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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:39 AM
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U.S. House congressman describes his elected office as a MINISTRY
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 01:43 AM by Bluebear


... "The picture of marriage is the picture of Christian salvation," said Hostettler, who describes his elected office as a ministry. "Any diminishing of that notion - whether homosexual marriage or any other degradation of marriage (divorce) - is something we must fight in public policy."

Public policy, he added, that is rooted in Scriptural truth....

"Christians make the best citizens because we don't answer just to local magistrates," DeHart said.

Those magistrates - and all public officials - are ordained deacons of God, Hostettler said. He cited the specific reference to civil government in the Bible, and extended the ordination to leaders of all backgrounds.

http://www.courierpress.com/ecp/news/article/0,1626,ECP_734_4025402,00.html
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:46 AM
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1. All public officials
including George W. Bush are "deacons of God"?
That would mean God is one sick son of a bitch.

This is disgusting. But just shows what kind of dementia we are dealing with.

:puke:
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:49 AM
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2. Jesus *g* So Chavez is an ordained minister of god, too, and so is
Castro ;)

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:58 AM
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3. time for a first amendment lawsuit?
i.e. this crap violates separation of church & state.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:02 AM
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4. Or a lobotomy, maybe. These people are predatory.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:09 AM
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6. out of touch WITH reality
Delusion when they start believing this shit...

Pure BS...undiluted...more like minds polluted....
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:24 AM
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12. This is our new reality!
:crazy:
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:07 AM
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5. Geezuz, we have *radical clerics*
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 02:10 AM by TaleWgnDg
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Geezuz, we have *radical clerics* talking in houses of worship directing the "faithful" how to vote in elections? Ummmmmm, isn't this in violation of the IRS code? How about the "Wall of Separation of Church and State" that Thomas Jefferson so eloquently espoused? And, isn't this -- *radical cleric* -- crap what we went into Afghanistan about? You know, in order to get Osama bin Laden "dead or alive?" Isn't that something about 9/11/2001 that Dumbya has been chanting and re-chanting?


Hostettler decries divorce (on demand is as dangerous as gay marriage)


By PHILIP ELLIOTT Courier & Press staff writer 461-0783 or elliottp@courierpress.com
August 24, 2005

(U.S.) Rep. John Hostettler told area clergy that divorce on demand is as dangerous as gay marriage, and pastors' actions will be key to strengthening all Indiana families.

Speaking to an Indiana Family Institute program of about 25 people Tuesday at Crossroads Christian Church, the six-term Republican from Blairsville, Ind., said a greater emphasis of faith in public policy and partnerships with local churches could be the solutions.

(bold-type emphasis added by TaleWgnDg)
http://www.courierpress.com/ecp/news/article/0,1626,ECP_734_4025402,00.html



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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:14 AM
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7. Hostettler is a real piece of work...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/20/AR2005062001194.html

Business on the floor of the House was halted for 45 minutes yesterday after Rep. John N. Hostettler (R-Ind.) accused Democrats of "denigrating and demonizing Christians," prompting a furious protest from across the aisle.

The House was debating a Democratic amendment to the annual defense appropriations bill that would have required the Air Force Academy to develop a plan for preventing "coercive and abusive religious proselytizing."

Hostettler, speaking against the amendment, asserted that "the long war on Christianity in America continues today on the floor of the House of Representatives" and "continues unabated with aid and comfort to those who would eradicate any vestige of our Christian heritage being supplied by the usual suspects, the Democrats."

<snip>

Hostettler was in the news last year when he took a registered Glock 9mm semiautomatic handgun to Louisville International Airport as he was preparing to board a flight to Washington. The congressman, who said he had forgotten he had placed the gun in the briefcase, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and received a suspended sentence.


Couldn't ask for a crazier fella.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:17 AM
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8. Crazy, and making U.S. law!
:crazy:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:25 AM
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9. And most of that law is interesting...
... he's the guy who introduced the Marriage Protection Act in the House. He was also miffed about a court ruling requiring the Ten Commandments be removed from an Indiana courtroom, and started whining to everyone that they should ignore the court ruling--including complaining to Bush:

"Hostettler sent George Bush a letter urging Bush not to enforce the court's order because the order, while consistent with past jurisprudence, 'is inconsistent with both the clear intent of the Framers and the Christian heritage of the United States.' Hostettler argues that Presidents can order the U.S. Marshals office not to enforce court orders if the President happens to disagree with the court's opinion."

http://www.masson.us/blog/archives/2005/06/rep_hostetler_s.html


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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:33 PM
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14. How do these people get/stay elected?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:45 PM
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16. I think his district is in...
... southern Indiana... his likely constituency there are true Bible-belters.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:45 AM
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10. This guy is nuts -- wacho -- crazy
Is this what happened when RayGun opened up the nut houses -- crazies are now running things?

But yet -- this sort of garbage IS being preached by the right wing ministers who are giving christ a really bad name. They are intolerant -- and believe that only THEY know the right way.

And if you get them in an unguarded moment when they think they are speaking to "one of their own" -- they will advocate for the execution of anyone or any group that doesn't believe as they do.

These nut cases have taken over the Republican part in Washington State -- and they are absolutely crazy. I'm sure that the WA variety will say the same things.

In the 1980s the religious wack-job crazies were working and planning and meeting about how to turn the US into a theocracy. So bushie just fell into this -- and he says some of the right words and listens to the very worst of these idiots -- and they think that they are bringing on the end times.

The difference is that now these nuts are willing to come right out and say these outrageous thing -- and no one will put them in the nut houses where they belong. They think they have "god" on their side.

In a way this is good -- because the normal folks who couldn't bring themselves to believe that nut jobs like this guy are being elected -- will hopefully wake the hell up.

They've been planning this take over of the US for over 20 years or more.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:57 AM
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11. This man is certifiable
He and others like him need to be de-programmed and fast.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:40 AM
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13. Yeah, but divorce rates are HIGHER among conservative Christians!
I guess Mr Hostettler can't explain THAT little statistic. It's not gays who are degrading marriage, you fool.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:42 PM
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15. Turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream...

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