanation for misunderstanding reality!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:22 PM
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7. he seems and talks rather subdued today. no funny smiles (yet).
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:26 PM
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14. He does look quite subdued
Only a couple of his 'clever snips'


He knows he's fucked.

He knows history will laugh at him and lump him in with leaders like General Custer
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:04 PM
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70. The US has lost 7 soldiers in the last 24 hours
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:06 PM
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74. I have to dig for that information under other headlines.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:21 PM
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3. Sounds like nothing new there
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:21 PM
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6. I am so confused!
Is that a known unknown or a known known or an unknown known?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:23 PM
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8. Is there a real danger of the US being caught up in a real civil war?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:24 PM
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10. rummy says that a civil war not happened. the people are moving to-
gether--just the opposite of what we would see if a civil war was pending.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:29 PM
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19. ...and I believe him
:sarcasm:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:29 PM
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20. LOL, real civil war versus an 'unreal' civil war?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:24 PM
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9. He almost looks scared. Did KKK Carl Rove give him a talking to?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:25 PM
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12. umm.. i think just on the quiet side.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:25 PM
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11. No more safe havens for insurgents!!!!!!
Wow this is great news. Has anyone told american soldiers that?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:27 PM
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15. odd, rummy says people are being trained elsewhere and then going
into Iraq. the reverse of what is know.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:28 PM
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16. a reporter had asked-Do you believe that terrorists are being trained
in Irag?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:28 PM
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17. Yes. They are not gaining any experience in warfare in Iraq
How could anyone be so delusional?

:crazy:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:30 PM
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21. Who always says that Iraq is now a breeding ground for terrorists.?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:32 PM
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22. rummy says need 30,000 to do the job of the military--move from
desk jobs to active duty was one of them. te he--bet they will have lots of resignations or not re-enlisting. he is talking of base closings.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:34 PM
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26. oh oh--a Cindy question.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:36 PM
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29. He's vewy vewy sad about that
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:36 PM
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30. deaths (have) contributed to the liberation of Irag--the ZaKowee's
of this world. Our task is to help them understand--and help the country understand.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:37 PM
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31. Rummy avoided the question and did not really respond --unless that
would be his answer.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:38 PM
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35. Is the fact that the contamination of nuclear fuel was found to be from
Pak--does this decrease the threat? Rummy said he would leave the intel to the intel people.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:39 PM
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38. Anything he's afraid to answer with the real truth he deflects.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:12 PM
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77. Does Rummy realize that junior has taken a sovereign nation and
turned it into a roach infested slum for Islamic extremists?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:38 PM
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34. You mean 2 1/2 years later and we still can't control the borders?
No wonder Clark Kent al Zarqawi keeps moving about and those messages from bin Laden keep filtering through.

Not to mention those Iranian infrared bombs.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:34 PM
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25. Funny, The Guardian just had extensive coverage of a safe haven
Under US noses, brutal insurgents rule Sunni citadel
Guardian gains rare access to Iraqi town and finds it fully in control of 'mujahideen'
August 22, 2005

The executions are carried out at dawn on Haqlania bridge, the entrance to Haditha. A small crowd usually turns up to watch even though the killings are filmed and made available on DVD in the market the same afternoon.

One of last week's victims was a young man in a black tracksuit. Like the others he was left on his belly by the blue iron railings at the bridge's southern end. His severed head rested on his back, facing Baghdad. Children cheered when they heard that the next day's spectacle would be a double bill: two decapitations. A man named Watban and his brother had been found guilty of spying.

With so many alleged American agents dying here Haqlania bridge was renamed Agents' bridge. Then a local wag dubbed it Agents' fridge, evoking a mortuary, and that name has stuck.

(more)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1553781,00.html


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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:35 PM
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28. The entire country is a safe haven
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:40 PM
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39. send this to Rummy.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:41 PM
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40. What a complete and utter nightmare
What's going to become of this mess?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:03 PM
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69. Here's what he said yesterday about the insurgency:
Now then, you could say, well, maybe if you got that fixed, there wouldn't be so many violent instances of acts by insurgents. I think the other way to look at it is that the insurgents are part of the reason why those services are low, because they're attacking oil lines and they're attacking electrical -- the electrical grid and trying to make the Iraqi government unsuccessful. That -- the insurgents are doing that.

So I think there's no way to answer your question as to how long will it take to get those services up, because to the extent -- it's a heck of a lot easier to blow up an oil line or take down an electrical power station than it is to build one.




I thought the insurgency was largely eliminated? Last throes? We're winning and all that jazz....
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:33 PM
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24. Now talking about base closures
..and how it will increase troop size..
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:43 PM
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43. "It's a very open process"
"It's a very open process, it's on television...spent two, two and a half years, working on this...the data was arranged..certified, presented to the commission with recommendations
Now we're seeing marketing data from states...
(What we have is )certified data vs information that's been gathered for the purpose of making a point.
I don't know what the commission said...the GAO said...I only know what I read in the paper."

"Modularization...cost avoidance..."


"I looked at this work product...I made a decision that this was our chance in maybe a quarter of a century...interest of the taxpayers, there wasn't an ounce of politics in any aspect of it...it would be risky for me to second guess..."
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:34 PM
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27. Maybe he'll say...
he has found the Weapons of Mass Destruction Program Related Activities. No wait, I think Dubya already took credit for that.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:37 PM
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32. No but he did say something about 'deadenders'
And he wasn't nearly so dismissive of them as he used to be, i guess because now he knows that he's a deadender
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:38 PM
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33. He wouldn't answer the question about comparisons between
Viet Nam and IraqNam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny stuff. "too many differences to go into here....."

He looks like he wants to cry
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:42 PM
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42. te he
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:39 PM
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36. Will there be a full transcript of this someplace?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:43 PM
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44. probably on the Pent. website later>
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:44 PM
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45. ah...probably so.
I'm having some premature senior moments today.


;)
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:47 PM
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49. We're Creating One
I think this message string is about the best transcript we'll ever see. Hahahahaha!
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:39 PM
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37. "A return to darkness"
Iraq?

"I think it'll have the support of the American people...the alternative is to turn that country over to terrorists and people who have used chemicals on their people...a return to darkness."

Vietnam?

"The differences...too long to list them."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:44 PM
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46. the dark--is Cheney talk.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:52 PM
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56. Cheney Talk?
Is he saying, "in fact" in about half his sentences?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:42 PM
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41. Somebody needs to give this fuckwad some Prozac
I've never seen him so down before.....guess his quagmire is getting him down.

No cute little snippy answers.

No swaggering.

Sounds whiney and hopeless.

:bounce:


:bounce:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:45 PM
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47. must have had a few long weeks with all the US dead this month.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:46 PM
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48. rummy says the increase in problems in Afgan is due to upcoming
elections (sept 18).
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:47 PM
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50. Yes. Every time there is an 'improvement' things get worse
See how that works?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:48 PM
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51. real nonchalant about saying maybe a 1000 or 2000 increase in US
troops going to Irag for the elections--'like we did in the past'--
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:49 PM
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53. now rummy is getting a bit hyper--what sparked him?? I missed it.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:51 PM
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54. someone asked about what if the constitution isn't agreed on
Herr Rummy flipped his lid completely


I think the man is utterly insane
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:52 PM
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57. thanks --te he--up that sure sparked his goat!!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:49 PM
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52. OOOOOHHHHHHHHHH MYYYY, He's LOSING IT!!!!!!!!!
what if this? what if that?

Hard work!!

call the guys in white coats
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:51 PM
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55. it was some question he claimed was a hypothetical situation--then he
went bonkers with hands flying. now all calmed down.
let do it again!!!!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:54 PM
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58. missed it about Pat. R. question--what did Rummy say?--reporter said
he took 2 qeestions on this.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:56 PM
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59. "he's a private citizen, they say lots of things, its illegal"
He didn't condemn it of course, since his silly ass tried to knock off Chavez last year and he fucked it up like he fucks everything up
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:58 PM
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62. well, we know the US never does anything illegal--so things are cool
with Rummy - te he.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:56 PM
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60. Show 'em you're tough.
He’s got to show these right-wingers that he’s got a back bone, ya know? Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching. You show ‘em you’re tough…
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:59 PM
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63. "I don't Do hypotheticals!"
"What's this, what's that, what's this what's that.....?"

When he "loses his temper" like that it's to avoid answering a given question. A ploy, a game, a lie.

If he can't do hypotheticals what the fuck is he doing in charge of all those weapons??? HE had control over whether or not to shoot down the "little plane that could" over D.C. airspace while Chimpy rode his trike. But he can't do hypotheticals. Bullshit!!!! LYING ASSHOLE!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:00 PM
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64. and I don't do windows. yeah.
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:08 PM
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76. Well put, Panda
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:58 PM
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61. reminds me of
"who's this 'we', kemosabe"? (tonto to the lone ranger)

rummy can be as tough as he wants . . . preferably in iraq.

ellen fl
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:01 PM
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66. now msnbc is saying that the President is sharpening his tone with Cindy
-she does not represent many of the families I have met--says Jr.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:02 PM
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67. reporter saying Pres 'seems ready to take her on" whow whow whow
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:03 PM
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68. Pres. says Sunnies have to make a choise--live free or in violence.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:05 PM
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71. Bartlett, The President and Now Rumsfield all talking of Irag--they
want some coverage as Cindy has been most of it. --so that is why all the press stuff today.
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:05 PM
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73. Who was this reporter and what station?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:07 PM
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75. sorry, msnbc had finished the Rummy stuff--went to their reg. news.
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:05 PM
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72. He has barely met any and has attended NO funerals!
What in the hell is he talking about??
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:01 PM
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65. Easy to say
Lots of people want to be tough, using somebody else's family members for cannon fodder.
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