I did notice a pattern in the reporting on Cindy Sheehan this morning...

[kentuck]

on the talkshows. Most of them depicted her as self-serving and on the fringe. However, when they showed the polls of how many approved or disapproved of Bush's handling of the war, it was something like 58% to 38% against? So if Cindy is on the majority side of public opinion, how is she on the fringe? Just maybe it is the reverse?

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. I watched Faux

and even they were as much as admitting she has bu$h by the balls.

Brett Hume said that bu$h has a history of bad Augusts and this one has been disastrous. I gave a whoop at that comment.

[Straight Shooter]

2. Anybody who speaks out against Little Boots & his war is "on the fringe"

F the MSM.

[Emendator]

17. Hey

Calling him Little Boots is an insult Caligula, who was more sane and not as dangerous and deadly as Bush.

[The Magistrate]

3. People Viewing, Sir

Are likely to take away the numbers, rather than the comments. Understanding the venture in Iraq is going very poorly, and was based on lies, is hardly a fringe position nowadays....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[still_one]

4. since I don't watch the MSM anymore I will take your word for it

I do like your observation on what people think about the war

Remember, Viet Nam protesters in the beginning were depicted as on the fringe also. It wasn't until 60000 lives later that things changed

Just maybe we can prevent that

[mondo joe]

5. Remember the Terri Schiavo reporting? A "nation divided" with 80% or so

on one side of the issue!

[phish420]

6. Or maybe its time they realize...

that apparently the majority of Americans are 'on the fringe'.


...who decides who's crazy?

[kentuck]

10. Good point phish420 !

A point Democrats might want to remember?

[lonestarnot]

7. Back to through the looking glass bullshit reporting again.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. The strategy they are using is to split the anti-war movement.

There is an all out PR offensive designed to isolate and marginalize us 'set a date - out now' folks. DLC/corporate whore/War Party Democrats are all over the airwaves droning on that we have to succeed, we cannot afford to fail, we have to do the job right, and that most importantly, setting a date certain and getting out is an option that May Not Be Discussed.

They know that Peace is breaking out. They are scared.

The Bush Cabal may be a bunch of myopic bunglers, but that is beside point. There is no way to succeed in Iraq. We are not going to bring them our version of Freedom and Democracy, delivered at gunpoint, and walk away with a functional Iraqi state. All the arguments about how we have to fix what we broke are just the latest excuse for why we have to occupy Iraq and kill lots of Iraqis. Don't be fooled.

[kentuck]

12. "...no way to succeed in Iraq..." ?

Perhaps we have already failed ? It's difficult to make apple pies out of crap.

[wtmusic]

13. We had failed by March 20, 2003

There wasn't any way to win then and there isn't now

[Warren Stupidity]

15. Exactly.

Mission failed from the start. Tens of thousands dead, for what? And still 'our leaders' offer up excuse after excuse after excuse for why we must continue.

[KoKo]

19. I've noticed alot of articles about "McGovern" and using the word failure

and peacniks floating around the web and even among some of our more Democratic leaning lites. Dragging up McGovern's loss as an example to us Anti-Iraq Invasion Protestors as if somehow we are the exact same group that was around then. Many of us were, but there are many new folks who don't even remember who McGovern was.

Also that they call anyone who doesn't support Iraq Invasion "Anti-War."
They never make the diferentiation that Vietnam and Iraq were "unjust wars" and to say that those who protest are "Anti-War" is their way of distorting our position just like they did with those against Vietnam War. There are many peace groups who ARE Anti-All War, but they don't make up the whole movement.

CNN has gone off the cliff. Their propaganda and distortions and what they leave out of any questions or discussion in all of "Blitzer's airtime" is disgusting. Some days I can take it and try to watch if there are Democrats featured...but it always puts me in a bad mood and discouraged. I think that's what they want.

[Warren Stupidity]

22. Basically the political situation is 1966-67.

The 'establishment' is still in control but their hold on the framing is being sabotaged by reality - the war is not going well, and a determined ad hoc opposition that is taking to the streets and getting the message out despite the media control.

About McGovern: I would willingly trade domestic political defeat for an end to the Iraq war. If that is the price we have to pay, again, so be it.

[flyarm]

9. well.....

from a conservative vacation island of only 18 miles long..last night 200+ people came to a democratic meeting ( the dem club was only begun 4 months ago with 9 people!) this was only the second meeting !!

when i say this is a conservative island in nj..i mean conservative..and 200+ strong came out last night and were very vocal..and very engaged!!

and 2 congressmen showed up !!

people are coming out, and speaking out!!

fringe??? no, i would say most are pretty wealthy, as this is where they have their second beach homes!!
there were all expensive cars in the parking lot, and many were business people..and retirees!

fly

[flyarm]

11. ohhh and i will add..most were furious at the media!!

the media was quite the topic,and of the bullcrap coming from the media!!
people are fed up!!

fly

[Jade Fox]

18. Wow. That's good to hear, Flyarm!

[Imagevision]

14. How much has Iraq benefited since Jan. election?? huge success?

This next election coming up in Iraq will be the "proof in the pudding" as to just how successful the war there really is!

Rove's a traitor > http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[DemonFighterLives]

16. On another site, I found even some democrats and centrists

buying the media lies. Some are thinking Cindy looks bad and is using her sons death and is being manipulated by Move On, etc, etc.
I informed them that none of that was true. It is about Cindy, but also more. It is about the lies and needless war. To put all the blame on Cindy for the evils of this war is rediculous.
Amazing how many fit under the extremist, fringe, activist umbrella.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. Don't mess with facts. Please. You'll confuse the talking heads.

They think we're stupid and can't see the facts as they really are. They expect us to believe their bullshit commentary.

[rman]

21. Didn't you get the memo? We're all extremists now.

Ok not all, but a majority.
Good thing the leadership knows what's good for us when we don't...

[Dem Agog]

23. "the majority has been marginalized"

i read that last week re: americans, and it's true. the majority of this country have officially been marginalized by the extremists and MSM.