why do DUers love Joe Biden so much?

[Cocoa]

3 weeks ago, Dennis Kucinich made a rare appearance on a Sunday talk show, and he was nearly totally ignored:

2 posts:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4279163

2 posts:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4278796



And Joe Biden took a rare break from the Sunday talk shows, yet that day he still merited a thread, which received 4 times as many posts as the two Dennis threads combined

15 posts:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4279401



:wtf:
And

[meegbear]

1. Because he's sooooo dreamy

:loveya: :loveya:

[BrklynLiberal]

2. I am not among the Joe Biden fans.I think he is as big an opportunist and

"let's see which way the wind blows" as there is.

He is totally in the pocket of the credit card/banking corporations.

He would never get my vote.

EDIT: Didn't he also say he would be open to running with John McCain? :puke:

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Guess Biden is not taking his meds...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2041244

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. Not me - like most politicians, in love with himself, his ideas, his own

voice.

[cornermouse]

5. Less motivation to argue against someone that you basically

agree with (see Kucinich)?

Biden, on the other hand, ...

[Lydia Leftcoast]

6. Joe Biden fan?

Not I!

He's too much of a compromiser at a time when compromise is not benign.

[blm]

7. I think you missed a Kucinich thread, Cocoa.

I remember one that started the day before the show as a reminder and continued during the show. It was fairly long.

[Cocoa]

30. I probably missed more than one thread

and I only searched General Discussion.

But the point remains, people like to complain about people like Biden, but then they ignore people like Kucinich.

And Feingold, who made a very important appearance last week that was again mostly ignored.

[blm]

36. Your point still holds - absolutely. Too many reinforce negatives while

ignoring the positives.

[jedr]

8. I don't always agree with him politically;

But a least the man has some guts, which is more than I can say for most of my leaders in the Democratic party....We need people like Dean and others who "tell it like it is (hate that phrase)... I'm so sick of the mealy mouths who can't seem to do a damn thing to save this country but have all the answers...sorry friends , the nightmare is getting too real and I,m getting fed up.

[babylonsister]

9. Not fair; you failed to mention that thread on Biden

had totally negative responses to it; I didn't see anyone that supported him.

[buff2]

10. I can't stand him

You never know when he's going to explode.....then turn around and support the war. He is a very unstable guy and I wouldn't vote for him for all the money in the world. :thumbsdown:

[Hamlette]

11. but, the Biden thread is negative.

I'm watching Biden more closely than Kucinich because there is a real possibility Biden could be the democratic nominee for prez in 2008.

[insane_cratic_gal]

12. Being New to the political arena

as I am. I heard Biden speak shortly have the election. I was impressed with him. He holds himself well, puts forth his arguments well. But when you investigate Biden's record. He ain't so pretty anymore.

Can I point out 15 negative response to Biden!!! That's how much people feel betrayed by him.

Dennis, doesn't quite have the same charisma as Biden. He comes off as being off his rocker when he becomes passionate about something, it's one of his endearing qualities. However, I'd trade a 1,000 Biden's for one Dennis.

Can I point out 4 positive responses is far better then 15 negative

[Justitia]

13. Snazzy cuff links, megawatt smile - he's a snappy dresser!

His fake outrage in committee is fun to watch!

But the way he votes, and when he goes after other Dems.....

makes me want to pull out all his doll-hair plugs with tweezers!

[billie_]

14. HAHAHA...."doll hair plugs"!

Joe Biden is henious....he is as fake as ya get....

"I like you man, I realllly like you"_Biden too Gonzalez the torturer at his nomination hearing....arrrghhh!

[leftchick]

27. omg... pfffft!

doll hair plugs!!

:rofl:

[mcscajun]

15. Love Joe Biden? Hardly.

...there are a lot of threads on him, mostly to bash his ass.

This was a big 'indoor sport' during the run-up to the passage of the change in the Bankruptcy Laws, in particular.

Another was when he made a public indication of his interest in the Presidency. There was a "whole lotta pukin' goin' on" that week.

Biden? :puke:

[Historic NY]

16. "Shoot from the lip Joe"......

I sometime thinks he like to hear himself talk.

[Pithy Cherub]

17. Biden no longer even merits sarcasm smilies

he's so vile! :puke:

[SlowDownFast]

18. Because he has nice teeth.

Why else?

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Nah

I'm not really a huge fan like I am with other politicians like Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Dean etc. Biden can be okay but sometimes he's annoying. Plus, isn't he a PNACer? If it wasn't for that he would be a *little* better I think. That's why I have trust issues with him. And yes, on the "Daily Show" when he was on not long ago (either earlier this month or last month) he said he would like to run with McCain and that he was the one who encouraged Kerry to have McCain as his VP originally (so he claims anyways). He seems like a nice enough person but it's just the politics. He's not ugly or anything like that but he's not John Kerry dreamy. Only reason why I'd vote for Biden is if he won the primary and depending on who the republicans put up to if my vote would be needed.

[goforit]

20. Biden?...Not me!!! He's a whore to what ever way the wind is blowing.

[TwilightZone]

21. Well, I don't think "love" is the right word.

Biden gets attention because he's polarizing. Some days, he does things that merit positive attention; others, he pisses everybody off.

Negative threads will often get much more attention, simply because a lot of DUers like to get worked up. ;)

[Cocoa]

32. negative threads get more attention

but then people bitch about the dems not having any message, or any new ideas.

But when the dems do put forth something fresh, it gets ignored. Feingold said something significant last Sunday, something that has more potential to save troops' and Iraqis lives than anything else recently, but it got totally ignored. People just went on bitching about the dems and pretending Feingold doesn't exist.

[TwilightZone]

33. I wholeheartedly agree.

People would much rather continue the "oh, all the Dems are spineless" meme than give any of them credit for anything, and it seems to be getting worse.

It's become rather obvious that we all do not share the same agenda.

[librechik]

22. Joe tall, Dennis small

I'm just sayin'

[H5N1]

29. hmm...that doesn't seem to bother Dennis' hot young wife

As a side note: we fail as a party because we do not support people like Kucinich 100%. I'm just sayin.'

[librechik]

37. I know--being short myself I empathize with Dennis & I don't agree

with the media focus. I wish the media were less shallow--but that was the origian thread question , why Ted gets the coverage and Dennis doesn't. Not for any intrinsic reasons, for sure!

[seabeyond]

23. firstly joe biden is both taken more seriously, (for different reasons)

higher on the hierchy of power.

so to compare the two, well i would htink there are obvious differences.

second i dont love biden. i do respect biden though, which is more than a lot on this board. i dont see him perfectly nor do i expect it. there are things he says and does that is right on. i will take it. i will run with it, when he is right on. and i will disagree with him and fight him when he isnt.

that is called working with people., not going to find a clone of ourselves, i personally wouldnt want it. i dont want to live the way another ay see for me. i dont want you to live my way, i assure you

[BrklynLiberal]

24. Not everyone likes Biden...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2041338

[Raiden]

25. Joe Biden - My hero

:sarcasm:



He's a pseudo-populist corporate sell-out

[JNelson6563]

26. He's got great hair plugs!

I think Biden's an opportunist and I don't mean that in a good way.

Julie

[Catch22Dem]

28. Are you sure you're not high?

I don't think I've ever seen a pro-Biden thread on DU!

[Independent_Liberal]

31. Biden is okay...

He's no Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Kucinich, or Conyers, but he's not nearly as bad as Lieberman.

[insane_cratic_gal]

34. I think it's safe to say..

Only Zell Miller is as bad as Lieberman.. not much of a comparison

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. I hate Biden.

Just sayin'. :hi:

[AX10]

38. This Duer despises that despot!

Joe Biden is only out for himself. Whatever further's Joe Biden's sad career what Joe Biden supports.

Biden is out for himself only.

39. kucinich

Maybe it has to do with our base instincts or automatic biases that come from god knows how long ago or where. He seems almost more a candidate for being a spiritual leader than a political leader. It seems we like more intensity, drive and ego in our Presidents.

Maybe I am paranoid, but I think there are a lot of unconscious forces operating in America, like puritanism, dislike of sexuality, and even that we shouldn't enjoy ourselves. We are supposed to be like worker ant minions. Maybe the flood of people from the south will bring more heart to this country???