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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 11:48 AM
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It is not like Viet Nam, so quit saying that!
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"I tell the guys not to lose their humanity over here, because it's easy to do," said Marine Capt. James Haunty, 27, of Columbus, Ohio. "I tell them not to turn into Col. Kurtz."

Haunty was referring to a character in Joseph Conrad's novella, "Heart of Darkness." It became the basis for the Vietnam War movie "Apocalypse Now," in which Kurtz has a mental breakdown and murders suspected Vietnamese double agents.

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"It's a lot like it was in Vietnam, when the VC's (Viet Cong) would come out and pretend to be your friends," said Marine Lance Cpl. Jared Vidler, 23, of Syracuse, N.Y. "You're fighting an enemy on his home ground and you don't know who's who."

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"There's been reports of a .50 (caliber) sniper rifle out there. Maybe they called this in just to get us out here and take a shot. A .50-cal would go straight through our (body armor) plates," {Sgt. 1st Class Tom Coffey, 37, of Burlington, Vt} said, looking at the buildings across the river. "Why do I feel like I'm in a f------ Vietnam movie?"

Knight Ridder

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 11:50 AM
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1. No it's worse, because you are trying to get three "nations" to
play nice within one border.... they already have animosity betwixt each other, and they all are vying for control of the same riches... (oil).

So, rather than be fighting over the control of a jungle... well, you get the picture.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:05 PM
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10. make it into three seperate countries and let them figure it out
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 11:51 AM
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2. naw.. not like Vietnam at all...
rate that SOB UP...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 11:58 AM
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5. It's in a piece from Friday
Don't know how I missed it- I ususally try to catch KR regularly.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 11:51 AM
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3. dupe
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 11:51 AM by annabanana
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 11:53 AM
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4. A quagmire is a quagmire is a quagmire...
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teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:01 PM
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7. I got that sinking feeling again...
Millions of people can't be wrong... Don't slap the tar baby Bush. "I don't listen to focus groups..."

Now we need to put more people into the meat grinder to justify the previous lot of folks put in the same grinder.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:28 PM
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13. Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to Push On.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:00 PM
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6. In Vietnam, we were able to secure the road to the airport! n/t
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:02 PM
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8. * had a plan for getting out of Vietnam!
He doesn't want to get out of Iraq. Ever.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:03 PM
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9. It's not! Bush had a PLAN to get out of Viet Nam...
:grr:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:13 PM
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11. another captain: "We killed millions in Vietnam , and they kept coming"
and check out the part I highlighted below....

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/12498496.htm

Vietnam tactics

Military officials now frequently compare the fight in Al-Anbar to the Vietnam War, saying guerrillas, who blend back into the population, are trying to break the will of the U.S. military -- rather than defeat it outright -- and to erode public support for the war back home.

``If it were just killing people that would win this, it'd be easy,'' said Marine Maj. Nicholas Visconti, 35, of Brookfield, Conn., who served in southern Iraq in 2003. ``But look at Vietnam. We killed millions, and they kept coming. It's a war of attrition. They're not trying to win. It's just like in Vietnam. They won a long, protracted fight that the American public did not have the stomach for. . . . Killing people is not the answer; rebuilding the cities is.''

Minutes after he spoke, two mortar rounds flew over the building where he is based in Hit. Visconti didn't flinch as the explosions rang out.

more...
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:19 PM
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12. RET Gen Meigs thinks it is, subliminally. His Freudian Slip is showing.
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