What's Hillarys reason for ducking Cindy Sheeham support?

[Imagevision]

anyone have a clue?

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[NVMojo]

1. don't forget how close her man was to W's dad recently ....

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3. Nothing to do with that

Hillary is being Hillary. Centrist and noncommittal. Her and Obama obviously went to the same charm school. :eyes:

[Senator Lamb]

8. obama was against the iraq war,

thats not fair.

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13. wonderful

He says he "would have voted against it". A bit easy to claim in retrospect--he would have joined Russ Feingold as the only two senators to stand up to the administration. Then why isn't he chiming with Feingold now to demand a timetable for withdrawal? Maybe he'll say he "would have demanded" it five years from now...:eyes:

Obama's a non-leader, a Monday-morning quarterback, milquetoast...bleh.

[Senator Lamb]

18. Feingold was the only Senator to oppose the Patriot Act not

the IWR. Ted Kennedy, John Corzine, Barbara Boxer and about 20 more i believe opposed it in the senate.

plus Obama always talks negatively about the war, right now he is doing his duty as senator with whatever his work is. lets not politicize this protest its more powerful with cindy as an angry mom against a vacationing President rather than a typical Democratic anti-war protest.

[wtmusic]

20. my bad

but "talking negatively" about the war accomplishes nothing. It doesn't unite his base and it pisses off moderate Republicans.

Doing his duty as a senator involves being a leader, and like Hillary most believe he has presidential aspirations, and doesn't want to rock the boat.

The boat needs to be turned upside down.

[HereSince1628]

2. Hillary wants more troops in Iraq, not a withdrawl

I can't imagine Hillary in support of Cindy.

[jonnyblitz]

4. because she support's bush's stance. kind of hard to support

both sides. :shrug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

5. Hillary was and is a war monger. I can't stand her. n/t

[lancdem]

6. She's calling for immediate withdrawal

I'm not aware of any Dems in D.C. who support that. A withdrawal timetable maybe, but that's different.

[me b zola]

33. Funny, Clark made a very clear statement of support for Cindy

And is not advocating an immediate withdraw.

It's really not all that complicated to speak up.

BTW, I am not advocating Clark. I simply pointed out his grace as an example.

[Roxy66]

7. Because this is a citizen movement ...not a political strategy

[Dogmudgeon]

9. Is this about Hillary, or is this about Cindy?

If you hate Hillary, you should have no problem finding dozens of reasons to hate her even more. It worked for the Radical Right, and it should work for lefties, too.

If the Right wants to turn this into a circus, let 'em. Close to 90% of the people either side with Cindy or support her right to make a fuss about Bush's weasely behavior, and are growing tired of the Republican Conservative Holy War Spectacle Show And Theater Of Pain.

The best thing the Democratic politicians can do is to do the "heavy lifting" required to get us out of this quagmire. It's on that, that they should sink or swim.

--p!

[FlemingsGhost]

10. Because the DLC is "tri-strangulating" again

Look folks, as long as the corporate-owned DLC is making policy decisions, the Democratic Party is not the future of progressive politics.

Its. Just. That. Simple.

[KG]

27. a-men, brother

[sandnsea]

11. What's your reason

for spreading this garbage? How many senators are you going to accuse of ducking Cindy without any evidence to back it up?

[Imagevision]

17. What's your reason? --> actions always speak louder then words my friend..

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[pinto]

12. Our *sarcasm* smiley applies to "Hillary" and "Obama" threads equally, if

that's pertinent...

:hi:

[ray of light]

14. um...gee...could it be that she's trying to KEEP POLITICS OUT OF IT?

GOOD for her and good for all of them.

LET CINDY DO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO!

(BY the way...let's quit the dem bashing, could we? I mean: HOW counter productive is that?!!!!)

BEAT BUSH and RETHUGS

and leave the little "guys" alone.

[FlemingsGhost]

16. Yes ... we all know the Clintons eshew political opportunism.

:eyes:

What's sad, is you are serious.

[ray of light]

32. if she were an opportunist then she'd be there right now!

But I still am quite serious about people aiming their anger at the Republicans--specifically the neoCONS--and doing their best to get the corrupt conmen out of office.

Look at Hackett--good ones out there still!

[Imagevision]

21. um-gee> Dem bashing? Have electronic voting problems been solved?

Lieberman for one Dem senator needs to be replaced by hopefully another Dem senator.

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[ray of light]

31. Leiberman has stopped voting like a dem that's for sure

but he also has seniority that another dem doesn't have IF and when we can take back the congress.

BUT I don't think Leiberman will lose plus I don't want to have a TRUE republican in his spot either.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Well said!

:applause:

[oasis]

15. I'll leave it up to Cindy to worry about who supports her. I'll reserve

my anger for those who attack the Gold Star mom.

[leetrisck]

19. Hillary, Kerry and every Democratic politician

should stay away from Cindy - leave her alone - Cindy Sheehan lost a son as did the others - she is doing this very well. DO NOT take the attention away from her and the others - it's exactly what the Republicans would like to happen.

[Imagevision]

24. leetrisck> excellant point!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[CityDem]

22. She is playing it safe

Just like John Kerry and Tom Daschle in 2004. Hilliary is nothing but a political whore.

[leetrisck]

25. Oooh, this Democratic bashing

is getting a little unbeliebvable. You obviously believe every lie the Republicans ever told you.

[CityDem]

26. I am not bashing the democratic party

I am unhappy with the so called "leaders" of our party who are afraid to take a strong political stand. It is easy for Hillary to take on issues like the morning after pill (which I support), but she ducks one of the biggest issues of our time. Is she providing strong leadership or covering her political behind?

[leetrisck]

29. In the Republicans mind, the morning after pill

will be more important than the war issue. She'll take a beating on that one also. Hillary is ok. Cindy Sheehan is handling this just fine - it's almost an insult to her and the others there for us to keep saying some big shot politician needs to speak out for her. If they haven't lost a child or have someone in Iraq or Afghanistan or similar situation, what in the hell are they going to say. "I understand" - that's what bush says and of course he doesn't understand - he can't.

[CityDem]

34. I doubt it

I doubt the ability to obtain the morning after pill over the counter is a bigger issue to repubs or dems when compared to the war in Iraq. This war was unnecessary and is costing our country deeply in both real dollars and in young lives. Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and other leaders of the party -- particularly the ones who voted for the Iraq war resolution -- should be embracing Cindy and her anti war positions. Where are the Bobby Kennedy's of the 21st century? Hillary Clinton should be asked this question since she is occupying Kennedy's senate seat.

[Imagevision]

28. leetrisck> what did dems do about Blackwell in Ohio recounts?

sometimes you just gotta read the writing on the bloddy wall. You make it sound like our Democratic Senators are all performing at the top of the game when nothing can be further from the truth.


Military leaves cancelled after 9/7?

[Senator Lamb]

23. I love on Bill Mahr's show

the typical blonde "hot" conservative found it telling that Hillary wasnt at the prostest.

when will they realize that Hillary is not an extreme liberal, anti-war person, the symbol of our party. therfore, why would someone advocating more troops show up.

what they do is make liberal leaning people who dont follow the votes of policians believe the hype and make them favor Hillary for President. by attacking her it makes democrats natrually favor her. it would be better if they use Feingold or some real anti-war liberal politician in their little verbal attacks.

maybe thats their strategy cause if she wins it will be the same old same old, corporate dominated america with her continuing most of Bush's policies.

[Imagevision]

30. I rest my case.

Military leaves cancelled after 9/7?

[OneBlueSky]

36. because, like most Democratic "leaders," she has no clue . . . n/t

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