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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:47 PM
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you can fool ALL of the Televangelist's Supporters ALL the time.
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 04:48 PM by mopaul
those who are devoted to, and who financially support jerry fartwell and pat robertsonofabitch and joyce meyers (shudder) and benny hinn (puke) are easily led around like cattle with rings in their noses.

and guess what? if the televangelists told them to, they'd kill us all.

think i'm kidding?

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:49 PM
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1. Color me convinced.
:scared:
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:53 PM
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2. I was raised to believe they were "evil incarnate" ...
I kid you not. (I'm kinda old,too)

I have no doubt about their dangers ...
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:57 PM
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3. I wish you WERE kidding
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fiveleafclover Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:57 PM
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4. How the hell does Benny Hinn
fool anybody? He doesn't even seem like he's trying most of the time. Who keeps sending this asshole money?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:04 PM
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9. Consider those he's fooling
People who either can't or won't think for themselves, who while being led to believe that their faith is in God, have yet to realize
that their faith is in a man.

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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:00 PM
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5. No. Anyone who was raised to just blindly follow and not question things
scares the daylights outta me.

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:01 PM
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6. I agree with you
100%
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mpyle27 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:03 PM
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7. Amen!
Just be happy and enjoy the show!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:03 PM
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8. As The Saying Goes, Sir
"You can fool too many of the people too much of the time."
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:58 PM
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10. They are cultists.
And among their various cultish beliefs and practices, they are often infected with personality cults. What makes it interesting is that they often hold several persons in this revered (by them) status of cult leader (to differing degrees, anyway) at the same time (it was the cult of Stalin, not of "Extreme Jesus", W, Falwell, etc) -- and that their reverence frequently amounts to something like actual worship of the living (although generally avoiding the more direct forms of worship, like praying "to", instead of "for"), even though their "official religion" (generally) would seem to forbid this.

And while the RW pseudo-religious cultists typically take the name of Christianity to themselves, I think of it as polytheism, with a changing pantheon of gods -- and with their various leaders as living "gods" in some shifting hierarchy (along with those great unchanging "gods", wealth, power, material goods, etc) -- and accompanied by such "religious" practices as hatred, intolerance, rudeness, cruelty, incivility, carelessness, indifference, seduction, manipulation, the ruthless acquisition of wealth, power, position, place, etc, and etc.

Some member here put it rather nicely: what these crazies share is the fuhrerprincip itself (a devotion to the all-knowing, all-deciding leader, which in the actual nazi practice also involved various levels of "leadership"), even where they don't share the exact same "leaders". It's a somewhat looser system here (and now) with our own (rather than with the nazis), and their "loyalty" (more like willfully blind, heedless, unthinking support) is more transferable. (And it's to be expected that "supreme leadership" will eventually be transfered to whomever the neocons next anoint as president -- at least provided he wins -- the crazies do tend to recognize the importance of "winning" in their "leaders".) And there are also some bounds on what would be acceptable even from their "leaders". (Espousing abortion as birth control would generally be verboten.)

So it is a sort of loosely-bounded fuhrerprincip, or looked at in another way: these cultists practice the fuhrerprincip in return for the understanding that their "leaders" will not go beyond set bounds* (a very few set bounds and these having virtually no negative personal impact on the "leadership") -- and the expectation that these "leaders" will enforce the followers will (at least as defined in these bounds) on the greater society.

And this is not about to change, because it's their "culture" -- a "culture" that they have turned into a "mission".

bounds*: I would characterize these bounds as being trickle-down economics (often sold under the guise of being free market economics, but the core belief is in wealth concentration, which trickle-down sums up nicely -- and which is what appeals to the elite), some set of extreme fundie "religious" beliefs (which are generally too odious for me to go on about) and faux-patriotic, faux-nationalist, their-way-can't-be-wrong dogmatism.

...

A couple of quibbles.

So that idiots can understand it, maybe your saying should be: "A televangelist can fool ALL of his supporters ALL (of) the time." But pretty much that is the definition of his (hardcore) supporters (those of a televangelist or a similar people-exploiting type) -- those he can fool all of the time. Those followers that he can fool only some of the time might eventually (in some cases) be expected to develop some doubts and to become somewhat less fervent in their worship (although they may also just rely on some form of denial to smooth over any such rough spots and edges).

...

And "they'd try to kill us". Succeeding (if one is prepared, forewarned, etc) may be another matter.
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