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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:17 PM
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Idle curiosity: What is the procedure by which a nuke is launched ?
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 08:25 PM by steve2470
Isn't there some sort of "failsafe" system so that a maniac President cannot just launch nukes at Iran ? Isn't there a vote of some kind involving the Joint Chiefs of Staff ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Football

Some information is in this article, but nothing on how the exact decision and execution is arrived at.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:19 PM
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1. I certainly hope so!
:scared:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:23 PM
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2. Just think about a bombproof bunker.
Big enough to hold several hundred people (neocons).

Are they crazy enough to create an all-out nuclear war so they can emerge years later and be rulers of the Earth?

Sometimes I wonder.

There are a number of procedures in a nuclear launch, but a psychological exam of the Prez isn't one of the steps. A psycho Prez would be really dangerous.

It's sad that we are even contemplating this. Bush is easily the most unqualified and ill-motivated President we have ever had. I am reminded of incapable monarchs of history. The great difference being nobody ever voted for those morans.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:29 PM
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3. according to this snippet, Rumsfeld and * could make that decision
The National Security Agency is in charge of distributing the daily Gold Codes to the White House, Pentagon, STRATCOM, and the TACAMO aircraft. Use of the Gold Code constitutes an order to execute the SIOP by the National Command Authority (NCA). The National Command Authority (NCA) consists of the President, the Secretary of Defense, or their duly deputized alternates and successsors.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/nuclear-football.htm
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:39 PM
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5. And, here's the other side of that situation....
http://www.cdi.org/blair/launch-on-warning.cfm

Don't know which is worse--a maniacal president or a twitchy sensor somewhere....
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:46 PM
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7. Excellent informative article, thanks nt
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:31 PM
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4. Make sure you have a really long fuse and...
Actually, considering how he handled the "America is under attack" news while listening to the pet goat story, I wouldn't be surprised if the real "football" is nowhere near him. (Cheney gets cranky when he can't have his doomsday briefcase handy).

Maybe Jr's is really a "See-And-Say" mocked up to look like a launch code device ("The General Says: Bombs Away!")

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globol@comcast.net Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:40 PM
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6. Pray there is
but I would not TRUST the people in power today
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 06:29 AM
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8. Not sure, but you know something's up when a host of gov't officials
Edited on Sat Aug-27-05 06:30 AM by no_hypocrisy
become simultaneously "incommunicato" for a few hours as they go to their bunkers. On second thought, throw in a few wealthy business donors.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 07:17 AM
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9. It used to be a "tell me three times" process
But, 40 years ago at least, the process for doing the telling didn't involve any sort of committee decision. Whoever was minding the store could unilaterally order it done.

I think the motive behind that was that, in a MAD nuclear-holocaust situation, there's only a limited amount of time, after which the people with the power to do it might have been demoted to elementary particles. So--no dithering, no consultation, no buggering around. Which isn't to say that the person with the power to shoot couldn't dither, equivocate, consult, bugger around, and even end up doing nothing -- only that there was no requirement that he do so. And of course it was always 'he'.
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