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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:50 PM
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Just an FYI post about "Echelon"
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html

The URL above is a decent place to start getting educated about Echelon. Hopefully in the creeping fascist environment we live in, that we won't have to get paranoid about our communications. If we do, you better read up on Echelon. Just start reading and it will chill you to the bone. Just a helpful FYI here.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:09 PM
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1. Everybody get GnuPG
Gnu Privacy Guard is robust cryptography for the common man (and woman). It uses steel hard public key crypto to ensure private communications. It is doubtful anything short of a *significant* effort by a *significant* organization can break the crypto. It is not realistic that even NSC could mount an effort to break wide-spread use of such strong cryptographic communications.

Public Key Crypto uses a key pair, one private, one public which are related by an extremely complex algorithm which works one direction only (the trap door algorithm). You share the public key with the world and keep the private key secure. Communications to you from outside are encrypted with your public key can *only* be decrypted by your private key. Communications from you to outside are encrypted with your private key and can *only* be decrypted by your public key.

This is secure stuff. Up until Clinton withdrew the restrictions, these programs were considered a munition by the DOD and were under export restrictions. Of course, the code was readily available outside the US; the restrictions only restricted its access from US-based Net sites.

GnuPG is available from the Free Software Foundation:
www.gnupg.org/

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:25 PM
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2. yes, you have to get paranoid about your communications
We're all being snooped. Automatic word filters are used to fish out messages of various kinds and so on. It's a fishing expedition on an unimaginable scale.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:31 PM
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3. Some other similar programs:
Waste: http://waste.sourceforge.net/

WASTE is an anonymous, secure, and encryped collaboration tool which allows users to both share ideas through the chat interface and share data through the download system. WASTE is RSA secured, and has been hearalded as the most secure P2P connection protocol currently in development.

Tor & Privoxy: http://eff.tor.org/ http://www.privoxy.org/

Your traffic is safer when you use Tor, because communications are bounced around a distributed network of servers, called onion routers. Instead of taking a direct route from source to destination, data packets on the Tor network take a random pathway through several servers that cover your tracks so no observer at any single point can tell where the data came from or where it's going.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:48 PM
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4. Brother, Brother Beware!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:53 PM
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5. I saw that one coming!
:hi: Agent Mike.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:03 AM
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6. Hey, ease up on Agent Mike...
he's just doing his job and is a pretty decent Joe once you figure out his quirks. :)

Before you can pry any secrets from me, you must first find the real me! Which one will you pursue?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:33 AM
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8. "veggie?!"
:rofl:
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:14 AM
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7. Fuck that. Why should I go to the trouble?
I was born free.


Article One


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging
the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the
people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for
a redress of grievances.




I will not skulk about in secret like those shit eating worms and maggots infesting our White House.




George W. Bush, from the
U.S. National Parasite Collection


http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/np/systematics/animalpar.htm



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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:09 AM
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9. That's it! I'm moving out of Maryland and maybe even the country!
That George W. Bush thing broke out of the lab and made it all the way to Texas. :wow: :scared:
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