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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:27 AM
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Has everyone forgotten TIA? Total Information Awareness
It is the Government agency set up and headed by Poindexter(a former Reagan Felon)to put out propaganda and smears. Remember Poindexter had classified clearance during Reagan's term and Wilson's wife was there at that time. I suspect this is something from TIA and I think it is no coincidence that they have decided to disband TIA just this week.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:28 AM
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1. I think
they put the kibosh on TIA a couple of months ago.

CAPS II is a different story. Still seems to be alive and well.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:36 AM
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2. Actually the kabosh was put on it last week by congress
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 10:43 AM by Bandit
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5082253.html

The U.S. House of Representatives has approved a spending bill that eliminates money for the Terrorism Information Awareness project, effectively putting an end to the controversial Pentagon antiterrorism plan, which sought to assemble computerized dossiers on Americans.
The 407 to 15 vote <http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2003&rollnumber=513> on Wednesday approved a conference bill drafted by a joint House-Senate committee. The approval vote is the result of a year of fierce lobbying by privacy advocates to eliminate TIA (formerly named "Total Information Awareness") and of Pentagon efforts to defend it against mounting public and congressional criticism. Adm. John Poindexter, who ran the U.S. Department of Defense's Information Awareness Office <http://www.darpa.mil/iao/>, which managed the TIA project, resigned last month.
Sen. Ron Wyden <http://wyden.senate.gov/>, the Oregon Democrat who led opposition to the TIA project on Capitol Hill </2100-1105-981945.html?tag=nl>, said in a telephone interview that the "program that would have been the biggest and most intrusive surveillance program in the history of the United States will be no more. The lights are going out at the office."


Remember this leak came about in July and Poindexter was still there but when things started heating up he suddenly resigns last month. Coincidence? I think not.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:47 AM
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5. Don't start cheering too soon
U.S. Backs Florida's New Counterterrorism Database
'Matrix' Offers Law Agencies Faster Access to Americans' Personal Records

By Robert O'Harrow Jr.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A21872-2003Aug5?language=printer

Police in Florida are creating a counterterrorism database designed to give law enforcement agencies around the country a powerful new tool to analyze billions of records about both criminals and ordinary Americans.


There is also a push by other states to make it a nationwide, state run datbase.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:44 AM
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3. it's supposedly been shut down...at least that's the ..ahem official story
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 10:52 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
but it makes ya wonder where all those UNACCOUNTED billions of dollars that is supposed to have been spent on Iraq War has gone too........ ted kennedy said half of it is unaccounted for ...:shrug:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:45 AM
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4. Read post #2
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 10:46 AM by Bandit
:shrug: What we don't know is amazing. All they did was change the name from "Total Information Awareness" to Terrorism Information Awareness.
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