Latest Info from Al Martin posted in this thread

[Must_B_Free]

SYNOPSIS in POST 4

Here are the facts - do with them what you like

- Troupiano supports Al Martin - having him on as a guest today
- Al Martin pushes a catalog of lies mixed with truth
- Troupiano is attacking Clark for not registerning as a Democrat.

It may just be free speech or it may be an attempt to steer peoples thinking.

What do others make of this show?

[ShaneGR]

1. Who the hell is Al Martin?

Never heard of him. And who the hell is this Troupiano guy?

[janekat]

10. Has site named "Conspiracy Planet" - likes conspiracies

He can be entertaining....

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

13. Isn't Al Martin a convicted Iran-Contra felon?

from the Bush I administration?

[davidinalameda]

2. never heard of the show

don't make anything out of it

but it does sound like more Clark bashing because people are scared of his chances of winning the nomination

[Must_B_Free]

4. HERE'S A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WAS SAID

same station that carries Mike Malloyand used to carry Peter Werbe.

Martin is coming on now. He's what he says:

Wrote article about the leak on September 2.

Rove had same position in Bush 1 administration; dismissed for leaking to Bob Novak.

Roves Grandfather - identified as owner of Engineer and Construction firm in Nazi Germany - not identified as senior nazi party official.

Rumsfeld's immediate reletive worked for Rove's Grandfather during the war.

Will be kept in the public eye through salacious details and as long
as the administration runs from this.

Internal investigation suggests someone on the Vice Presidents staff.

Will find an expendable scapegoat to go to jail for Class B felony with mandatory sentence.

Administration will relent and appoint an independent council. Has become a joke - can appoint an independent council without much fear.

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Re the agents inder Laplame:

lives placed in "imminent jeopardy".

liquidation of resources reported in france, BBC, 4 or 5 international outlets.

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Was Rove Deep throat? Haig accued Rove after Haig himself was accused. Martin thinks no, he wasn't deep throat. Rove will be protected for what he knows and what he represents - 3rd generation of Nazis in Republican party.

Industrialists escaped Nazi germany and formed the same relationships with republicans in the US after WWII.

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Wilson was extremely well prepred to deflect GOP criticism - had with him documented proof that he was not connected to Niger mining deals.

Wilson's Wife and family are in hiding because of this and they don't have federal protection.

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Now Troupiano reiterating the claim that 70 people are dead as a result of her being outed.

Martin calling her "Valierie Plath" - oops, some credibility lost on that. Even I know her name

A bunch of implication that the "liquidated" means killed.

(I've seen no evidence for this claim myself)

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[thebigidea]

8. bwahahhaha

"Roves Grandfather - identified as owner of Engineer and Construction firm in Nazi Germany - not identified as senior nazi party official.

Rumsfeld's immediate reletive worked for Rove's Grandfather during the war."

I don't buy this at all without documentation. Could be crap meant to discredit those bringing up Prescott Bush sort of stuff.

[Must_B_Free]

12. Yes - real big question mark about this apparent disinformation

lots of discrediting from others, but no proof from Martin

[Speck Tater]

6. At this point the Repugs are afraid...

... of any Dem winning the nomination, because no matter who we run against him Bush is going to get his posterior booted out of the White House.

The real meaning of "flip-flop": Bush is a flop, so it's time to flip him out of the White house. Flip the flop.

[KittyWampus]

3. Now I Know Where "Clark Is An Independent" Hysteria

Came from all of a sudden...

So he wasn't a registered Republican in Arkansas... he was an Independent!!!

So much for the Clark Bashers trying to peddle the Clark as GOP Mole crap.

Hopefully, Clark will make a big deal about filing his papers for his Presidential Run and his Registration as a Democrat on the same day and do a MASSIVE photo-op.

[dfong63]

5. it was a major uck-fup on Clark's part

that gives yet more credence to the perception that he's just an opportunist. as well as incompetent.

[Brian Sweat]

7. Like it matters.

Also, it is possible that his voter registration change hasn't been processed yet.

[janekat]

11. You don't register parties in Arkansas

was in the other Clark thread....

[BiggJawn]

9. Al Martin again?

I have searched for any other references to Karl's granpappy being a Nazi camp-builder and I have turned up ZIP.

In fact, the only reference I can find for "Roverer" is that it's a term, more common in Germany, for fans of the Land Rover SUV.

Martin's the same guy who also sees Nazis in Art Deco art, like that 54-cent stamp that came out last year.

IOW, a 24-K nut-case, IMO.

[Must_B_Free]

14. yes but some of his nut cases

have had some real nutmeat in them.

he's about 50/50 at this point