Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Please tell me I-10 won't be Bush II's "Highway of Death."

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:59 PM
Original message
Please tell me I-10 won't be Bush II's "Highway of Death."
I'm looking at the WWL streaming video and traffic is backed up to downtown N.O. Can everyone get out?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. I used to live in New Orleans. Evacuation very difficult.
New Orleans is SURROUNDED by water and swamp. The ONLY ways out are over bridges, or through swamp. If ALL lanes were to be made outbound only, there would be ONLY 22 lanes available. It has been that way since the 1970's.

Most of New Orleans will not be able to get out. The city is lower than sea level.

Much of the question depends on the exact angle the storm hits N.O. from. If a super storm (This one has sustained winds of 175 as I type. It qualifies.) ever travels up the Mississippi river and hit N.O. it will be amazing devastation. (Storm surge comes up the river while the winds push lake Ponchartrain south into N.O.) FEMA calls it a "project storm".

This one looks like come up from the South to hit N.O. Still very bad, but not a worse case.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. It is heart-breaking to be sitting here on a beautiful day
and imagining the frustration and anxiety of people trying to get away from this storm.

There is nothing more I can do right now. I sent all the money I can immediately spare to the Red Cross.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gennifer6 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. They have approx. 16-18 hours till land fall I hear...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. and darkness will slow the evacuation.
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:26 PM
Response to Original message
4. Cities of that size have lots of roads going out in different directions
Are people using them? I would think the safest thing to do now would be to get on a road out of town that goes to the north or northwest or west toward Little Rock or Dallas, Texarkana, etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. There are too many trying to go west, I-10 is a long parking lot that way
and there really are not that many roads...N.O. isn't Atlanta, it's surrounded by water on 3 1/2 sides, basically.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. New Orleans is a big exception, IIRC there are 3 ways out
I-10 East, I-10 West and the Causeway. thats about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. Mapquest New Orleans
There are only 3 highways leading out of the city and all of them are very limited access highways since they all go over swamps or over Lake Ponchatrain. Once you're on them, you can't get off. If a car stalls in one lane it'll make the backups even worse.

I was there in March and as I was driving out of town I got into a backup of over 20 miles of bumper to bumper traffic because they had one lane closed for construction. This was on a sunny Tuesday afternoon with normal traffic.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HadItUpToHere Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
7. Why don't they turn the inbound lanes into OUTBOUND???
if it's a MANDATORY evac- there shouldn't be any reason for people to be headed INTO town...watching the bumper-to-bumper outbound lanes, and completely empty inbound lanes reminds me of the scenes from the movie "Independence Day" (and i wondered the same thing about using the inbound lanes as outbound when i saw that movie).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. That's what I was thinking, too.
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. I believe they have Contraflow in effect until 4pm central.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
8. Wouldn't this be about now that the National Guard would
be enlisted to help evacuate the residents? But, they are in Iraq getting killed instead, aren't they. Good planning Mr. Bush.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 02:11 PM
Response to Original message
13. I heard the word gridlock with regard to one highway.
Didn't catch where... (on WWL)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 08:05 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC