Clark: If Bush won't adopt winning strategy, we should demand withdrawal

[StefanX]

General Wesley Clark phrases the case for withdrawal the right way:

"If the administration won't adopt a winning strategy, then the American people will be justified in demanding that it bring our troops home."

Read the whole article here:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/26/53325/3578

Clark isn't just saying "withdraw". Clark is saying "Bush needs to do X, Y, and Z to win - but he hasn't and he never will. Since can't or won't pursue a winning strategy, we're better off withdrawing."

As Armando at Kos says: "There you go General. Bush is losing Iraq and will lose Iraq and have to 'cut and run' unless he adopts our winning proposals (which he of course will never do)."

This is the right way to phrase the argument -- especially going into 2006 midterms.

[BOSSHOG]

1. General Clark should suggest that bush

recall General Shinseki from retirement. He was the only one who knew what the fuck he was talking about post 9/11 relative to war in Iraq. Of course since he knew what he was talking about bush and wolfowitz and rove and cheney fired him.

In other words, dumbass, shit or get off the pot.

[BikeWriter]

6. Shinseki wanted to follow the war plan Zinni had drawn up...

Two of our finest generals!

[DinahMoeHum]

2. The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.

The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.

(repeat until 'Puke brains explode)

The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
etc.


:kick:

[BikeWriter]

7. A good mantra, Dinah!

The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.

[DinahMoeHum]

9. Yep, a simple frame we can hang the 'Pukes on in 2006 and 2008.

Link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2037550&mesg_id=2037550

:kick:

[BikeWriter]

13. I recommended your topic and fully agree!

:-)

[ronnykmarshall]

18. I'm in on that!

The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.


The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.


The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.

The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.
The Republicans lost Iraq. The Republicans lost Iraq.

[TahitiNut]

3. There is no legitimate military objective.

Iraq is a law enforcement problem with two distinct components: (1) law, and (2) enforcement. 'Law' fails moral legitimacy when (1) not enacted and supported by an overwhelming majority of those who comply and (2) not applied to all persons. Since the foreign (mostly U.S.) military forces occupying Iraq are not subject to the 'rule of law' in Iraq, they are literally outlaws in a nation with a law enforcement disaster. Furthermore, they are military, not police -- and are a part of the problem, not part of a solution.

[BikeWriter]

8. There lies the crux!

[longship]

4. Gawd! I love that guy.

He's extremely presidential.

[ronnykmarshall]

19. and HOT!!

WOOF!! DADDY!

[KG]

5. what does 'winning' mean?

[DanCa]

10. Clark Clealand 08

Go Wes Go.

[MadHound]

11. Grab a clue Wes, there is no way that we can "win"

Never ever, so the best thing to do is bring the troops home now.

[Roland99]

12. Ok, now *that* is a stance I can stand behind.

:)

[G_j]

14. to WIN??

and who are we asking to do this "winning"? Criminal Rumsfeld? Criminal Bush? Halliburton?

sorry...

[pointblank]

15. The only reason that we are losing...

is because Amurka hating liberals don't support the president.























Sean Hannity told me so.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. "Winning strategy"??? Somebody inform Clark that we lost.

The strategy should be to get the hell out of their country..NOW.

[leesa]

17. What are we winning Wes?? Always the same nonsense!

What do you win when you launch an unprovoked, illegal invasion?