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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:38 PM
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I just ran a simulation of 2 cities
Both the cities are the same except for one thing.

One city is Liberal (Free Health Care, Laws regulating pollution, etc.)

The other city is RW (Few taxes, corporations have a lot of freedom, etc)

Here are the results.

Liberal City
Size - 210
Residents - 60
Commerce - 0
Industry - 150
Traffic - 25
Pollution - 11
Value - 99
Crime - 6
Power - 64
Health - 58
Education - 84
Unemployment - 84

RW City
Size - 530
Residents - 60
Commerce - 40
Industry - 60
Traffic - 29
Pollution - 21
Value - 98
Crime - 14
Power - 62
Health - 58
Education - 83
Unemployment - 67

What does everyone think about this?

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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:39 PM
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1. I think I'd love to learn more details.
Is this your own creation? Is there a website? How does one vary the parameters? What period of time is involved?

Perhaps you could tell us more?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:42 PM
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3. Of course
I ran it on the SNES version of Sim City 2000 over a period of 10 years.

But, since it is emulated, I turned it into a matter of only a couple of minutes.

There are more graphs and charts that I should bring out, it will hopefully make this more interesting.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:13 PM
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6. Simcity also allows you to run 10k years using oil-based plants...
And you can set it to have 0% tax on everybody and they will STILL whine about taxes.

The game is biased from the get-go.

That said, yours is a cute idea. :D

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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:40 PM
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2. Simulation?
Edited on Sat Aug-27-05 12:41 PM by Massacure
I'm confused. :shrug:

Can you give more details?
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:05 PM
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4. what are the health indecies based on
and why do you think they were equal, as in real life the difference between health in measurable terms between Europe and the US are striking?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:10 PM
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5. Here is what I did
There is an ordinace menu which allows you to enact things such as Free Health Clinics, CPR training, etc.

I simply turned them on in Liberal City while left them off in the RW version.

I do know why they are equal, I am going to advance my simulation 50 years and see what happens.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:16 PM
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7. I seriously think this kind of thing will replace Congress someday
Seriously. If we have a few thousand people sitting at their computers all day on the internet running different scenarios of simulated cities and countries, this could be used to do all the stuff which Congress does such a bad job of doing: setting policy, allocating budgets, etc.

You define your cities, states and countries, set up budgets, agenda, goals and objectives - and let the thing rip under alternative scenarios.

Then you check the outcomes, and adopt whichever parameters worked best - implement them as actual laws, policies, agendas and budgets.

Sure beats the current system where some guy in Congress can sneak 1.5 billion anonymously into an omnibus appropriations bill.

We need transparency and proof that what we're doing WORKS for our country. Congress has shown it can't provide that anymore. We the People, with these vast networks of computers which can model anything now (from tropical storms to alternative worlds) should be running the show ourselves.

Then everyone in DC can go home. Don't worry, we'll give them all a livable retirement pension.

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