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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:31 AM
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Robertson just said his statement was taken out of context .....
No link yet, just heard him on his 700 club 'CBN' news state that. What a smurf. He spouted some b.s. about 'taking out' could mean kidnapping or some shit, taken out of power (in reference to Chavez) ...... yea right Pat. Tell it to the FBI.

PS: no I don't watch the 700 club, just happened to catch it a minute ago. It's actually a pretty hate filled program I discovered after bout 10 minutes of viewing. No more for me. Peace. :)
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:34 AM
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1. Uhm.. He said "assasinate"
I don't think he was talking about his character.

Now he's lying, just one more commandment broken.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:39 AM
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11. Yea he's blatantly lying now.
I thought I heard him say the word 'Assassinate' yesterday. Thanks for confirming that for me. Damn, another "Limbaugh" you get them on tape and they just blatantly lie, lie, lie, ..... I thought 'the truth was supposed to set you free' what gives Pat? :shrug: Peace.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:46 AM
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23. This is why they need the 10 commandments...
staring them in the face everywhere they go. They can't remember them for more than a few seconds.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:15 PM
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31. Now that's funny
:)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:35 AM
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2. That excuse isn't going to work! MSM has aired the clip of his
statements WAY too many times for ANYONE to believe his statement meant anything but KILL Chavez.

If I remember right, he said "Mr. Chavez thinks America is trying to kill him, well maybe it's time we do just that..."

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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:35 AM
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3. Those Poor Conservatives. If We Could...
only learn to understand their strange and wonderful language. :rofl:

Jay
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:36 AM
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4. falwell claimed his 9-11 remarks were out of context
to which al franken said 'yeah, if you prefaced them by saying ' i'd have to be an idiot to believe...'

i think it applies to pat, too

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:36 AM
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5. As I said before he is a Deceiver nt
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:36 AM
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6. He did use "take him out" as part of the statement, but......
how does he 'splain' this quote:

I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:44 AM
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20. Yeah, Walt. That's the quote that stuck in my mind, not the "taking out"
bit. He is a liar. There is no other way to interpret what he said. He advocated the murder of a foreign leader. That's what he said. It's on tape. He has committed a crime. Let me guess, the CorpoMedia is only playing the "taking him out" quote, eh?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:46 PM
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42. Yeah, The Old Pretend Everyone Is Talking About Something Else
strategy.

The outrage is over the quote where he directly, unequivocally endorses assassinating Chavez, yet he's pretending everyone is outraged about some OTHER quote where he said "take him out" instead of assassinate.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:36 AM
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7. they just love to say that when they're busted
like anyone would believe it.

"What I meant to say is, we coulda taken him out on a hot dinner date and given him a bouquet of assflowers to remembrance us by. I just can't believe the first thing that comes to mind whenever someone uses the word "assassination" in a sentence has to do with the involuntary termination of someone's life!!!! Oh poor me, poor misunderstood me. It's the evil liberals doing this you know."

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:36 AM
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8. actuaLLy, it was taken out of context
the MSM Left out the part before that statement: "i'd have to be a reaL fucking nutjob to say"*


* ripped off from aL franken.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:38 AM
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9. LOL n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:38 AM
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10. Nice try!
He should quit while he's behind.
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pauldavid Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:39 AM
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12. Deleted by poster
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 11:42 AM by pauldavid
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:39 AM
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13. BS, can't believe he's trying the "out of context" ploy
I saw the brief play of his statement on the news, and they replayed even more of it on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart last night.

He said Chavez thinks we're trying to assassinate him, and so we should go ahead and do it. Cheaper than war. That is what he said. He didn't just say it once. He didn't even just say it twice. He was quite specific; NOTHING was out of context. He used the royal "we" in terms of the US, clearly indicating it was an official action he was espousing. Clearly indicating he believe it should be US policy, and in the same sentence as "assassination"

Clearly a man very close to the president. And so...clearly very good at lying.

I'm, ah, I'm really sorry, Christians everywhere, that a man that says he represents you does such a terrible, murderous job of it. Such a shame this man isn't just immoral, but is a bald-faced liar. So many people look up to this man.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:40 AM
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14. This is what the man actually said!
I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:45 AM
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22. Word for word, yes. Thank you. Out of context...he's out of his mind
And it wouldn't have been so bad if that'd been ALL that he said. It's bad enough, but that isn't even everything.

He said more than just that one sentence, but I think he's hoping the single-sentence denial is all he'll have to deal with. And in this media climate, he just might well get away with it.

If need be, catch The Daily Show rerun of last night, if they're rebroadcast in your area. Even they didn't have time to air everything he said, but they played more of it than the news did.

"we really ought to go ahead and do it"

Not just ought to. REALLY ought to. Emphasis.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:49 PM
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34. Robertson blames AP for content taken out of context? hey, bendover!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:48 AM
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25. He also said "We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one,
you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." NOTHING COULD BE PLAINER THAN THAT!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:54 PM
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45. Yeah, but that all depends on the meaning of the word "it"
I'd love to shove that into Ayatollah Pat's fatwa mouth.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:40 AM
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15. Bullshit. Too late. I heard it over and over, no subtlety there. -eom
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:42 AM
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16. Media Matters has the video:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006

See for yourself the "context" in which it was said.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:51 AM
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27. Hmmm...notice how many times he mentions we'll still get oil even
if we take him out? Obviously, that's the most important part...we still get our oil if we kill him and don't have to deal with a guy who doesn't like Dear Leader.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:46 PM
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33. Jon Stewart mentioned that
Said he wasn't violating the Fifth Commandment: "Thou shalt not kill...if the oil will stop. Otherwise, kill away!"
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:43 PM
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40. The one and only time I wish I had cable...
I wish I could get Comedy Central! All I can watch is the snippets at Crooks and Liars. Anyone get this Jon Stewart bit?
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:43 AM
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17. But who knows better than Robertson about taking things out of context?
Is only he allowed to keep the parts of the Bible that enable your hate-filled agenda, and conveniently leave out the rest? At best, his own approach to the Bible is coming to bite him in the ass. But we all know what he meant.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:43 AM
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18. Trent Lott tried the "context" thing, too, Pat. Give it up.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:43 AM
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19. I've seen the clip several times.
And it's quite clear that he most certainly is referring to assassination when he used the words "taking out". He refers to it in the context of avoiding any military action.

I'm getting angrier and angrier listening to this desperately sad excuse for a human being and his attempts to weasel out of the shitstorm he himself has created.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:44 AM
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21. He puts the "ass" in assassinate
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:47 AM
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24. He was only voicing
the policies of this administration, who also lie about them when they are caught.

What business is it of the US to 'oust' a democratically elected president of a sovereign nation? Does he think that makes it any better?

He's getting a bad reaction because he wasn't supposed to spill the beans, imo.

Meantime, Chavez is growing more and more popular among his people. The election in Venezuela was one of most legitimate anywhere. How dare this radical cleric think he has any right to interfere with the choice of the people of Venezuela.

And I want to thank Chavez for his concern about the the poor people of the US. Our own government sure doesn't care about them. Bush should be as popular here as Chavez is in Venezuela. The more they threaten him, the worse this country looks and the more the people of Venezuela will rally around Chavez.

Now, if we had a different president, Chavez is more than willing to sell us oil. What is he ranting about 'it's cheaper than going to war' with Venezuela? He is a liar, but then, we knew that. He's also a friend of the dictator Taylor, this man needs to be exposed.

I don't understand how he has gotten away with his nefarious dealings with seedy characters for so long while pretending to be a 'man of god'. Hoepfully this will end his long, deceptive career of programming the minds of Americans (some of whom were in my own family, I regret to say, although no longer, but not before he got lots of money from them).
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:19 PM
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32. Just prior to Robertsons 'statement' today .....
on his program (the 'taken out of context' statement) his 'CBN News' thingy ran a story on Chavez, it was so hate filled, distorted from reality .... even went further than 'FAUX' would have done, if that is possible. Good thing you didn't see it. You would of been fuming. The Propaganda runs deep I have discovered at the 700 Club. And to think people actually watch and believe this shit, brainless, soul-less beings they are. Sad. Peace. :)
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:56 PM
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37. How on earth does he keep his TAX EXEMPT status w/the IRS?
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 01:06 PM by Justitia
How much more blatant can this crackpot be???

Why are our tax dollars making up for what he doesn't pay, and he is allowed to freely espouse murder of heads of state on airwaves across the globe????

I know the IRS is a function of our dysfunctional current administration, but seriously - how does he get away w/this shit w/out paying a dime in taxes????

On edit: nevermind, I just found the answer to my own question:

http://www.cursor.org/stories/selfdealing.htm

:puke:
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:39 PM
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43. 183 thousand into 90 million .......
His God is $ ...... plain and simple. Thanks for that link. Peace.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:48 AM
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26. It always amazes me how these guys can say something ...
and then 24 hours later issue a flat denial. It shows just how confident they are in their control of their cult like followers.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:55 AM
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28. Yes. The context, a sixteenth century mind in a 21st century suit.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 11:56 AM by Burried News
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:00 PM
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29. "Out of context" is the GOP version of "the dog ate my homework"
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:51 PM
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35. It's like when Rumsfeld or McClellan says, "I understand your question"
as a nice way of saying, STFU and get out of my face.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:13 PM
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30. This makes me think
that something happened that he didn't like, maybe too many people decided to stop their tithing to his little jesus show. I think each day a few more people are seeing the light.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:54 PM
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36. Here's another thread in LBN .....
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:13 PM
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38. Add "bloody liar" to his portfolio of compassionate Christian doctrine...
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kbm8795 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:16 PM
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39. Rush Limpballs must have called him
and offered advice on how to appear convincingly in denial.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:44 PM
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41. Oh, come on now. The 700 Club is hilarious!
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:52 PM
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44. he said:
On Monday's broadcast of the "700 Club," Robertson, the founder of the Christian Coalition and a former Republican presidential candidate, said,


"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. … We have the ability to take him out and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability."
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:00 PM
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46. I think ole Pat better brush up on the Gospels of Luke
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 03:01 PM by mtnester
calculated duplicity will be judged harshly

I wonder if he called Rush to discuss strategy?
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