Is It Time for a Democratic "Wild and Crazy Guy"??

[DemocracyInaction]

Every now and then a politician or a political situation comes along that develops a life of it's own (I remember an unknown, Georgia politician who ran around knocking on doors and saying, "Hi, I'm Jimmy Carter and I'm running for President of the United States"--his approach was so unique and refreshing, he ended up in the Oval Office!). Right now we have a citizenry that's in an ugly mood (oil/war, etc.) and it's going to get worse.

The people rate us Dems even lower than their disgust with Bush. But why not?? We are the same old, same old. What if an outspoken (and NOT back down) kind of guy blasted onto the scene this fall?? The people are looking for a way to piss on this war but cannot admit to themselves that they were mind-washed morons who got sucked into this losing situation. Pumping the words, "the son of a bitch lied to us" gives them an escape route. Pointing fingers at Bush, blaming him and republicans for everything from oil prices to your kid's lousy grades to your ingrown toenails and never, ever backing down from that position even under withering repuke attacks, might just (gasp) WORK!! Sure as shit nothing else has and won't--in fact, these people are putting me to sleep and I'm at least interested!!! And you know what?? When someone like that catches fire and the public starts to think of them as "their kinda guy", it's amazing how the donations from the big boys/girls start rolling in. So while the "basically in bed with the republicans" real pros craft their strategies for '08, may I suggest that someone who has nothing to lose blast on to the scene and do a "I'm mad and I'm not going to take it anymore and I need us all to get together and go tell the assholes we have had enough"!!! (Perhaps the people are getting as sick of these pricks with broomsticks up their rectums as I am).

[El Supremo]

1. I thought that was Howard Dean. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

2. Me too.

[Fridays Child]

3. Me, too, and I still want him to be prez...

...or vp, on a Gore/Dean ticket. Pipe dream, I know.

[MisterP]

4. but if he runs again we'll be re-subjected to all that froth like his

plusbad "hot anger" vs. Marshmallow McWarbucks'--or whoever runs--"cold anger." Then the tirades to not be Stalinist, dishes best served cold, how Rice was absolutely correct, and so on

[DemocracyInaction]

5. That was THEN and the country wasn't ready. It is NOW

They kept things in check enough so that M/M America thought Dean was just a wacko. Everyone went about the same old, same old campaign shit. But NOW is different. NOW the people don't approve of the asshole they voted back into office (go figure). NOW they are hurting very directly because of oil prices and are scared to death of where it will end for them. NOW they figured out Iraq is a dead end rat hole. Yes, it's too bad they didn't figure it all out before but oil hadn't given them a kick in the butt yet. I think they are getting to the point of being "loaded for bear". I think if a Dem bear showed up, they would listen for a change. It can't be Howard because they have been brained washed to ignore him. Surely, we have someone who can start making headlines with wild and crazy statements like "the truth" with no sugar coating and with a I'm breaking this beer bottle and sticking it into the repukes face type of "attitude".

[Southsideirish]

6. Howard Dean would be a magnificent president - I only wish he hadn't

muzzled himself with the stupid party head role.

[mongo]

12. He would make a great president -

and he will also do so much good where he is now. I don't think he is "muzzled". Let the man do his job. We may be all thanking him later.

[yurbud]

20. I agree, but he's showing grassroots $ can replace corp money

[lostinacause]

18. Howard Dean is very skilled at getting the support of people

who already support him. He also doesn't control his emotions and says things that he really shouldn't. He doesn't have what it takes to make the democrats successful.

[renaissanceguy]

7. We need an FDR...

someone who will shake things up.

If our early candidates in '08 don't have backbone, I say we get Dean to run despite his statement not to.

[DemocracyInaction]

9. reniassanceguy--Exactly! They weren't ready for Howard in '04

but now oil has them hurting and scared. And as I just posted, we see they now don't support Bush nor the war. NOW is the time for the "Dean type". Too bad Howard isn't new on scene right now instead of having burnt his powder a year ago. Now they would listen to him. Why can't these dead, dead politicans of ours realize that they need to have someone swoop in in their "cape crusader" costume and start making the people believe that they can "save the day"?? The usual old fat bastards in the pink tights make the citizens still think a repub is preferable to a Dem. We need some flamboyant crazy guy or gal that captures the zeal of the American people.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

22. can you imagine the ads that they'd run against FDR

they'd have one that shows the chimp cycling, running, skydiving.

Then show FDR in a wheelchair.

"America deserves a President that can at least walk".

"I'm George W. Bush and I approve this message".

[AlGore-08.com]

11. Gore would be a better choice

Nothing against Dr. Dean, but Gore is much more qualified to actually run the country. He has a much more varied resume, including a very, very strong national security record. But he opposed the war, the patriotic act, and every single one of Smirk's stupid, hurtful ideas from the moment they were proposed.

Gore also has a long, positive history with moderate to conservative voters (especially voters in the South and other read areas); so strong that he won both the nomination and the general despite the worst of the GOP attacks. There is nobody, who was harassed by the press the way that Gore was during the 2000 election (with Clinton coming a close second).

[lostinacause]

19. Dean is not an FDR.

FDR was able to create something totally new that was what was needed at the time. I don't believe that Dean will be able to do the same.

[cdsilv]

23. wesley clarke

'nuff said

[mongo]

8. BILL MOYERS!

I can't think of a more charismatic American who can speak clearly, gives a shit about the average person struggling to make ends meet, and is a total outsider.

God, I wish he'd run. He could wipe anyones ass the 'pubs want to run.

[DemocracyInaction]

13. Mongo--that's the kind of thinking!!!

Hey, everyone, remember dipshit Jessie Ventura??? The "act" worked, didn't it?? You could probably get the "flip side" of the religious right folks to vote if Jerry Springer was on the ballot!!! We need a "personality" (not as in a "famous person" but as in a stick of dynamite up our ass). We haven't had a personality for like forever!!!

[mongo]

14. I've thrown out Moyer's name a couple of times

I've seen some of the interviews and speeches he has given. The man is a real progressive, but is not going to come off as scary to Joe Sixpack.

[TomInTib]

10. Is there a likely Democratic governor out there somewhere?

That seems to be the most likely route to the Presidency based on recent history. I live in CA, land of one of the few Repub govs that makes * seem semi-articulate and P/C...('bout now he'd be calling Chavez a "Girlie-man"), but do any of y'all have any likely candidates?

[AlGore-08.com]

15. If we run a Governor we'll be playing defense on terrorism & defense

Anybody old enough to have lived through the end of the Cold War can see this coming a mile away. Governors are always vulnerable to charges that they lack experience in International affairs and national defense (by extension terrorism).

It's a valid point, especially since it seems unlikely that terrorism will suddenly stop being an issue before 2008. And, unfortunately, we may still be in Iraq in 2008.

[U4ikLefty]

16. I'm sure we'll have the DLC'ers here to condemn them

as people who are "too divisive" to win.

[Al-CIAda]

17. Huey P. Long ! -nt

[Beaverhausen]

21. How about Rocky Anderson, Mayor of Salt Lake City?

He proved to be a pretty wild guy yesterday!

Although I still love Dean!!!

[wli]

24. I'd run but I'm not old enough. n/t