BREAKING: Pat Robertson tries to Explain himself..."I was Misunderstood."

[mopaul]

he said 'taking out' doesn't mean killing him, he was miscontrued.

watch it here, if you can stand it.

http://www.cbn.com/

[Beware the Beast Man]

1. Yeah right.

He is an unrepentant asshole; even when he does "retract" a statement, he's never truly been sorry.

[QuettaKid]

6. Fine....I say we "take out" Pat Robertson. just sayin'

...

[tomg]

65. I think Robertson used a version of my letter

on air, and my head is about to explode. Last night, I posted a letter to CBN, and posted a copy to DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1719323&mesg_id=1722100

Here is a copy of the letter:

Dear Pat

I posted under "other" because you don't have a "political assassination" category. While I have a pretty good idea that Torquemada might support you, and I think George Fox might come down hard on the other side, how about - now this is a tough one - Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Would he agree that its just okey dokey to knock off foreign political leaders we don't like. Remember, he did shift from pacifism to involvement in the planning of the Hitler's death. At the same time, he was a German clergyman who put his own life on the line. While you can use the Beatitudes, you can't rely on the Monroe Doctrine. You may start now.

Today, Robertson opens up by calling on Dietrich Bonhoeffer - it is in at about 4 minutes of the video. Bonhoeffer was truly one of the great, and I am ill about this.

[ChowChowChow]

2. Here comes the spin

And the Bushies still haven't commented and condemned his rhetoric. What jerks.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. Yes They Have

I saw it in the Chicago Tribune this morning a sidebar piece on the jump page of this article. The Robertson story was Page 1, and continued on either 14 or 16. On that page, there was a sidebar of the reactions, which included statements by Rumsfeld and others. He specifically said (i'm quoting from memory) "Our military doesn't do that sort of thing." Another, i forget who, said Robertson is a private citizen who has a right to an opinion, but that the administration does not sanction or approve of his opinion.

The Professor

[SpiralHawk]

33. "our military doesn't do it; our clergy does." - Rummy

We would never stoop that low. We don't need to. We have extremist radical Christian "soldiers" to issue the fatwas for us.

And now, we return you to the regularly scheduled CRUSADE

[ProfessorGAC]

36. Great Point

Of course, Rumsfeld doesn't run the CIA or NSA. THEY might do that sort of thing. At least they used to.
The Professor

[patcox2]

39. Professor, read the statements very closely, they distance, but don't

condemn. I was struck by that, reading Rumsfelds words yesterday. These evil weasels are always very careful with words, like when Bush said, speaking of Rove, that he wouldn't have anyone guilty of breaking the law working for him, a careful backing off from his earlier statement he would fire a leaker.

[ProfessorGAC]

41. No Argument

But, the poster said the Bush's haven't said anything about it. Distancing one's self is as close as professional politicans come to condemning. They strongly avoid burning bridges with existing allies. For a Rummy to say anything negative apropos those comments is about as near a condemnation as we're going to see.
The Professor

[Cha]

40. Here's a quote..

"On Tuesday, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Robertson's comment was "inappropriate" and the United States did not agree with him, but neither he nor anybody else condemned the comment. Both McCormack and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Robertson was a private citizen stating an opinion.

"We don't consider that it is enough just to say that this is a private citizen with an opinion," Alvarez said."

Like Ambassador Bernado Alvarez says..It's not enough!

[ProfessorGAC]

43. I Agree With Alvarez

But, i'm saying that they did respond with as close to a condemnation as this crowd is ever going to issue.
The Professor

[Hugin]

3. This'd better be good...

As my parents often said.

[Hubert Flottz]

Rush Limbo Revisited?

Same old Shit Different Asshole!

[achtung_circus]

4. I see.

So Robertson wants the US to DATE Chavez?

Will the US get lucky?
Will they get to 1st base?
Is tongue involved?

[wake.up.america]

16. Right, I say we take out Hugo...

invite him to a fine restaurant, have him come to my place, meet the family, introduce him to my kids...

[EnfantTerrible]

45. Tongue...

would imply ROUNDING first and heading for second.... don't ya think?

[calico1]

5. Hmmmm...

So he meant "take him out to dinner?" Or to a ballgame or something? What did he mean when he said "take him out?"

[ohio_liberal]

15. Buy him some peanuts and Cracker Jack

Pat doesn't care if he ever comes back. :D





I lost it there for a second. Pardon me. :evilgrin:

[Arkansas Democrat]

7. I was wondering how long it

would be before he tried to say his statement was taken out of context! Now he's backing himself into a corner even MORE by lying on top it!!

[Walt Starr]

8. First he advocates breaking the fifth comandment

Then he violates the eighth commandment trying to cover it up.

[Orrex]

17. Old news

He shattered the eighth one long ago.

One hopes that it won't be long before he's Pleading the Fifth rather than breaking the fifth.

[Clark2008]

26. He's probably broken every one of the commandments

but he's too holier-than-thou to admit it.

[deutsey]

9. Yeah, he was so ambiguous

"I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war," Robertson said.

:eyes:

[wtmusic]

54. Now if someone were to make that comment about the president

methinks Secret Service would be pounding at their door in no time.

[JohnyCanuck]

10. So now he's adding another sin, LYING. n/t

[terrya]

11. Bull and shit.

Fuck you, Robertson. We know exactly what you meant.

[Orrex]

19. Exactly

It's not as if he'd been surprised by a reporter and was unexpectedly speaking live on-air; he recorded his screed, as usual, and it was subject to edit and review long before it aired.

To call his explanation "disingenuous" is to miss an opportunity to use the phrase "shameless and unmitigated fucking bullshit."

[wakeme2008]

12. Assassinate means to kill

watch him on the second video at BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4178608.stm

[SammyWinstonJack]

20. Oh yeah, I can see how what he said what "misconstrued"

:eyes:

[ClusterFreak]

13. He says taking out Chavez could have meant kidnapping, not killing....

....Listen, you weaselly sack of shit....after commenting on whether or not he could be assassinated, you said "maybe we should go ahead and do it". End of story. Shut up. Apologize and retract or shut your freaking pie-hole.

[Orrex]

24. "Taking out" could also mean "putting on the curb"

As in "I plan on taking out the garbage tonight."

See? It's all a big misunderstanding.

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. How is what he said being "misconstrued"?

So when he mentioned assassination, that wasn't what he really meant? Oh boy! :eyes:

[achtung_circus]

37. Maybe he meant assignation

which ties in with the "taking out" fantasy.

[EnfantTerrible]

"Character" assasination...

That's what he meant. Get Turdblossom on it... stat!

[Dhalgren]

18. How on earth can anyone respect and/or support this lying

piece of shit?! He is on fucking tape! He says flat out that the US should assassinate Chavez! Now he's lying about it as though no one had copies of his goddamned tape?! A fool, a liar, and a criminal..oh, yeah, and a true Christian! :puke: :puke:

[Hubert Flottz]

22. Being a fat cat in the GOP...

Means never having to say you're sorry!

[0007]

23. Pat Robertson is a disgrace to mankind......and anyone that backs

this cretin is the lowest.

[SteppingRazor]

25. Maybe he'd even have a point -- if he had said "taking out"...

pity that he used the word "assassinate." It's a bit less ambiguous.

[Jacobin]

32. Yeah, but but but 'assassinate' was 'taken out of context'

In the context he used that word, he only meant to send him flowers and chocolates.

:eyes:

[tabasco]

27. My only hope in this recent Robertson incident ...

is that some more people take the time to learn that Robertson really is a scumbag phony preacher rich prick criminal that wants to be a king. He has supported gangsters and other criminals to make $$$$$$$$$$. The only thing Robertson worships is $$$$$$$$ and power.

We have known this for a long time. Robertson is just another anti-democratic CEO on the wrong side of history.

[peekaloo]

28. Take him out on a "man-date" maybe?

[Jacobin]

29. He used the word "assassinate", so he's just lying once again

Is lying breaking one of those commandments he preaches about?

[goodboy]

30. he said .."we oughta go ahead and do it (assassinate) him"

[jojo54]

31. There's GOOD CHRISTIAN MORAL VALUES for ya Pat!!

Teach your children well.......

[raccoon]

34. What a lying POS. nt

[Jacobin]

35. Pat's happy now. He can play the victim, which is his favorite

part to play.

He'll whine and cry and spew silly blatherings in that halting disgusting voice of his and close his eyes and 'pray to gawd' and his flock will come ever closer and send him more money, and praise him for just 'saying the truth'.....

It will be a disgusting spectacle to behold

[terrya]

38. Of course.

I'm sure tonight's "700 Club" will be him stammering and teary eyed over how he was "misunderstood", followed by a teary eyed prayer to his God.

Fuck that. And fuck him.

[Ganja Ninja]

44. I'm sure he'll find time to ask God to smite everyone that ...

misunderstood him. OK well maybe not smite but just "take us out".

[Toots]

46. Yes and he can lead a prayer for God to take a few Supreme Court Justices

as well. I am sure in his prayer to God he meant Take out in the same vein as he "says" he meant about Chavez. He is a hateful man who leads a National Cult and the only way to deal with his followers is using methods for stopping cult followings.

[TK421]

42. Maybe he meant taking him out for dinner

:sarcasm:

[Kagemusha]

47. Kidnapping also falls under "international terror".

If he was proposing a Panama campaign no one would bat an eye. But no, he wants something cheaper than that. To take a leader out.

He's just damn lucky he's in a country so determined to kiss his butt.

[Rob H.]

48. Rumsfeld's reaction wasn't any better

On assassinations, Rummy said something like, "We don't do that sort of thing, it's illegal." Y'mean, like, oh, I dunno, violating international law by waging a preemptive war against Iraq?

He also said Robertson is a "private citizen" and is entitled to his opinion. I'm a private citizen, but somehow I'm not on TV three times a day offering my opinion to rougly a million people in the U.S. alone. "Private citizen," my ass.

[Skidmore]

49. If he only hadn't mentioned those "special forces."

Misunderstood, my tush.

[berni_mccoy]

50. Um, he used the words "assassination" and "assassinate"

I'm not sure how you could misunderstand that...?

Here are his exact words:

"I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

[mopaul]

51. how clintonian!

[JHB]

52. Where is it exactly, mopaul? I can find "the Harry Potter Controversy"...

...and "Pat's Protein Pancakes", but no backpedaling.

And if he's trying to say that "take him out" doesn't mean kill him, what does he have to say about "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it." (spoken in the same paragraph as the "take him out" line (which DOES give that line a strongly implied meaning).

[mopaul]

55. go to their website and click 'watch now' if you don't mind vomiting

http://www.cbn.com/

[JHB]

59. Thanks...

...but I'll have to wait 'til later. I only enjoy my breakfast in one direction, so I'll have to wait until it's all the way down.

[Midlodemocrat]

53. So now 'taking out' doesn't mean killing?

Did he mean to say 'taking out to dinner'?

What a complete POS.

[smartvoter]

56. What a load of crap. Now he wants to play the victim. Coward. nt

[Rainscents]

57. Robertson, you're a lying F&%king POS!!!

[NoSheep]

58. Can you tell me how to find it on that site?

[mopaul]

60. click 'watch now' it's the daily show. in the first two minutes i think

[NoSheep]

64. Thanks.

[stanwyck]

61. Bush has given the wingnuts this latitude

Bush continually refers to his election as a mandate. He claims to be "giving the people what they want". And he has repeatedly aligned himself with "people of faith". He has given Robertson, Santorum, DeLay, and the other zealots a forum that more rational conservatives would not have. His father, for example, would not have embraced, literally, people dripping with contempt and hatred for other Americans.
Bush has given these people open season on Americans and the world. He is reaping what he has sown.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

62. Pay no attention to the video, what I REALLY said was....

Anything but what I was recorded saying.

Thou shalt not LIE either, Patsy.

[Enraged_Ape]

63. It's the repug way: Lie blatantly about what you obviously said...

even though you're on video and audio tape saying it, and your ill-advised blather was broadcast not even 48 hours before.

The Republicans really do believe that if they lie repeatedly with impunity, that the lie will eventually come true.

Such is the legacy of the Reagan and Bush (I and II) administrations.

Well, I got news for ya, Marion: It didn't work for Rush Limbaugh just recently, and it ain't gonna work for you. We're tired of lies.

[Zenlitened]

66. "If he (Chavez) thinks we're trying to assassinate him...we should do it."

That's on videotape, Mullah Robertson.

Asshole, liar, coward. This guy's the complete package, isn't he? :crazy:

[hyphenate]

67. What a dick

Same kind of fucked up apology he gave after his comments on 9/12/2001. When the fuck are people gonna get the message that HE's an asshole who should be locked up--permanently.

[booley]

68. Why does this sound familiar?

Oh YEAH!! becuase that's the same excuse he used when he got in trouble for "Totally Concurring" with Falwell over 9-11. And When Hurricanes didn't strike disney world down for having Gay days...

The excuse is becoming a bit thin...