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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:52 AM
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The Weather Channel just now...Katrina Cat 4: 145 mph, 935 mb pressure...
...If you are in New Orleans, GET OUT NOW!!!!
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:53 AM
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1. Awaiting for 1am advisory for 'official' announcement
It's basically already official. The storm is not expected to shift it's central track. No shearing or weakening is expected either.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:57 AM
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6. 1240 Central NHC update...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT2+shtml/280541.shtml

000
WTNT62 KNHC 280541
TCUAT2
HURRICANE KATRINA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1240 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005


...SHORTLY AFTER 1215 AM CDT... 0515Z... AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT REPORTED THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS IN HURRICANE KATRINA
HAD INCREASED TO NEAR 145 MPH... CATEGORY FOUR ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. DETAILS WILL FOLLOW SHORTLY IN A
SPECIAL ADVISORY TO BE ISSUED AT APPROXIMATELY 1 AM CDT...0600Z.
THE SPECIAL PUBLIC ADVISORY WILL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE INTERMEDIATE
PUBLIC ADVISORY PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THAT TIME.

FORECASTER KNABB

$$
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:54 AM
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2. I agree. A lot of people in NO are going to die unless there is truly a
miracle. It's very sad. Many think they can ride this out.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:58 AM
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7. Has it been so long since that area has had a hurricane
than no one remembers how devastating these storms can be? Those who think they can "ride it out" are out of their minds. Those who think they are safe because they are 20, 30, 50 miles inland are horribly misguided.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:00 AM
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9. Betsy was 40 years ago and Camille was in 1969
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:13 AM by steve2470
Some of these folks survived both of those. This might be the exception. This is a stronger storm and there is less shoreline now because of erosion.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:04 AM
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16. Here's the recent hurricane history of the New Orleans area....
<http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2002/of02-206/phy-environment/recent-hurricanes.html>

It looks like Betsy in 1965 did the most flooding in the recent past, and that was 40 years ago....approximately two generations.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:11 AM
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30. Explains why so many aren't taking it seriously
the same happened here in Orlando; the last big hurricane to hit this area was 40 years ago, so we were unprepared. This is much, much more powerful, though. Let's hope that those who were planning on staying change their minds by morning!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:27 AM
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75. NO is so much more vulnerable though, the whole City is below sea
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:36 AM by WiseButAngrySara
level, and bordered by Lake Ponch and the Mississippi River. Their pumps are so old, I'm surprised they work at all. I spent a year there in 1994, and I was terrified every time there was a big rain; hoping that the pumps could keep up with the rainfall! I can't imagine a category 4 hurricane in that city. I was in Houston for several hurricanes, but Houston's not nearly as vulnerable as NO.

edited for spelling (Missippi River! Sounded like a hick!)
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:34 AM
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85. I know; I saw a Bill Moyers piece on it a few years ago
I've never been to NO, and if Katrina comes in as a category 4 or higher, I may never get the chance.VERY frightening. Let's pray for a miracle.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:44 AM
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99. That's the saddest part...the history of the city. All of those lovely
old buildings. It's the most European City that I know of in the States (reminds me most of Europe, along with San Fransico and some Eastern Cities). I sure hope you get the chance to visit. Let's pray for a miracle indeed.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:04 AM
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17. steve2470, you're not in n'awlins are you?
or anywhere near where this storm may hit? I'm worried!
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:05 AM
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18. No, I"m in Orlando. I'm just a weather buff and concerned DU'er.
Thanks for asking though :-)
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:06 AM
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19. I bet we could share some storm stories
Miami boy over here. :hi:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:07 AM
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21. yeah I've heard a lot of them and rode out a few nt
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:12 AM
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31. thank goodness...
and thank you for all your updates; they are very helpful for those of us concerned. I lived in N.O. all my life, up until 4 years ago, when I moved to Houston to marry my husband. So, I am very worried about many I know who live there. 4 people are driving to Houston to stay with us very early Sunday morning. Still worried that they will have homes and businesses to come back to...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:55 AM
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3. My God. I pray that everyone within a hundred miles of
landfall GETS OUT! I'm not in it's path, but I'm terribly nervous for those who are. PLEASE LEAVE ASAP!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:57 AM
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5. I'm not normally outwardly religious....I am intensely private when it....
...comes to that...but I am actively praying for anyone that cannot get away from this thing.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:03 AM
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14. I'm agnostic and I'm praying for them
after going through three hurricanes last year, my stomach is in knots over this-and I'm no where near where it's going to land. I'm VERY upset that some DUers are choosing to "ride it out", or think that it's not worth trying to escape because the roads are clogged. Go at 5am-I did for Frances, and I didn't hit serious traffic for hours. This storm is a killer; nothing is worth staying in it's path.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:13 AM
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32. Agreed! I've been through 7 in my lifetime...4 in St. Pete, FL....
...as a kid, 1 at sea when I was in the Navy, and 2 when we lived in Mobile, AL.

We didn't know that much about hurricanes when I was kid, and Dad voted to ride them out...luckily they went past us to the north and south.

The one at sea I will never forget. The day I got off that ship was the last day I ever went to sea...27 years ago.

We ran from both hurricanes in Mobile...we would NEVER stay.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:57 AM
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4. CNN spoke with a reporter that said Bourbon Street was still "lively".
Oh God!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:59 AM
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8. That happens almost everytime there is a storm...
some people cant leave, some people choose to stay, some people drive in from elsewhere to party (My sympathies do not extend to the latter on that list).
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:15 AM
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On the latter, sounds like a Darwin Award just begging to be handed out!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:18 AM
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36. Exactly.
which is a nice thing about enacting contraflow early so that you CANT get into the city.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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50. Do you think the Darwin Awards Committee will sue New Orleans? :-)
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:00 AM
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10. Here's hoping
let her get all steamed up. 'Cane cant hold that much energy for long.

Hang out there you bitch. Blow your ass off.

Stay westerly 12 hours longer
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:01 AM
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11. Praying for SwampRat and his parents.
He says he can't leave his elderly parents. :-(
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:04 AM
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15. OMG he is staying?
You are kidding? Can't he take his parents out?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:08 AM
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24. He MUST pack them up and GO!!
I read his post earlier and simply couldn't believe it. What will happen if their home is leveled? Isn't travel less difficult than swimming against flood waters? If there are any DUers leaving in the am who can help him move them, I hope that they can contact him. I have a terrible feeling that if he stays he-and they-may not survive. I'm sorry to sound so grim but I feel strongly about this.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:10 AM
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27. I do too.
I care about the rat....when he typed that had an 'axe for the ceiling' it scared me to death.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:13 AM
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33. I saw that too
an axe for the ceiling-so they can plunge into flood waters or be hit by flying debris.... I'm nearly in tears typing this.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:21 AM
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42. I'm in tears that you are in tears... but I 'm gettin' OUTTA HERE!
:hug: Betsy didn't kill me but this sucka is BAD MOJO!

I'm taking my dad to Memphis tomorrow at Noon. :hug:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:22 AM
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49. Thank goodness!!! You're making the right decision, for sure!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:37 AM
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92. I had to.
I just had to make it work, get everything and everybody squared away as best I could... what pains me is all the poor folks and homeless. :cry: Betsy was bad, but this sucka is different! :scared:

Thanks for your concern! :hug:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:27 AM
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73. Oh thank God (or Goddess)!
I just sent you a PM pleading with you to leave. I'm SO relieved that you'll be going with your dad! I'll certainly sleep a little better tonight knowing that you'll be on your way tomorrow!

:hug:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:38 AM
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94. Goddess
:D Oshun has spoken, and I must leave. :)

Thank you so much for your concern. :hug:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #42
77. Oh that is great Swamp!
Glad you decided to head out. :hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:40 AM
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95. This ain't Betsy!
abraço for you cat_girl25! :hug:

... and a Fred Phelps pic... what he REALLY desires!: :D

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:46 AM
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101. We love you brother
I posted downstream and PMed you. Sorry for calling you out, I care, you nut.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:48 AM
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103. and I tried to reply
:cry: :hug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:31 AM
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109. Thank God! I am so glad you are leaving - you had me so
worried. :hug: I have been fretting all day, worried about you. :hug:

I am so happy you are heading to safety. Take care sweet friend and thank you for letting us know that you will head for safety!!!

:bounce: :bounce: I am so damned happy! :loveya:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #42
112. I Love You Buddy! Flee North We Are Waiting!
Haul Ass Boy!

Working some hard mojo for you from this end!
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #42
113. Be safe
Swamp Rat! My prayers go with you and yours, as well as the poor folks that have no way of getting out of there :hug:

Jenn
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #42
117. Drive like the wind my friend
My best thoughts are with you
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #11
37. does anyone know how to contact him?
has anyone offered to help him move his parents out? I may know someone who could help him move them, although I haven't contacted him already about this. This person and his partner are leaving N.O. very early Sunday morning to come stay with me.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:18 AM
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38. Thanks cat_girl25!
Well, my mom is staying in the Monteleone Hotel Downtown - a very safe place, but it was HARD getting her in. She was the LAST to get a room there!!! - because there is no alternative (her SO is in his 80s and too sick to leave). My bro left with his girl at 4 pm and just arrived in Memphis. I'm taking my dad to Memphis tomorrow (they reserved a room for us) after a good night's rest.

I lived through Betsy and all the rest, but I ain't foolin' around with this bad mo fo'! Even though my house is on higher ground (River Bend, Uptown), if a huge storm surge hits, I don't think the roof will be very comfortable... that is if we have a roof in 48 hours.

To all the lovely people here on DU, I cannot express fully my thanks by mere words... :cry: I'm gettin' verklimpt! :D
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:20 AM
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41. I'm glad you and your dad will be ok, and I hope your mom is too nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #41
51. Thanks Bro
I'm a little worried about her, but she's in one of the best places around - great staff and well-prepared - and she'll be up high. It took a lot to pry my dad from his abode, but I made it happen.

:hug:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:35 AM
Response to Reply #51
89. You will never regret what you've done tonight. Never. Good job!
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #38
44. Thank you Swamp
We can breathe a little easier now. :)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
Original message
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:hug:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #38
45. Be safe.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:22 AM by Bleachers7
Take care of yourself and let us know what's up ASAP. :pals:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:26 AM
Response to Reply #45
71. Will do.
I don't eat no Moron Bacon, so I'm outta here! :D

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #38
53. SwampRat, be safe...
I was fearful for you reading the other posts -- I'm glad you and your family are getting to safe places.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #53
74. abraço
:hug:
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #38
70. oh thankgoodness you checked in Swamp Rat!
I am glad to hear you have a plan to get out. Is your mom with her SO at the Monteleone? Is that why she feels she can't leave (ie. his illness?) I am glad you will be leaving with your Dad, and I will be praying for your family to reach their destinations safely. Also that your mom and her SO would remain safe and sound.

Please read this thread we started (where you are specifically mentioned) to pray for those in the New Orleans, Louisiana, and Gulf Coast areas:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=291&topic_id=2126&mesg_id=2126

sending you lots of prayers and hugs: O8) :hug: :pals: be safe.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:30 AM
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78. Yeah, the Monteleone is a good place for them.
He's just too fragile to go anywhere. They live in Treme, and only 2 minutes from the hotel, so it is their best bet. I'm confident they will be OK. :)

:hug:
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #78
91. I'm so very glad they are together
(always better to huddle with someone!), and are safe and out of their home. I know the personnel at the Monteleone will give them the best of care and attention, if at all possible. That is one nice hotel! Best of everything to you and your family, each of you is in our prayers..

:hug:

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #38
93. Well I hope your mom and his hubby are safe.
No need to thank us, we care about you man! :hug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:57 AM
Response to Reply #38
108. OMG Swampy ... sending good vibes! Praying for your safety!
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:58 AM by lonestarnot
and on edit your roof!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:02 AM
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12. Yeeehaaa! Now we're cooking with gas!
Will be leaving in the morning...packing my bug-out bag now.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:17 AM
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35. Drive safe!! I'm glad you're getting out!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:27 AM
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72. lol
Be safe
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:02 AM
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13. update from NHC out any second now nt
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:08 AM
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23. They must be arguing over the wording of this advisory nt
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:06 AM
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20. Only 10 MPH
away from category 5 status. It may do just that. This will be an unprecedented disaster if it hits New Orleans.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:08 AM
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22. That was fast.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:14 AM by Bleachers7
It was at 115 like 6 hours ago. It wasn't supposed to hit 145 for 36 hours.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT12/refresh/AL1205I+gif/060711P_sm.gif
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. They are saying there is a rather warm patch of water it passed over
higher than the 86-89 water that it is atm.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:09 AM
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26. They are SCARED in NO. You can hear it in the mayor's voice and in the
newscasters' voices.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:10 AM
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28. holy cow. just saw this on TWC. it's not too far from cat. 5. i hope it
doesn't get worse but i think it will be a 5 by tomm. afternoon. this thing is a monster and it has some room to grow!! :scared:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:11 AM
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29. There was a less than 10% chance that it would happen within 12 hours.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:14 AM by Bleachers7
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #29
40. Wow - there was a LESS than 10% chance
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM by the_spectator
that it would reach 145mph winds within 12 hours, and now it's reached that in just 3 short hours or so?!?! What are the chances that this could actually happen???

You know what I think? Such a violation of calculated probability COULDN'T have happened ... without MASSIVE hurricane fraud! I smell Diebold in this! And don't give me any BS about "reluctant wind responders" or somesuch.

Does TIA know about this yet? :evilgrin:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #29
43. Even the on-air Weather Channel personnel are looking blown away....
...and have become quite urgent in their tone.

Look at the SIZE of that thing!
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:48 AM
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104. no, i can't imagine this one. i have a REALLY bad feeling. this is
just surreal because there is still so much gulf left from the eye to the coast. They were talking about the waves and it looks to me like it is going to have a tsunami effect on NO. I'm really scared for the folks there.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:15 AM
Original message
I feel sick
I can't even describe the depth of awful that I feel now.
Katrina is a monster and it is very possible she will carry the legacy of destroying an entire city with collateral damage of 100,000 people who didn't have the means to get out.
This is horrible.:cry:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:18 AM
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39. Only thing I can hope....
Is that tomorrow morning they enlist school buses, city buses, ANYTHING, just get these people the hell out of there.

Someone said earlier that Senator Landrieu said 3000 Louisiana Natoinal Guard is in Iraq, fine thing.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #39
46. I know
There isn't any help and noway for ordinary people like ourselves to get in.
Unless the people in NO do something about their own, those people are stuck.
As far as I am concerned, this is as big of a national emergency as 911--our government should be doing something MAJOR to get those people out of harm's way.
The monster Katrina can kill just like the monster Osama and the people end up just as dead.
WHERE IS OUR PRESIDENT????????????
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #39
47. abraço
:hug:

I'm gettin' outta here!
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:25 AM
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69. May the Angels of Heaven watch you and yours tenderly
and the countless others. :grouphug:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:31 AM
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81. :-)
O8)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:28 AM
Original message
Thank you.
Be safe and try to leave earlier than later.
Godspeed. Let us know you arrived safely.
I'll be saying my prayers for my southern neighbors.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:33 AM
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83. I'm leaving around Noon.
It's the best I can do at this point, but I'm confident we'll be OK... I am worried sick about the homeless and really poor folks. :cry:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:35 AM
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90. OOOOOOOOOH wonderful
We love you brother.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:46 AM
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102. verklimpt...
tawk amungst your selves dawlin'. :cry: :hug:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:28 AM
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76. I am praying this doesn't happen.
Someone just said you could hear the fright in the mayor's voice. I did too.:scared:
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:15 AM
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34. Latest Advisory is in
KATRINA STRENGTHENS TO CATEGORY FOUR WITH 145 MPH WINDS...

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. A GRADUAL
TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED LATER TODAY.

REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED AND ARE NOW NEAR 145
MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON
THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE
TODAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 70 MILES...110 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 160 MILES...260 KM.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY THE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT WAS 935 MB...27.61 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 15 TO 20 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 25 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL.

HEAVY RAINS FROM KATRINA SHOULD BEGIN TO AFFECT THE CENTRAL GULF
COAST SUNDAY EVENING. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH
OF KATRINA. THE HURRICANE IS STILL EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL
RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES OVER EXTREME WESTERN CUBA...AND 1
TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL IS EXPECTED OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #34
48. This is truly frightening and terrifying!
:scared: I can't stop thinking about all of the people in its path.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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52. self delete
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:02 AM by darkstar
Media Lies got to it first.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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54. Holy crap.
She was at 115 mph only a couple of hours ago. This is not good at all. :scared:
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #54
56. That is a massive amount of strengthening in only a 4 hour period.
Imagine what 36 hours will bring in terms of strengthening.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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59. Hurricanes are quite capable of doing this...
It is also possible for a storm to lose as much intensity in as little time, lets hope for that.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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60. The conditions are just not favorable for weakening.
There's nothing to draw intensity away from the storm. And the water is only going to get warmer during the day.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #60
61. True, but its very hard for a storm to hold cat 5 intensity
(which is 156+mph I think)

Im allowed to hope though aint I? (got family there)
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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62. I don't think it'll be a CAT 5 when it hits land
But I've been wrong before.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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67. just saw a map of water temps...
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:08 AM by Endangered Specie
86-90 degress... Might as well be 93Octane its all down to when the storm will be turned north and east.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #67
88. Jet fuel
THAT is what cinched it for me... believe me, I could get a job as a meteorologist at this point. ;)
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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63. The water in the gulf is 90 degrees -
like throwing gasoline on a fire. We may have a Cat 5 on our hands.
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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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55. I love nature
always fun to watch
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:48 AM
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105. Lovely!
Amazingly insensitive post.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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57. Damn...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT2+shtml/280541.shtml

000
WTNT62 KNHC 280541
TCUAT2
HURRICANE KATRINA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1240 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005


...SHORTLY AFTER 1215 AM CDT... 0515Z... AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT REPORTED THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS IN HURRICANE KATRINA
HAD INCREASED TO NEAR 145 MPH... CATEGORY FOUR ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. DETAILS WILL FOLLOW SHORTLY IN A
SPECIAL ADVISORY TO BE ISSUED AT APPROXIMATELY 1 AM CDT...0600Z.
THE SPECIAL PUBLIC ADVISORY WILL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE INTERMEDIATE
PUBLIC ADVISORY PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THAT TIME.

FORECASTER KNABB

$$
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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65. Oh my, that doesn't look good.
I hope that your family is able to evacuate far far away from danger. :hug:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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66. oh yeah, theyve been scared by previous storms
Its amazing that people are out partying like hell there now with no intention of leaving :crazy:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:44 AM
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98. A lot of those folks partying in the Quarter are out-of-towners
What pisses me off is that some of them have nice cars, while poor folks and homeless, who can't leave but want to, must stay.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:53 AM
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106. I imagine Dr. Darwin frowns upon that situation too.
How dumb does one have to be to drive INTO a bowl and get intoxicated when there could be a biblical flood?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:50 AM
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115. My Very Best To You And Your Family.
Vacation partiers do not get it. They have never understood these things. I have seen it many times. This is no freaking party. This sounds like it may be the nightmare scenario.

I am so glad to hear that you are safe and have made arrangements to keep everyone else that way. You are my hero!

Now put on wings and fly my friend!

Let us know when you land again!

May the great and powerful Bandar watch over you!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:04 AM
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116. I'm leaving in 30 minutes
abraços
Aram
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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58. Alright! Now we're cooking with gas. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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68. Geeze hang on to your hats kids, n your shorts tooo!
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:31 AM
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79. I don't feel needed any more here hehe
Too many researchers now :-) Seriously, I sure hope they can get those people out fast.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:33 AM
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84. You have been invaluable
and very appreciated. :hug:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:34 AM
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86. Thanks !
I didn't want to be a pest but I knew this was extremely serious. Last year in Orlando was bad and scary.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:54 AM
Response to Reply #86
111. I've appreciated...
the information you've posted, Steve2470. It's important to know :) So, thank you. I have fam there (sister) and she's gettin' the hell out of there in a few hours.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:31 AM
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80. TWC just announced that a mandatory evacuation is being called for NO.
That means everyone get out.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:32 AM
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82. wow even NO TV doesn't have that yet nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:34 AM
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87. Holy cannoli
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #80
96. just heard on TWC that both interstates are closing the southbound
lanes to southbound travelers. All interstate lanes are for evacuation purposes. :scared: I have a baaaaaaad feeling about this one. I hope it's not like the hurricane that wiped out NO at the turn of the century.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:43 AM
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97. Jefferson Parish Emergency Operations Director compared Kat. to Andrew nt
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:45 AM
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100. Talking about WALL of WATER coming over the levees nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:56 AM
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107. OMG... turning on news.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:46 AM
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110. OK I'm going to bed
Keep up the great work fellow DU'ers and God protect all of you in New Orleans, Louisiana and Mississippi. Good night. :-)
Steve
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:45 AM
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114. Now a Category 5!
000
WTNT32 KNHC 281151
TCPAT2
BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 22
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
7 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...KATRINA...NOW A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE
HURRICANE...HEADED FOR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA. A TROPICAL
STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH
MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

more...

www.noaa.gov
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