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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:30 AM
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Clifford May, PNAC Insider, Asks "Who Didn't Know" Plame Was CIA?
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 09:32 AM by BurtWorm
Spy Games

By Clifford D. May
National Review Online
September 29, 2003
Web site: http://www.nationalreview.com/may/may200309291022.asp

It's the top story in the Washington Post this morning as well as in many other media outlets. Who leaked the fact that the wife of Joseph C. Wilson IV worked for the CIA?

What also might be worth asking: "Who didn't know?"

I believe I was the first to publicly question the credibility of Mr. Wilson, a retired diplomat sent to Niger to look into reports that Saddam Hussein had attempted to purchase yellowcake uranium for his nuclear-weapons program.


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How many DUers knew?




http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies_show.htm?attrib_id=7374


Clifford D. May
President
Foundation for the Defense of Democracies


Clifford D. May is the President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a think tank on terrorism created immediately following the 9/11 attacks on the United States.

Mr. May has had a long and distinguished career in international relations, journalism, communications and politics.

A veteran news reporter, foreign correspondent and editor (at The New York Times and other publications), he has covered stories in more than two dozen countries, including Iran, Pakistan, Sudan, Ethiopia, China, Uzbekistan, Northern Ireland and Russia. He is a frequent guest on national television and radio news programs, providing analysis and participating in debates on national security issues. He writes a weekly column that is nationally distributed by Scripps Howard News Service and he is a regular contributor for National Review Online.

From 1997 to 2001, he served as the Director of Communications for the Republican National Committee. In that role, he was the Republican Party's staff spokesman, and appeared frequently on national television and radio programs. In addition, he managed all RNC communications activities, including long-range strategic planning; press, radio and television services; online services; TV and radio coaching; speech writing; advertising and marketing. He also served as the Editor of the official Republican magazine, Rising Tide.

After leaving the RNC, he was named Senior Managing Director in the Washington, D.C. office of BSMG Worldwide, a firm specializing in public affairs advocacy, public relations and media relations.

Prior to coming to the RNC, Mr. May was the Associate Editor of the Rocky Mountain News in Denver, Colorado. While in Colorado, Mr. May hosted a talk radio program on the dominant station in the region, and produced and moderated an interview program on KRMA-TV (a PBS station). In addition, Mr. May served as host/moderator for the weekly, nationally distributed TCI cable television series, Race for the Presidency, which featured “resident analysts” Dick Lamm, Gary Hart and Don Hodel.

Before moving to Colorado Mr. May spent nearly a decade with The New York Times as a reporter in both New York and Washington, an editor of The New York Times Sunday Magazine and a foreign correspondent. He established the Times' West Africa bureau and, as Bureau Chief, covered more than a score of African nations.

Earlier in his career, Mr. May was the Roving Foreign Correspondent for Hearst newspapers, reporting from a variety of global hotspots. During that same period, Mr. May provided special coverage for CBS Radio News and Bill Moyers' Journal on PBS. Prior to that, Mr. May was Senior Editor of Geo Magazine, and an Associate Editor for international news at Newsweek.

He holds masters degrees from both Columbia University's School of Public and International Affairs and its School of Journalism. He earned his BA from Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, N.Y. In addition, he holds a certificate in Russian language and literature from the University of Leningrad.




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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:37 AM
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1. Cliff May smiles broadly while lying.
That's why he's a top-of-the-line Repug operative.

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:37 AM
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2. may
Mr May also holds a BS in Fraudulent Speaking.
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:25 AM
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13. Wouldn't that be...
...a BS in BS? :)
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NewsTalk Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:38 AM
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3. Thanks for bringing this up again
This Cliff May piece is being bandied about all over the place as proof that, no matter who leaked it, it did no damage and therefore caused no crime.

What none of these dimwitted right-wingers seem to realize is that Cliff May, he of the RNC and right-wing "think tanks" (talk about using a term loosely), might have heard about this "common knowledge" because Karl Rove and his henchmen were spreading it around to EVERYBODY! It was "common knowledge" because the White House leakers wanted it to be -- in utter violation of the law.

Not only is this scandal exposing the Bushies for what they are, it's exposing all of their followers for the mindless drones they are as well.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:41 AM
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4. In other words Classified material is widely distributed by this Administr
Leak hell the bucket has a hole in it. This Administration seems to pass out Classified information like it was candy. Who didn't know indeed? Not who didn't know but HOW did they know Who is telling everybody?
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:41 AM
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5. Ha Ha
You just have to laugh at all the obviously inflamed hemmoroids on all the conservative pundits over The Leak. All of them have trotted out the same tired old line "who didn't know?"

Well, MR. REPORTER, you of all people should realize the line between what is known and what is reported! What a jackass.

I "know" people who work in the National Intelligence Community. The last thing I would ever think of is going to a reporter and telling him or her their names and what they do!

Note to conservative spin machine: Since you haven't figured out by now, Ladies and Gentlemen, YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:43 AM
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6. A few Congressmen, still in the closet,
have worked to have their covers kept on also...
what's worse...announcing you are gay or having
your life put in danger...
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:46 AM
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7. Josh Marshall has a good reply to this:
So how could it be 'common knowledge' that Wilson's wife was CIA, when Wilson himself was just one DC ex-diplomat and an occasional talking head on TV? Think about it. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think the whole argument is just ridiculous on its face when you step back and look at it.

I think what May's comment probably shows is that after Wilson came forward, his enemies started trashing him pretty widely. Even I knew there was a big whispering campaign against him among the neo-cons. Part of that was apparently putting out word about his wife. Folks at the White House probably weren't just talking to reporters but also chatting up fellow Republican insiders and ideological allies. And I suspect one of them mentioned it -- even

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:24 AM
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12. I believe Josh Marshall's theory
It's incredible (almost) that Novak defends himself citing May in today's column. They're basically shouting that people in their circle were passing this info around. Maybe they've hypnotized themselves into believing that their circle is the world and the rest of us are an illusion.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:55 AM
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8. what's Schumer doing hanging out with Defense of Democracies?
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 09:56 AM by cosmicdot
which, ironically, is similar to Dept of Defense ... "DoD" ...

strange bedfellows or all neo-cons?

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

oh, look, there's Richard Perle's name, too ... Donna Brazile ...

... I don't know how some of these people do all the things they are signed up for and likely paid a fee for being, i.e., Director, Advisor .... and, still have quality time ... plus, what some of them are paid by taxpayers to do, like represent the people on the Hill ...

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:05 AM
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10. Hey, folks! Don't miss cosmicdot's post! Look at this site's advisers!
Good one, cosmicdot!

:toast:

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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:56 AM
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9. That does not matter Mr. May. It is still treason. Dumbya Bu$h style!
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 10:23 AM by wildwww2
Can a court appointed resident pardon himself and his whole barrel of maggots? You bet! Anyone with a brain knows that Ollie North and that set of rascals should be making small rocks out of big ones. But no. He is on tv telling history the Bu$h Inc. way.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:08 AM
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11. I heard the most amazing slip of the tongue on cable:
An anchor (I think it was on Fox) introduced Cliff May as being from the Committee for the Defense of the PRESIDENT instead of the Committee for the Defense of Democracy. It was quite the embarassing moment and revealed the truth about the front organization May works for.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:29 AM
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14. he's a key player in the GOPNAC network of professional liars
that's his job description.

Lie.
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