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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 12:10 PM
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California DU'ers: Important strategy for changing recall votes
Many people are friends with people who intend to vote for Arnold.

If your friends work hourly or are in their own business there are two VERY important points to make:


For those in business for themselves the MOST important point to make is this - Pete Wilson DRAFTED reforms to workers compensation in the late 80'. This resulted in a 500 billion dollar windfall profit for Insurance Carriers but DID NOT reduce THEIR workers compensation premiums. IF they are VOTING for Arnold..given that Pete Wilson is pulling his strings, they can expect MORE of the same.

If your friends are PAID by the hour, they need to realize that unlike federal law, Californians enjoy greater compensation due to our overtime laws being stricter than federal laws.

Arnold will move to change this..therefore..they will have to work MORE hours to qualify for overtime.

People CAN still be perusaded to change their vote.

Don't give up.

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 12:49 PM
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1. Problem is, how many people see Davis as being....
the bad person and Ahhnuld as the "DAS GROSS FURHUER" (the great leader)! Arnie has taken special interest money too!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 12:57 PM
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2. Arnold $4.5 mil 'campaign loan'
Arnold is going to raise the money after the election to pay this back. Hmmmm. Wonder what kind of favors he's going to have to dish out in order to get 4.5 million dollars!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 12:57 PM
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3. Also tell them that arnold isn't going to reform the way that
property tax works to benefit huge businesses because a huge business -- the media industry -- is backing him so that he wont reform property tax.

For those of you who don't know, property tax is calculated on last sale price. Because homes sell more frequently, most homeowners pay at a valuation rate that was adjusted within the last 3-5 years (I'd guess). However, big businesses now never sell their properties. If they transfer control, it's through a lease arrangement, or a new corporate formation. Thereforem, some large businesses still pay at the rate of valuation that is 20 years old.

Camejo and Bustamante said that they'd eliminate the loophole so that the middle class isn't bearing most of the burden of paying property tax.

This, I'm sure, is the biggest reason CA's biggest industry--media-- is so spooked by them that they're campaigning 24-7 for Arnold.

So, if you know homeowners and small businessmen, ask them if they think it's fair that they pay more in property tax on the 2 bedroom house they purchased in Marin Cty three years ago for 600,000 bucks than 20th C Fox might pay on their corporate headquarters if it was valued last in 1984 at 450,000 bucks (just a hypothetical, don't know what the real numbers are).
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 01:02 PM
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4. As strange as it sounds...
I don't personally know a single voter who is going to vote for the recall. I just preach to the choir up here in San Francisco. :)

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 01:04 PM
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5. You keep on doing that!!!!
I hope the recall fails!
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 01:07 PM
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6. Good points, and Magic Johnson came out against the recall
on Good Morning America this morning. Said it was bad for California and that he likes Davis.
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