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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:56 PM
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My Mega-Tinfoil-Hat-Thought of the Year - re: No Child Left Behind
Standardized testing can tell a lot about the way people think. What if the scores are irrelevent, and NCOB is really a National fishing net for easily manipulable kids and teens? Sort of like a Nazi Youth thing.

Oh damn, I invoked Godwin's law in the OP. I guess that's the end of this thread. Still, something to think about anyway.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:58 PM
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1. c.f. New Freedom Commission on Mental Health
Stalin-style "lobotomize the dissidents" plotting. It may well be that they're using the NCLB testing for that "screening."
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:58 PM
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2. Are you kidding? I would be more surprised if...
they were not doing that. Standardized testing has proven worthless.

They are using these tests as the begining of our "file" or whatever you would like to call it.

Total Information Awareness.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:58 PM
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3. My parents are both retired teachers, and
believe it or not, they've had the same thoughts and are becoming more and more convinced of it every day. They never liked standardized testing to begin with, and for good reason, and they're very glad they're now retired. Maybe it isn't such a mega-tin-foil idea.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:34 PM
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8. Perhaps
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 06:34 PM by DS1
One certainly can't accuse the PNAC'rs of not having their ducks in a row. In order to fulfill the agenda, Syria and Iran, they're going to need a good supply of "volunteers". A very good supply. Still, they're constantly putting the original signatories of the PNAC Letter to Clinton in 1998 in places, almost like a chess game.

Eliot Abrams is Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director on the National Security Council for Near East and North African Affairs

Wolfowitz is now the Head of the World Bank.

John Bolton is our Ambassador to the UN, whether we like it or not.

Armitage left one day after Powell resigned.

Bill Bennett lost himself in gambling and drink.

Paula Dobriansky is just all over the freakin place

Everyone knows Bill Kristol

Richard Perle thinks first-strike bombing of North Korean missiles sites is a good idea

Don't even have to link Donald Rumsfeld

and so on, and so forth
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:00 PM
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4. Nah. It's really, REALLY stupid, but not that.
Redstone
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:06 PM
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7. I take your "really, REALLY stupid" and shuffle it under the shadow
of my :tinfoilhat:

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:03 PM
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5. I always thought the standardized testing was useful in one of two ways
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 06:03 PM by jpgray
To undermine public schools and justify lower funding by producing bad scores, or to claim to have solved the public education problem by citing a impressive-sounding % improvement in scores. This latter one happens every few years--I think Ed Koch pulled it in NYC a few times. In either case, the educational value isn't readily apparent.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:06 PM
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6. Mordor needs a way of grading its recruits. n/t
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:19 PM
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9. Things that make you go
hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

Not that tinfoil-ish, imo.....

(Note to self: ANOTHER reason to homeschool!!)


BTW - are you aware of the legislation (underway or passed?) that will REQUIRE mental health screening for ALL public school children. And they can the REQUIRE that the child be given the drug THEY think best.... (I may have some of the details slightly askew but the jist is there.... ) think about it - you're gonna let "those people" test YOUR kid and PRESCRIBE meds - even against YOUR (the parent's) wishes.....??

I think not.


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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:35 PM
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10. Studies in England prove that standardized testing reduces motivation
It's part of the dumbing down process.

I'm trying to find the link. The story was from Britain about 2 years ago.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:47 PM
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11. Nah, 'New Freedom' is for that. This is about pocketing taxpayer
money, silly.

Crime member Neil Bush is into the 'testing' business these days.
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