Who I think should drop out... (hint: Lieberman)

[Bread and Circus]

Disclaimer: I am pro-Clark and I have an axe to
grind against Dean - but I am going to try to remain
civil...hope it lasts. ;)

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I think Joe Lieberman should drop out because his
numbers in the polls have consistently shrunk by
a great margin. Additionally, he isn't making
ground in any key states.

His campaign seems to be fizzling. It has no pulse.

I know this may be kind of like preaching to the choir,
but I think the field needs to narrow a bit. We need
a more focused, intense dialogue between the candidates.
It's like a school of fish -- difficult to focus on any
one target. Perhaps the only benefit is that it keeps
Bush et al. guessing.

[molly]

1. I think ALL candidates should stay in as long as possible

I support Kerry, but I also like Clark and Edwards.

Things are not looking good for Sharpton and that's a shame. He's lost major players in his campaign.

[Brucey]

11. I agree,

the more voices the better! Even Lieberman brings quite a few people into our camp. Let's keep him in until the convention. Then let's support whoever gets the nom: Dean, Clark, Kerry, Gephardt, Dennis, ... or ?

[sfecap]

2. Who I think should drop out...

Lieberman and Clark...

This is the Democratic Party primaries.

[Bread and Circus]

7. All I will say is that is rude.

[sfecap]

12. ...But your post isn't?

n/t

[Bread and Circus]

16. I don't think my thread is rude....

Maybe I am wrong as some folks here are respectfully
disagreeing about Lieberman. That is fine by me. I appreciate
the discussion.

[sfecap]

20. There's little difference between the two.

Clark is a rethug who is a wanna be Democrat.

Joe is a Democrat who is a wanna be rethug.

They both suck.

They can both drop out as far as I'm concerned...

[blm]

14. And yet you favor a centrist who pushed for deregulating electricity.

Isn't that a BFEE position?

Why do you support someone who has aligned with the GOP throughout his career, and then tell Lieberman and Clark they don't belong? You don't see any hypocrisy?

[OKNancy]

17. Clark, Clark, Clark, Clark, Clark

This thread is about Lieberman

[Kahuna]

23. The Democratic voters will decide who's "Democrat" enough..

Thank you very much, Lil' Buddy. :D

[DoveTurnedHawk]

28. Yawn

Did someone say something?

<PLONK>

DTH

[liberalnurse]

3. I think Clark should drop.

He has really entered this campaign unprepared. He hesitated with sharing his party affiliation during the summer....and now we know why, he was a registered republican. This baggage is damaging to the Democratic party. Sends a message we need a republican general to take *bush down....


Dean 2004

[bicentennial_baby]

5. stop telling tales

"and now we know why, he was a registered republican"

You have no proof, you only know that he recently REGISTERED as a Dem. That dead horse has been sufficiently beaten.

[liberalnurse]

8. Clarks strong affiliation to the republian party

is damaging to the Dermocratic Party. It sends a defeating message. Tells everyone out there we need a republican lite....or we think we do as evidence of his running and democrats fawning and drolling over his "stars".....

He should drop. He could be a member of the Cabinet.....

[Bread and Circus]

9. All I will say is that is rude

[liberalnurse]

13. Sometimes the truth hurts but

it must be processed. We democrats need to run on our own history as democrats. It's too bad he did what he did but we can't change things now. Clark just does not have enough history as a democrat to be trusted. We don't even have his issues platform clearly defined. No track record, only words....

[Bread and Circus]

18. Perhaps...

we should be thankful Clark didn't run as an Independent.

He could have, you know, and he could of run his campaign in
a way that would have sabotaged the left.

But he didn't.

His values and principles are liberal values and principles.
He proudly claimed he is a Democrat and I believe him.

Win or lose, he has helped the Democratic Party thus far.

Wouldn't you agree, LiberalNurse?

[Kahuna]

24. Agreed. The truth..

is sometimes a mutha..

[OKNancy]

19. Actually - no

Clark was not a registered Republican. Clark voted in the Democratic PRIMARIES in 1992, 1996, and 2000. He voted for Clinton twice and Gore in the general election.

BTW this thread is about Lierberman. What do you think about the topic at hand?

[DemPopulist]

26. Where did you hear that Clark voted in the Democratic primaries?

I've never heard that.

[La_Serpiente]

4. Thing about Liberman...

The question is not, "Should Liberman drop out of the primaries?" but "Should Liberman be in the Republican party?".

Anyhow, I am a Dean supporter, and we really don't like Liberman. I also don't hate Clark either. I think he's a valuable asset for the Democratic Party.

Also, if your interested in what Clark's poll number are in New York State, he's at 18 percent and Dean is at 17 percent and Kerry is at 13 percent. It was a poll released today.

And Clark or Dean would beat Bush anyday in New York.

Looks like Rangel has brought Clark a lot of clout in NYC.

Sinceramente,
La_Serpiente

[Booberdawg]

6. Haven't even been any primaries yet! Nobody should drop out!

[poskonig]

10. Logically, probably only Graham.

We have to keep that Senate seat.

[OKNancy]

15. Mixed feelings - because Gore

might mix it up a little if Joe left. Not run for office, but feel more free to speak out. As long as Lieberman is in, I think Gore feels an obligation not to criticize positions that JL holds.

[revcarol]

21. It's unDemocratic to have our candidates chosen by people other than

"the people." Pundits, people on forums, party "leaders": they can all go to blazes as far as I am concerned. I, I, I want to VOTE my choice.

If a candidate chooses to drop out that's one thing. But I think it was dastardly that Dem Party insiders "made" Gore drop out, and I am not going to listen to anyone who says that any of our candidates should drop out.

The only thing that should count is the votes.

[Kahuna]

25. A-Greed!

:thumbsup:

[Bread and Circus]

22. I am not saying he should be forced out....

I guess if I were him I would look around and
say "hey, I guess it aint in the cards for me this
time around". If he wants to continue the good fight,
that's fine. I am cool with that. It's just so
striking that his poll numbers have gotten worse and
worse pretty much everywhere. It should be telling him
something.

I think you either run to win or run to make a statement
(like Sharpton), and I don't think Lieberman is running
for either right now.

Again, I could be wrong and I am heartened that so many
here want to be inclusive as possible.

[dolstein]

27. Why aren't you calling for Graham to drop out?

After all, by every objective indication (poll numbers, fundraising totals, endorsements), his campaign has even less of a pulse than Lieberman's. Could it be that you're calling for Lieberman to withdraw simply because -- GASP! -- you hate the guy?

Lieberman's campaign doesn't really seam to be moving forward. But other campaigns seem to be falling behind faster this his. In addition to Graham, Dick Gephardt's campaign appears to be in serious trouble. They aren't even hinting at what his fundraising totals are for the third quarter, which probably means he'll have had his third disappointing quarter in a row. The AFL-CIO isn't going to endorse him this month, which probably means that they're never going to endorse him. His numbers have fallen as much as Lieberman's.

And what about Al Sharpton? His campaign manager just quit, along with another top advisor. Does he even register in the polls outside of South Carolina?

And what about Mosely Braun and Kucinich? I suppose you'll say they should stay in to add a diversity of viewpoints. But doesn't Lieberman -- the only moderate in the race -- add diversity as well? Oh yeah, I forgot -- DU'ers only believe in a diversity of left-wing views. Moderates need not apply.