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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:01 AM
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Republlcans call it "personal issues," I say its pedophile rape...
Republican Committeeman Accused Of Molesting Boy

STROUDSBURG

A state Republican committeeman in the Poconos has been charged with molesting a teenage boy at an underage beer party in a Stroudsburg motel, police said Friday.

-snip-

On Thursday, Stroud Area Regional police charged Curtin with involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, sexual assault, aggravated indecent assault, indecent assault, furnishing liquor to minors, corruption of minors and unlawful contact with a minor.

-snip-

Helen Diecidue, chairwoman of the Monroe County Republican Party, said Curtin has been a committeeman since 2004.

''He's really a nice person,'' Diecidue said. ''He's been a tireless worker for the party and helped many candidates. But obviously he has some personal issues to deal with, and I wish him well.''



http://www.mcall.com/news/local/police/all-3gopaug20,0,6756041.story?coll=all-newslocalpolice-hed
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:03 AM
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1. More repug family values...
Fucking sick pedophile piece of shit. Here's hoping he rots in jail!:grr:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:05 AM
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2. ''He's really a nice person,''
For a republican that is!

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:04 AM
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19. a likeable guy, a nice person with uh...some personal problems
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:07 AM
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3. What's with all the republican pedophiles?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:22 AM
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10. It's the big GOP tent.
It covers pedophiles, wife beaters, crooks, rapists, war criminals, Nazi's, violent fanatics, religious loons and people with farm animal fetishes. It's sort of a rainbow coalition of evil.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:54 AM
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33. Heh heh.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:52 AM
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15. I think it's based on repression.
Most of these sick individuals, rather than dealing with a problem, repress it. It just festers, and they can't help but let it out.

To all the fundamentalist christians: When Jesus said "Children come unto me" this is NOT what he was talking about !!!
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:46 AM
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26. Repression and control
Even more than the repression, I think, is the issue of needing to be in control of the other party at all times, which is why so many Repukes hate feminism and the idea of equality for women. If they can't always be pushing other people around, they can't maintain their own inflated sense of self.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:40 AM
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18. All that repression eventually boils over into something evil
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:08 AM
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4. The list just keeps growing and growing and growing...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:09 AM
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5. And the judges say....the POINT goes to "rfranklin"! dingdingding!
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 06:10 AM by dicksteele
Sorry, Republican team...
the answer THE FACTS were looking for was: "pedophile rape",
yes, "Pedophile Rape".

We also would have accepted:
"Premeditated Child Molestation",
or "One Seriously Sick Excuse for a Human Being"


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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:14 AM
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6. I have three lovely kids, so this really tears at me. JAIL TIME...
Throw away the key Or least keep him under supervision for the rest of his life.

He's incurably sick.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:47 AM
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14. I agree, except not so much supervision.
Let the other inmates take care of him. They have kids too.
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Past_World_Doubt Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:18 AM
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7. Moral Values.....
I love those moral values that everyone talks about. *Sigh*
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:18 AM
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8. It wasn't personal issues when Clinton got a blow job
from a legal consenting adult!

Typical repuke hypocrisy.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:20 AM
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21. Pretty crazy!!! It just goes to show what Blind Faith can do...
The party is more important than nailing some sick individual.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:20 AM
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9. Yes, another word for "involuntary sexual intercourse" is rape.
''He's really a nice person,''

For a rapist, of course. They're all such model citizens.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:27 AM
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11. Buggering kids is a personal issue
What's the old saying about a dead girl or a live boy? Seems like a quaint anachronism anymore.

The day is coming when the 3rd Republican arrested for cannibalism will be spared the media glare because it's a "personal issue", a sad failing to be worked out behind closed doors with his family.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:38 AM
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12. Molesting children is terrible, and rape is terrible. But evidently
this guy is 20 - and his victim 17. It's not as if a fully grown man had raped a 12 year old.

--------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:12 AM
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16. Where I come from, 20 is old enough to know better than to rape.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:15 AM
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20. What part of "involuntary" is unclear? Never mind the age. "Involuntary."
In the parking lot...

About 10 p.m., Curtin and a 17-year-old boy walked to the motel's parking lot, where Curtin molested him, police said.

On Thursday, Stroud Area Regional police charged Curtin with involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, sexual assault, aggravated indecent assault, indecent assault, furnishing liquor to minors, corruption of minors and unlawful contact with a minor.


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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:21 AM
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22. Depending on the state, "involuntary" could be simply due to age.
There is an assumption in some states that anybody under 18 is not capable of granting consent to anybody over 18...thus, all sexual relations are involuntary.

Then again, it could mean just what it says...
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:29 AM
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24. There's also that charge of providing liquor to minors
Which pretty much takes away any chance of anything having been voluntary. The 17 year old was drinking. We'll never know if he would have consented or not had it not been for the alcohol - unless he is the one who reported the assault. This repub was only 20, himself, so if he was drinking it was also illegal. Are there any laws he didn't break?!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:42 AM
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25. He's still one hooker and one sheep behind most Repub. sex scandals.
When they do it, they do it big.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:46 AM
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27. This is true, but he's young, yet
Give him time - he'll catch up! He has a lot of scandals to live up to. He must feel very stressed.

;)
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:49 AM
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30. Ahh, the pressure of being a young Repub on the rise...
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:51 AM by MercutioATC
I feel for him...his initiation rite, fucking a kid (alternate Repub initation rites include fucking the poor, women, gays, minorities or anybody just genarally not wealthy, male and white) and he gets caught...


...poor guy.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:59 AM
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34. Age of consent in PA appears to be 16
according to this.

I was ready to give a 20 year old a break for having sex with a 17 year old (how many 17 year old males do you know who don't want to have sex?). But if the younger man was capable of legally giving consent but the incident was decribed as "involuntary" in the article, then I have to assume it was indeed rape/molestation (but NOT pedophilia).

To be honest, I'm betting that if the guy was a Democrat, a lot of people here would be trying to defend him.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:50 AM
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31. And how many times have we seen the condemnation flow forth here
When some guy in his early twenties has consensual sex with his underage girlfriend? Then there is the other issue, this wasn't even consensual, this was rape!

The man got the kid liquored up and then took advantage of him. Stop trying to make excuses for criminal behaviour.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:42 AM
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13. Okay. Then I hope the guy has 'personal issues' with HER children.
Will she still be so supportive of an otherwise "nice person"?

Nope.

You know I'm being sarcastic, but this double-standard of theirs is most interesting.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:23 AM
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17. It's not technically pedophelia if the victim is past puberty.
Since the act appears to be non-consentual, it is indeed likely rape and/or sexual assault. He should be prosecuted. This isn't a "personal issue" when it's not consentual.

But it's not pedophelia. It's not even pedopheila when a 40-year-old or a 75-year-old does something with a 17-year-old. It could be coersion of/unlawful contact with a minor; it could be rape; it could be consentual but illegal (in some states; in others the age of consent is lower).

I mean -- show of hands -- how many of us dated someone with that same age difference when one or both of us were underage? I was a 14-year-old freshman and dated a 17-year-old junior. If we'd had sex, it wouldn't have been pedophelia, even if he reached 18 and I was still a too-young-to-consent 16 (it probably would have been exempted from prosecution under "Romeo and Juliet" laws, which often apply to opposite-sex activity but not same-sex activity).
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:26 AM
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23. Is this a trend?
People joining the Repuke party so that, when they are caught doing something horrible, the party defends them?

There was a mayor of East Cleveland who switched from Dem to Repuke a few years ago . . . and now he is in trouble for taking bribes . . .
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:49 AM
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28. Republicans sure do seem to have a lot of "personal issues"
this is just one among many over the last 5 years with ah..."personal issues"
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:49 AM
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29. Pedophilia comes naturally to them
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-09-05 03:56 AM
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Right wing politicians are "policy-pedophiles"
Edited on Sat Apr-09-05 04:10 AM by SoCalDem

"Successful" pedophiles know all the right words to say, all the right moves.

Over the recent decades, the right wingers have managed to return our country to the days when "Daddy" knew best, and obedience and compliance are expected in return for "safety" from all the bogeymen who lurk, just an arm's reach from us.

Our country has been "groomed", just as the target of a pedophile is groomed.

A casual brushing or the cheek (oooh he LIKES me, he really does...I get a front row seat at the rally)

An "accidental" touch of the neck or chest..(give up some of your rights, and "Daddy" will make you safe..come on over here for this photo-op at your job (tomorrow the lay-off slips will arrive,but hey..live for today )

The pick-up...(It's ok..I know your mom & Dad,even knew your grandparents...in fact, they sent me to tell you that you need to be more self-reliant..stand on your own two feet..save for your own old age..Come on..let's get some ice cream)

The seduction... ("Everyone" knows/says/believes that YOU should see things our way..it's in all the papers...on all the news.. WE are the only ones who know what's best for you.. We LOVE you..Even GOD is on our side.. In fact..God TOLD us to take care of you, and teach you how to love US back...All "loving Daddies" take care of their children this way..Okay now.. Go out there and spread our message..you want "Daddy" to love you, don't you??)

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This right wing "grooming" tactic is so reminiscent of how pedophiles operate, that it's scary.. Slowly over time, they have managed to get normal. thinking people to "give it up" to cultish, smooth-talkers who have only self-gratification at their center.

Anyone who sees that smirky grin can only imagine the thoughts inside that evil brain.

Deception is deception, and whether it's a smarmy guy who wants sex with a child, or a grown up politician who wants to fleece old people out of their life savings, the tactic is the same...

Convince the person that you truly care for them

Make them believe that ONLY YOU can help them/love them/protect them

Get them to want YOUR pleasures/desires/well-being to take precedence over their own

Make the "targets" think that "they" are special/chosen..and have a "secret" relationship..and have special knowledge that others do not


Our government has done metaphorically , to us, what all pedophiles do, and we (about half of us anyway) have just given in. We have relinquished (or are in the process of relinquishing) the very things that made us a great nation.

We have become suspicious of everyone EXCEPT the abusers..we have willingly turned over rights and freedoms that predecessors bought for us, with their blood..

We have looked at the "shiny" and have become mesmerized by it. We got into the car/let them into our beds, and in the process have lost our souls.

A new flat screen, an SUV, a McMansion (for the few who give in) are somehow "worth" the fact that some people who used to be able to support a family, no longer can...that old people might prefer death to old age...that single Moms have it even harder than ever..that getting sick might wipe a family out financially...people who are poor, yet rail against unions that would give them a better standard
of living..people who claim to hate lawyers, yet never question why rich folks have lawyers on retainer 24/7

Pedophiles ruin a lot of lives before they finally get caught, and our only hope is that people will finally start to realize that they have been taken in by these criminals, and soon..

"Daddy" is a pedophile, and unfortunately, he wants ALL the children.

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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:51 AM
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32. Helped them?
With a hand in their pants! :puke:
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