VIDEO: Bushbot Smackdown! at Anti-Cindy Protest

[TOOLZ]

I went dressed like a Republican to shoot an Anti-Cindy rally by Moving America Forward as their caravan to Crawford stopped in Burbank, CA. I saw a lot of shouting from both sides, but before it escalated into a disruptive press conference, I captured this poignant scene between a gentle anti-war protestor and a rather unglued Pro War Mom. The accusations she makes are ludicrous, and she refuses to listen to what this protester, who went to Baghdad herself to see the war, had to say. It reaches an uncomfortable crescendio as Pro War Mom tries to flaunt the cross she bears.

Just some unedited reality of the people we wish we could reason with to stop the senseless killing of Americans and Iraqis.


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[sabra]

1. TOOLZ, you rock!

reco'd

[jonnyblitz]

2. I just watched that video.

very interesting. :thumbsup:

[hiley]

3. TOOLZ

you do rock!
Thanks

[wtmusic]

4. OMG that nutcase tries to say Iraq was Communist

and drag abortion into the discussion...:scared:

[sakabatou]

81. Did you live in a Communist country

I know you didn't.

[mike_c]

5. wow, that was pretty amazing....

Thanks for filming that, and thanks for posting it. Kicking and recommending.

[TK421]

6. I'm pushing play video, nothings happening

is there something else I need to do?

[TK421]

10. Never mind...there was a lag time and it just came on

[Roland99]

7. "They need our technology"

Hmm...delivered via Smart Bombs, Cruise Missiles, and automatic rifles???

[Roland99]

12. Wow, the logical fallacies employed are too numerous to count!

Those right-wingers are so woefully misinformed and they don't even know it.



Sad.

[Darkhawk32]

20. Have I ever told you how much I hate these people? n/t

[Roland99]

26. I have an ideer. Wasn't it great she went into anti-abortion mode?

:rofl:

[Darkhawk32]

29. I would've said "pro-life", just to shut them down. "A REAL pro-lifer"n/t

[Roland99]

31. Yeah. "I support life *after* death, too. How about you?"

That would have shut her confused mind up in a heartbeat.

[Darkhawk32]

33. It was disturbing when she brought her daughter into it.. "You would've

killed her!"

What a {insert C-bomb}!

[Roland99]

36. No kidding. Go ahead and emotionally scar that little girl.

[Darkhawk32]

38. yeah, no kidding. That was really disturbing to watch. n/t

[buddysmellgood]

92. How about, "God no! George Bush is aborting our soldiers and innocent

iraqis everyday. Who could be for that? Are your for the abortion of innocent Iraqis?

[NoSheep]

8. Can it only be viewed with Quicktime?

[TOOLZ]

11. it is QuickTime...

...if some people don't "do" QT, lemme know, I'll try Windows MediaPlayer or something.

:headbang:

[NoSheep]

16. I can do Real Player and Windows Media

[NoQuarter]

22. If you can downoad to your desktop

QT movies will play in Real Player.

[underpants]

17. I don't do QT

:hi:

[alfredo]

32. You should give it a try,

the quality of the video and audio is very good. I would be willing to wager that much of the news video content from the field was edited using tools that use quicktime(Final Cut Pro)

If I want the content quick, I use real or WMA, but if I want it good, I use Quicktime.

[psychopomp]

39. K-Lite Mega Codec Pack 1.27

It's just about all you need.

And that is all I am going to say ;)

[TOOLZ]

46. WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER VERSION IS UP!

<http://toolz.blogs.com/>

dig it

[leftchick]

63. TOOLZ you are way COOLZ!!!

and what a fantastic site! That video was awesome and the peace woman was dynamite!

An the pro-war woman and child dress up like uncle fucking Sam???

:rofl:

Thank You!

:hi:

[NoSheep]

70. Thank you so much for this. I've wanrted to watch it all day! Holy

good grief I can't believe how stupid those people are. Three cheers for the woman in green who managed to stand there long enough to try to have a conversation with them.

[RageFist]

9. Sad, certainly,

but not surprising...smoke and mirrors. Anti-war MUST mean pro-abortion. And to say that the anti-war woman would have destroyed her<--(freeper nut job) daughter if she was pregnant with her<--(the daughter) is insane. Just goes to show that when you try to rely on principle when speaking to these people, they fall on conjecture and false arguments.

[imax2268]

13. What a nut job...

that women is a bright and shining example of how narrow minded the Bush lovers are...they have no clue as to what is going on in Iraq...they are told that everything is peachy keen and that's all they want to believe...

BRAINDEAD MORONS...!

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. Unbelievable!

I can't believe that mother who pulled her daughter into this claiming the anti war protester would have had her destroyed during pregnancy! :wtf: :banghead: The rest was pretty amazing also. Like they ganged up on her, safety in numbers, uninformed as they were, even.

[proud patriot]

15. What a trip

they are so misnformed , it's sad .

[corkhead]

19. not sad, frightening

these idiots put * in office

[mshasta]

18. what a dum ass repug......

what d f#%$$@@ the kid has to do with this occupation in iraq?:crazy: :grr:

[rman]

21. Note the RW framing: "Do you *believe in* abortion?"

Also note the questions regarding the anti-war protester's trip to Iraq:
"Who payed your way?"
"Who did you represent?"

[TOOLZ]

24. Exactly--

That struck me as well when she said it. "Do you believe" in abortion? It exists, it's not something like evolution which you can simple disprove with intelligent design...

It's all about declaring you have "beliefs" and therefore you are superior. Like her reaction to when the lady says she doesn't have kids. She laughs of the protester like "YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND OR BE RIGHT ABOUT ANYTHING BECAUSE I AM SUPERIOR BECAUSE I PROCREATED AND CARE MORE ABOUT CHILDREN AND NOTHING COULD BE MORE NOBLE AND THEREFORE I'M RIGHT ABOUT WAR, TERRORISM, PATRIOTISM, AND BUSH BECAUSE I HAVE KIDS."

[KansDem]

60. Yeah, the pro-war lady was bitching about not having an audience

...when the other lady was momentarily distracted by some people moving something behind her (it looked like the ant-war person was trying to get out of the way), accusing her of not paying attention while the pro-war lady was offering her "opinion," then she burst out with an f*cking ACCUSATION about her daughter and how the ant-war lady would have not let her live?!?!?

So let's see, it's "pay attention to my opinion since you value the first amendment so much, then when I have your attention, I'll blast you with a unprovable accusation!!!" That must be how the right-wingers work.

on edit: How do you dress like a Republican?

[TOOLZ]

69. what the protester was stepping around..

The group Moving America Forward was carting some of the poles and signs for the press conference they were about to hold, and she was politely stepping out of their way. For this the Pro War mom jumped all over her.

For my "don't worry, you can talk to me" attire, see previous post "Office Casual."

[Historic NY]

23. Whoa.......support Iraq & the troops and prevent abortion...... ????

These people are way out there.

[Tyranny_R_US]

27. Face it they love rambling...

[Tyranny_R_US]

25. Toolz do you have video of this and/or know who this woman is?

(The freep pig in the denim jacket.)

Video: http://media.putfile.com/HighBand

[TOOLZ]

34. Hell yeah I got them on tape

Man, those two women were amazing. I put the other mom's clip up because it didn't require editing, but I shot much more of these two ladies, and they were even more gone. I'm just trying to get other work done, by the blogosphere just keeps me hooked...

Man, I might have to throw some of their footage up now.

[Stirk]

42. See the way she covers the other woman's mouth? I've seen that

so many times from pro-Bush demonstrators. They do it ALOT. I've *never* seen an anti-war protester do that.

Right-wingers want to silence opposition. They do not want debate.

[TOOLZ]

43. Yes, they swarmed their signs with the Support the Troops signs

and kept swarming around a woman who had a sign "DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC." Others cheered and sang "God Bless America."

I mean, is it just me, or is that really fucked up?

[wtmusic]

57. Who is the antiwar woman in the video?

If she was in Baghdad before the war, she may be affiliated with Voices in the Wilderness

[mshasta]

28. how did you dress like a repuke?

did you wear an adequate amount of flags around you?:scared:

[TOOLZ]

35. office casual

blue Oxford (TUCKED IN!), Chinos, short hair. Your basic Young Republican meeting attire.

much more interesting than yelling at them from across the street...though we always need that...

[mconvente]

30. Great video

Shows the truth asshole nature of fucking Freepers. That lady was just having a quiet and respectful protest, and of course the asshole Freepers start bullshitting about everything.

[glitch]

37. I think we'll find that mad cow disease is far more prevalent than we ever

imagined.

[novak goes postal]

40. Thank you TOOLZ

Great Video.... THE HATE IS SO THICK YOU COULD CUT IT WITH A KNIFE......This issue is getting very smelly... I wonder if Pat Robertson dumb remarks about Chavez were invented to take the heat off Bush.... OH NO I forgot Robertson is really that dumb and hateful.... but an "excellent Christian" Those people are all nuts.....

[Catherine Vincent]

41. That sure was a brave woman to mingle among all those

democracy hating Bush groupies. She was lucky to get away from there alive. And that woman that brought up abortion was just pathetic.

[mnhtnbb]

44. No wonder the country is in deep doo-doo

What an amazing tape. Thanks for posting it.

I wish the "protester" would have had the presence of mind when the flag-waver started in on her abortion deal, to ask her whether she thought there was a relationship between American obesity and American greed.

Wouldn't you loved to have seen that 'conversation'.

The problem is these repukes run around spewing their "facts" which are nothing more than repuke propaganda. You cannot have a conversation with people who are hell-bent on having a closed mind. You would expect someone with an open mind to have wanted to pick this woman's brain who had been to Iraq and seen first-hand, and talked, first-hand, with Iraqis and soldiers. My God, what an opportunity. But no, these flag wavers have all the answers (Rush told them so) and God forbid anyone should destroy their confidence with any other information not filtered through the repuke brainwashing machine.

These folks have got to be marginalized. I cannot believe they are the majority.

[Hobarticus]

45. Damn, she rendered that Bushbot speechless...

Stars n' Stripes just stood there blubbering.

[derby378]

47. They cannot be reasoned with

Instead of letting that America-hating Bushbot smack the protester down, we need to smack her kind down.

[TOOLZ]

48. Okay--who's going to post this on Free Republic??

Someone should know how to set this off and make them livid and make me bleed bandwidth overage charges. I would be curious to see how they defend the Pro War mom and dissect the protester. And, ultimately, assail me somehow.

[progressoid]

49. Wow, these people not only drink the KoolAid they are mixing it for

the next generation. Yikes.

[TK421]

50. Great video! Now my blood pressure is up

I would love to gouge that bitches eyes out. Did you ever notice that most people who dress up like the flag are bugshit insane?

[Nightjock]

51. Just wondering

What is the answer to the idiot who replied:

"Did you see the Iraqi constitution? It says the oil belongs to Iraq."

Otherwise, that was very scary. I was frightened for the woman in the middle of that insanity.

[TOOLZ]

52. he then said something like, "then why is gas so expensive--"

--if we got all the oil?"

Duh, who do you think is charging us for it?

[leftchick]

64. good lord what a moran

:rofl:

[proud patriot]

56. I would answer that with

"Halliburton recorded a 350% increase in profits this
year , why are you defending those who profit off of
war and dead Americans?"

Which is why I shouldn't be in the middle of
a crowd of bush supporters .

[wtmusic]

58. Here's how to answer it: it's a lie

not a word about oil in the Iraqi constitution

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/health/content/shared-gen/ap/Middle_East/Iraq_Constitution_Text.html

Lie. Lie. Lie.

[magellan]

97. Oh yes, Iraq's oil belongs to Iraq

But Halliburton is in charge of it. And if memory serves, wanted thief and Bush** associate Ahmed Chalabi (aka Iraq's Oil Minister) has already cut a deal to sell it to the US, Spain, France and Turkey. The Iraqis, as a people, have had no say in it.

Rethugs will call this "the spoils of war". Iraqis call it theft.

[no_to_war_economy]

53. love the fetus BOMB the Iraqi babies

those people are sooooo entertaining

[Iris]

62. "30 million unborn babies murdered every year"

Wow. Those abortion factories are working overtime given that each year only about 6 million women become pregnant.

Loved the way the War Mom turned her back on this woman just because she doesn't have kids. And then presumed to know what the woman would have done had she found herself unexpectedly pregnant.

[Helga Scow Stern]

54. Two reactions: admiration

for the one who stood there so calmly while others tried to attack. And sorrow for those deeply misguided who cling to these lies so pathetically. Somehow, it's heartbreaking.

[redacted]

55. Thank you Toolz! Remarkable video--recommended!

[Catrina]

65. Yes, thank you

I admire the fortitude of those who can stand being that close to them.

Since their talking points are limited, we know what they are.

If I do ever confront them, I will bring with me (aside from enlistment forms) pictures of the dead Iraqi children so that when a nutcase like that brings up abortion she will be forced to answer the question 'why do you support the killing of innocent children? Life doesn't end at birth, you know!'

Plus, her assumption that all war opponents are for abortion? I would also ask how come the abortion rate has gone up under Bush, went up during Bush Sr.'s admin. and fell during the Clinton administration? The Clenis saved millions of fetuses!! What do they have to say about that?

The last time I said that to a rightwinger, it shut them up ~ so I asked for a comment! 'How come abortion rates fall under Democrats and rise under Republicans, particularly Bushes?' Didn't get a comment, just silence.

It's good to keep a record of their insanity ~ when we look back on this period and try to explain it to future generations, we'll need proof of the insanity, imo.

[PatrioticLeftie]

59. Nice job

Did you actually talk to any of the RWs? Maybe introduce a little common sense to them?

[Iris]

61. dupe - self-deleted

[darkism]

66. Freepers are so vitriolic and hateful, and we handle it with pure class.

It's plain to see in this video. It took three pukes to gang up on this person and she STILL owned all three of them. Recommended!

[kwolf68]

68. Really

And it's why you will never see me on the lines. Although i'm working on how to deal with people like this -getting practice talking to my cliche' mongering mother.

[titoresque]

67. that was great!

these people are crazy! Why do they argue abortion and advocate the killing of innocent Iraqi children all in the same breath???? Fucking nut jobs!!!!!

[Skittles]

89. because in their tiny little minds, Iraqi children simply do not count

they are brown, you know, and "over there". Think about it - these conservative assholes actually buy into that bullshit about fighting the war on terror "over there" so we don't have to fight it "over here". Clearly Iraqi children are not part of this equation - to conservatives, they simply do not exist.

[evilqueen]

98. they forget about london, madrid,...

Attacking Iraq after 9/11 made about as much sense as attacking Mexico after Pearl Harbor would have.
(And yes, I'm aware Kerry said that cuz I'm the one that posted it in his forums right before that debate! *grin*)

[leftchick]

71. This should be on the home page!

:kick:

[zanne]

72. How did you "dress like a Republican"?

Did you wear your underwear outside your pants?

[TOOLZ]

73. blue starched Oxford...

I considered having my BUCK FUSH shirt underneath so I could rip my shirt open like a leftist Superman, but it was too hot out.

see posting above #35

[Karenina]

74. Wow. Just. Wow.

:wow:

[MADem]

75. My, my, my--the seething anger, the trembling voices!!!

You can see the great wall of denial cracking...they're so desperate to maintain their place as supporters of the regime, to gain a power of sorts by association, that they are DESPERATE. They change the subject to avoid hearing uncomfortable facts, they question motives, they use all those distraction techniques....they are like little children, desperate not to have to go to bed at bedtime, who start talking about anything and everything in the hopes that you will forget about the time and not send them off to put on their jammies and brush their teeth.

Only little kids usually do a better job of changing the subject!

[Freedomfried]

76. Fucking flag-wrapped nutcases!

[cureautismnow]

77. Shove Placards of Dead Iraqi Children in Their Faces ...

Ask them if this is REALLY what they support.

Ask the "abortion lady" if she approves of the abortion that Bush-boy paid for after he statutory raped and knocked up little Miss Lohman.

Ask the "macho man" why Bunnypants wussed out on the SH duel challenge.

Ask all these Australopithecines if spilling blood for an Islamic Theocracy is what they REALLY support.

[VOX]

78. To her, supporting the troops means wrapping her head with the flag.

What a * -bot dittohead nutcase!!!! Captured on video: How right-wingers support freedom of speech and expression as guaranteed in the Constitution. :sarcasm:

Outstanding work, TOOLZ -- just tops in every way. :thumbsup:

[Beaverhausen]

79. Excellent!

I can't keep my cool that well when faced with the Bushbots. I have much respect of the anti-war protestor in the video!!!

[Hailtothechimp]

80. Hats off to the woman, the soldier, the cameraperson, and you

The other side is getting desperate. That much is clear.

[blue neen]

82. That freeper woman violated the rights of her own daughter!

That's despicable! Does she not realize that her daughter can hear and understand what she is saying???? "You would have destroyed her!" She stripped her child of her dignity AND degraded her by making that statement.

Disabled people have emotions and feelings just like the rest of us. You DO NOT talk about them as if they weren't standing there! I'd wager that her daughter understands a whole lot more than Mommy Dearest is giving her credit for.

Congratulations Mom! In your self-righteous quest, you just struck a major blow to your daughter's self-worth.

Oh, I am fuming. :grr:

[jillan]

93. I am fuming too.

I posted on this later in this thread.

I am soooooo upset, I don't know what to do!
I have a daughter born with something similar to downs, and I would never never never do that to her!

I am thinking of contacting the ADA.

I have emailed the "contact person" for this tour and let him know that I have those comments on video.

I am sick about this.

[blue neen]

96. You go, pirhana!

Someone needs to advocate for this girl because her mother obviously isn't!

[cornfedyank]

83. using the flag for a hat band... dear abbie, What's going on?

pappy shrub wears it as a coat liner.
shrub signs autographs on it.
i wish i could hear what these *******'s said back in '68 when you wore it as a shirt.

[katinmn]

84. When are these wack jobs supposed to land in Crawford?

They are cause for concern.

I hope we have plenty of Cindy supporters on hand when Bushitler's sheeple hit Camp Casey.

You can't reason with these monsters.

Great job, Toolz!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

85. Great work TOOLZ Thank you!

I don't know how she kept her calm through all that, bless her heart.

[Gelliebeans]

86. They are loony toons

These bush-bots are absolutely nutzo!

They get that right wing hand book and repeat repeat and repeat verbatim.

The connection to abortion was priceless. What gall....

[earth mom]

87. Rethug nutcases. Nuff said. eom

[Freedomfried]

88. She uses her retarded Daughter as a POLITICAL PROP

Her love for Chimpman overshadows her need to protect a handicapped child.

She seemed to need the kid to point to as her "cross to bear"



Edited to de-cap some portions.

[jillan]

90. Someone needs to take that rw woman's daughter away from her.

That poor kid. That mother is using her daughter that has down syndrome as a prop. When she said to you "you would have killed my daughter because she has downs" right in front of her daughter! I was appalled.
How do I get a hold of that lady and let her have a piece of my mind???
I have a special place in my heart for these kids, and I am pissed.

Toolz - you rock! You were awesome. You were calm, and never let those wackos rattle you.

:toast: :toast:

and if you can tell me how to find that lady..... I'll make a video!

[buddysmellgood]

91. WOW! That woman who went to Iraq is cool and tough. Thanks.

[Straight Shooter]

94. Chickensh*t bushbots, ganging up on one woman.

If that woman had mentioned 30 million abortions to me, I would have said, "Sorry, but you're thinking about China. You know about China, don't you? They supply all the goods in your favorite store, Wal-Mart. So, when you shop at Wal-Mart, you're supporting abortions in China."

Not that China has 30 million abortions per year, but they have the highest number and the highest percentage in the world, according to the Guggenheim Institute, IIRC.

[Roxy66]

95. Wow...just wow. How could she do that to her daughter....discusting!!