Wilson spiling his guts on Nightline! Turn it on now!

[grytpype]

I can't believe what he's said already.

Basically, he totally defended the bona fide nature of his being chosen for the Niger mission. He was an old Africa hand who had extensive knowledge of and contacts in Niger and the African uranium industry.

This all started when Cheney had a question for a CIA briefer on the question of the Niger Connection and asked for updated information.

He was contacted by the CIA through his wife, Plame.

A panel of about a dozen people from the CIA, State Dept., and maybe the Pentagon interviewed him, and asked him to go to Niger and check things out.

Plame told Wilson beforehand that the Niger story was already discredited, by her personally and by a four-star Marine general.

Wilson briefed State and the CIA on his findings.

That's the last thing he heard about it until the SOTU. Wilson called WH afterwards and asked for a correction. WH said maybe he was not talking about Niger. Then when the forgeries broke, and Wilson said the Administation knew more than it was telling.

Then the Plame leaks began. Frogmarch: Wilson was too caught up in the spirit of the moment, but he meant he wants the investigation to go forward. The CIA works for the White House, right? And respectable press people are saying after Novak's article, Rove was calling around saying Plame was fair game.

Wilson told everyone about the results of his Niger investigation and is willing to talk about that and the Plame Affair.

"The leaking of this information, in and of itself, is the crime."

He addressed the Democratic caucus because he was invited but would speak to the GOP caucus as well. In fact he'd love to do it.

[Booberdawg]

1. Thanks!

[Walt Starr]

2. FUCKING A!, THE SPOOKS ARE AFTER CHENEY NOW!

Looks like Rove is small potatoes now. Cheney appears to have his head in the spook crosshairs now!

[Booberdawg]

3. I SAID the 2 people were Cheney and Rove!!

[janekat]

47. where did you say that - sorry I just got back on here....

n/t

[Booberdawg]

58. Oh sorry - I said it the last couple days in other threads

[shance]

11. Nightline 10 or 11 o clock West coast?

n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

30. 11:35

[shance]

44. Thanks RIF *

n/t

[KittyWampus]

22. Astrologically, Cheney Is In For A Hellacious Couple Of Months

Nancy Waterman has been calling this Cheney, in this time frame, for a while.

Wonder if his ticker will hold out.

[fla nocount]

50. Cheney down, Bush down, McCain the new Reprehensident.

If the bastards had waited another 20 years we would all be dead or have Alzheimers and wouldn't remember the pattern. Greed kills.

[frank frankly]

4. Cheney and Rove

oh we might live to see 2005 after all!!!!

hooray! :)

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

10. And it's my birthday!

This is wonderful! Happy birthday to me... Happy birthday to me...

[frank frankly]

14. happy birthday!

go Wilson, go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dweller]

49. May the whole World

celebrate with you, we have made it into another year, whole.
and the bastards are going to fall too! that's icing on the cake...
yum!

peace,
dp

[oustemnow]

70. mine too Danny

Libras unite, not that I give much credence to astrology.

Feliz cumpleanos, Danny!

[Sliverofhope]

5. Wow!

He will name the reporters!? Suggesting they might be accessories to the crime!? Wooooah.

[coda]

46. I think his point is that their reporting of it isn't criminal.

Not cooperating might be. He says he doesn't know.

If enough of these reporters are forced out, then are assailed by Gillispie et. al. then maybe more will come out and defend them. We need a paradigm shift here. This may be what triggers it.

[w13rd0]

6. Is someone taping this?

I've got three units running and I can get this too. Please say someone is archiving this...

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. If Rove did this, he did it with Bush complete knowledge and support

Even if he did it without support, two months have passed and Bush did nothing having HAD to know that Rove did it....BUSH is Nixon ( no offense to Nixon who was brilliant and evil)...I suspect anytime in the next couple months, the military will get orders just as they did prior to NIXON's departure NOT TO FOLLOW HIS ORDERS

[Brucey]

24. But Wilson doesn't think Bush approved it.

He did work for Poppy Bush that was appreciated, so he does not think that W could turn on him.

[Must_B_Free]

37. Bush seems like a red herring in and of himself

he really isn't much more than a cheerleader and mascot that they roll to fundraisers.

Does anyone really think he is a mastermind of ANYTHING? This guy is just a fucking prop that they plop on the x and he stumbles through his lines.

This thing is AMAZING in that it is targetting the real evil minds and it has them pinned in like a MOFO, can't blame little guys who couldn't have access to the info.

Old Nofacts

The losers are America and Laplame. We are the Neocons' Monica Lewinsky, getting fucked by Rove and Cheney's leak, with Bob Novak as Linda Tripp, the piece of toilet paper gettting flushed after the shit's over.

[dweller]

38. bingo. n/t

dp

[Booberdawg]

60. I'm going to just SHIT if your call on this turns out to be true

wonder if we'd even know about it though ..

[kimchi]

8. Take no prisoners, Wilson!

His is not showing an ounce of fear. Rove, Rove, Rove is over!

[Kat 333]

66. Like Janis said ...

Freedoms just another word for nothin left to lose ...
Fucking A - Good for him

[ShaneGR]

9. Are you going to name all of the reporters involved?

Yes.

[madrchsod]

12. this is pretty much

what he said on john stewart last month

[Nottingham]

13. OMG!! He knows its Rove !!! OMG! & he has the names!

The White House is in Deep Shit!

:bounce:

[Mari333]

15. ahhhhh be still my heart.

This is fucking great. I cant wait til tomorrow.

[grytpype]

18. Yeah, it's a bit like Christmas Eve, isn't it?

What did Sanny Claus leave for me under the tree this morning?

Why, it's Karl Rove's head! And look at that lovely platter!

[Bucky]

16. I'm having a Marie Antoinette moment

Let them eat shit!

[lcordero]

17. The guy interviewing said something about something that

Wilson is doing has the aura of "partisanship" since Wilson is meeting up with the Democratic Caucus or something of the like. He replied that he would be delighted to meet up with the Republican Caucus. It didn't even sound right for Ted Kopple to say that. It sounded like Kopple was belittling the issue.

[shance]

25. When in America did the truth become "partisan"?

Pathetic denial of the truth. It should be a felony as well, along with outing a CIA operative.

[lcordero]

31. The lady is providing this country a service that she doesn't

have to. Somebody leaked out her whereabouts and her business in order to intentionally put her in danger...and they have the gall to call it partisanship when Wilson goes to somebody to have this investigated.

[blm]

74. Ever since they found out he supports John Kerry.

They won't admit that he's disillusioned with the hamhandedness of their party. They have to pretend its politics to get away with it.

[Gin]

27. I think he was happy to hear him make that last statement...

man...this was so exciting...He will name names...that fucker rove saying his wife is fair game...now mr. rove you are fair game.

[shance]

19. WHAT TIME WEST COAST?? 10 or 11?

n/t

[lcordero]

23. It just ended

[shance]

26. On the West coast?

??

[WyLoochka]

32. SW - Phoenix 10:30 MST n/t

[Syrinx]

33. it should be at 11:35 out west I think

[scarletwoman]

42. Have you tried looking it up?

Do a search for your local abc affiliate and get their TV schedule. Like: (your city/region)-abc-TV-station

[proud patriot]

39. I just checked it Starts at 11:30 on the West Coast

:bounce: Sitting on pins and needles

[shance]

51. Thanks Proud Pat***

:)

[proud patriot]

57. Thanks for asking and your welcome

I was hoping someone would tell us ,
but alass I found the shedule on the web
before anyone could answer:shrug:

[cliss]

20. WOW This is too much.

Booberdawg, you get a big prize for being right. I remember reading that on one of your posts. If this is true, I will keel over in my chair.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LDShorse!!! Hope you had a nice day. I can't imagine a better one than this.

[Booberdawg]

59. Thanks, I'm glad I have a witness!

I can't remember what thread it was in, actually there were two and it was over last weekend. Just can't pull it out of my memory right now.. I had my reasons for connecting it with Cheney too so still to see if that pans out or if it was just stupid luck.

[caledesi]

21. NL was good! How about when he commented about being

asked who the reporters were and if the FBI asked him who they were he would NAME NAMES! I love it!

It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove! It's Karl Rove!

[eek]

29. it is on at 11:35pm in my Central Time market

I will be quite pist if we get an edited version.

[candy331]

36. Wilson knows

I stand by it.

[markses]

28. You got that wrong

"Plame told Wilson beforehand that the Niger story was already discredited, by her personally and by a four-star Marine general."

It was NOT Plame who told him it had been discredited, but the then (and current) Ambassador to Niger Gail Dennise Mathieu.

[grytpype]

35. OK, let's call this a disputed quote.

I didn't record Nightline so I can't go back and check. But I think he did say his wife had an opinion on the Niger Connection (the same as everyone else's).

[markses]

43. He may have said something like that

But he brought up the 4 star Marine general when detailing his discussions with the Ambassador to Niger. Since it is the same sentence, and since Wilson downplayed his wife's opinion on the matter, well, y'know...

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

40. And Mathieu was subsequently proven right.

[remfan]

73. Thank you, markses! That line really freaked me out

*whew*

[Spoon]

34. Did he say that after the Novak article is when Rove started making calls?

I didn't see the interview, and your transcript is a bit ambigious.

"And respectable press people are saying after Novak's article, Rove was calling around saying Plame was fair game."

[grytpype]

45. Yes. The "fair game" calls were after Novak.

[populistmom]

41. Oh shoot (can't swear on GD)

Wish I knew this was on tonight.

[FlaGranny]

65. Sure you can swear in GD -

If and when the new rules take effect you can still swear, put just not in the original post in a thread. Feel free. :-)

[Unknown Known]

48. This is all coming from Cheney - ultimately!

It's common knowledge that Cheney and Libby both spent a lot of time at CIA Langley before the war, pressuring to get the intel they wanted.

Rove is the middle-man, dubya handler and general dirty-trickster.

I doubt Rove knew inately that Plame was an operative. This info had to come from Cheney or Libby and was given to Rove to "take care of this problem".

Dubya is the quinessential Huddsucker Proxy.

Cheney runs this operation.

[caledesi]

67. Cheney is at the core of this

Read this from Truthout (William Pitt)

CHENEY was the one behind sending Wilson to Niger!

You Mr. Bush, Are A Liar

<snip>

In the last week, a blizzard of revelations from high-ranking members of the intelligence community has turned these Bush administration claims inside out. It began with a New York Times editorial by Joseph Wilson, former US ambassador to several African nations. Wilson was dispatched in February of 2002 at the behest of Dick Cheney to investigate the veracity of the Niger evidence. Wilson spent eight days digging through the data, and concluded that the evidence was completely worthless. The documents in question which purportedly indicated Iraqi attempts to purchase uranium were crude forgeries.

Upon his return in February of 2002, Ambassador Wilson reported back to the people who sent him on his errand. According to his editorial, the CIA, the State Department, the National Security Council and the Vice President's office were all informed that the Niger documents were forged. "That information was erroneous, and they knew about it well ahead of both the publication of the British white paper and the president's State of the Union address," said Wilson in a 'Meet the Press' interview last Sunday.

<snip>


http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/071103A.shtml

[nolabels]

71. What seems funny about this part is if somebody didn't know that.......

this was something that went on in US federal government executive branch, and some body changed a few references to the place, one could even think this was really just some sop by some shady business when they do the con

[eleny]

52. Rove must be in white-hot meltdown...

after watching the interview tonight.

It's just starting here in mountain time. But I loved reading about it ahead of time. Going to enjoy every honest minute of it!

Huggs all around!

[Webster Green]

53. This is so sweet!

Watching the media whores and the pukes trying to defend treason! Their partisan scumbaggery knows no bounds. How low can they go?

[rucky]

54. Wilson Spilled it Tonight to Save His Life???

He still better go into protective custody - and stay away from small planes - while the investigation is going on. I'm sure he has some CIA friends...

:tinfoilhat:

[eleny]

55. Wilson is also a hottie!

It's been on my mind for weeks and weeks.

Well, I'm in my late 50s. What can I say!

[caledesi]

68. I think he is hot too, El.

[MinnFats]

56. Fuggin' KSTP/Twin Cities skipped it! GDAMN it!

Ok, they HAD to do a sports special after the news because the Twins beat the Yankees today....THEN go to NIGHTLINE, right?

NO! They skip it and go to reruns of "King of Queens!!!?!?!"

What the hell!

Of course, you must know the station is owned by one of Minnesota's most famous bedrock right-wing ideologues and rich financier of Repub/right wingnut causes: Stanley Hubbard. His radio arm brings us the likes of Rush, Hannity and other such luminaries.


help me light a fire:

email:
[e-mail]

phone
651-646-5555.

nobody there now. i tried every permutation of the number I could think of.

oh, jam up their talk show line in the m orning, too, ok?

651-646-8255

[Booberdawg]

61. Wonder if there is a transcript of the show?

[janekat]

62. Wonder what George Herbert Walker is thinking right now??

"I told you not to hire that little weasel Rove!"

[Unknown Known]

63. The Kennebunkport Hillbillies

[Nevernose]

64. Starting on the West Coast!

Looks good so far, but one question: Is Ted Koppel animatronic?

[PurityOfEssence]

69. This quote is the most incentiary thing I've heard in years:

Wilson said that the journalist who called him said: "I just got off the phone with Karl Rove, and he said that Wilson's wife is fair game."

I was astounded. That's a smoking gun.

[T Bone]

72. Important thread here

kicking it back up.
This Nightline interview needs archiving and dissemination.

An important thing to watch for is will the DOJ investigation use Wilson's information to question the right people ?