Wow. You all have to see the Pro-Bush rally video on Truthout

[RSchewe]

http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml

[BlueJac]

1. Please, I'm trying to eat dinner!

[Straight Shooter]

2. Freaks and cowards.

Good grief, no wonder this country is in the toilet.

[ret5hd]

3. hahahahahaha...did you see that 19 yr old?

i havent seen so much stuttering and stammering since i got caught masturbating when i was 13!

[Botany]

38. I would have no problem going if I was drafted.

:bounce:

Son you could be in Iraq by 06

sign up

2 weeks ....

basic

8 weeks

8 to 10 weeks ATI .....

next stop Baghdad

[MADem]

71. He could be there by Xmas if they just hand him a weapon after boot camp!!

The putz!

[Ken Burch]

78. THAT'S how they "recruited" everyone at the pro-Bush rally

Homeland Security caught them ALL masturbating. And they saved the DVM's.

[speedoo]

4. Real courageous, them chickenhawks.

They should all be in Iraq, sweating with the rest of the troops.

Sickening mofo's.

[fooj]

5. Hypocritical rat bastards!

Peace.

[meganmonkey]

36. Love your new avatar! n/t

[fooj]

45. Thanks. Pretty groovy, huh?

Peace.:hi:

[mike_c]

6. lotsa hostility there....

"Kick their ass and take their gas," and that guy at the end-- "I said move it out, buddy!"

[TomInTib]

12. wanna bet that hits al-jazeera?

"Kick their ass and take their gas" what a bunch of idiots.
And I thought there was a PR firm behind this.
What maron let this happen?

[RSchewe]

16. Good, I hope it does. It is what it is... ignorant.

[MADem]

72. That ASTOUNDED me, too

And these dimwits think they are SUPPORTING the chimp, who has claimed, time and time again, that Iraq is NOT about the oil???

By their abject stupidity, they tout his real agenda...and they don't even realize that they are cornholing him mightily in the plaza of public opinion!

She clearly was a child left behind--lacking even basic reasoning skills.

[CrispyQ]

88. "Kick their ass and take their gas"

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. And these are the 'family values' people?

You are right. If al jazeera gets hold of this it will be great for their PR.

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. Carnival freaks and bums. When will it come out that they all got

paid to be there?

[zoeb]

8. I didn't know that internet news sites were antiwar

Someone should tell Newsmax that! :rofl:

[jillan]

9. nice group - huh?

Have you ever thought of joining the militart?
Hell no, I'm a republican!

[ultraist]

10. I can't bear to watch it. Those people make me ill.

But I am curious as to how many people were there. I've seen counts anywhere from 1500-4000. What does it look like from the video?

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

29. The actual count

I have analyzed the video for the past two hours. I count a shade over 3000 pro-death marchers. It took a while and I had to count some twice. three.. uh...20, okay, 60... errr....85 times each..

[ultraist]

41. LOL! You are very patient. Thanks for the count.

I knew it couldn't have 4 thousand!

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

11. Thank You, Thank You, Truthout. I haven't laughed that hard

in a loooong time... What freaking hypocrites. That kid "I can serve better in America"... what a laugh... But the look on his face was the best of it all!

[Child_Of_Isis]

15. "I can serve better in America".

That's the new catch phrase the chickenhawks have ben using when asked why they are not in Iraq.

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

32. Actually, listening to it again, he says

"I feel better served here in America." Yup, he's well served by the blood of dead soldiers that he won't join unless the Bushbot alarm rings out.

[nickgutierrez]

50. That kid looked about ready to shit himself...

...which, I'm assuming, is what he would do if he actually had to fight.

[Barad Simith]

86. I caught that too. Transcript:

"But if the draft was instituted I'd go. Right now I feel better served here in America. I mean, I wanna - I'm getting my education and, I mean if I could help with the troops any way, I would - I mean I would do that."

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

87. still shaking head

I'm still chuckling over the whole video. I liked the girl with the sign, too. "but I have friends there"

With the problems facing recruiters being even worse in the coming year, my suggestion to * is he needs to make sure he sends his recruiters right to the pro-death camps for immediate sign-ups.

[SoCalDem]

56. Nice of them to 'decide for themselves" what's best for 'Merka

:)

[M155Y_A1CH]

62. Ha Ha!

There is nowhere to run and hide from Iraq duty and still say you served.

Tell them to join the National Guard.

[RSchewe]

13. I actually feel bad for them. Ignorance is painful to watch. n/t

[Generic Other]

14. Well, wasn't that precious?

They seemed a bit skittish when the talk came to enlisting.

[Pam-Moby]

17. What the hell is wrong with those people.

If they support this war so much why are they not enlisting? They do not need to be drafted. What traitors.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. The 19 year old had a hard time explaining why he isn't in Iraq

didn't he? Funny stuff! An "internet news site" is an enemy of Idiot supporters. :7

[Postman]

19. What a bunch of morons..

"Kick their ass and take their gas" ...nothing more needs to be said..

19 year old is obviously scared shitless about joining NOW. "i'll go if their's a draft"....in other words, if I'm forced, by law because I'm not risking my ass voluntarily. Another chickenhawk coward.

An internet news service is "the enemy"

..Such dumbasses. It's amazing they found their way to Texas.

[RSchewe]

22. Actually... What a bunch of morAns! n/t

[Chi]

63. "..Such dumbasses. It's amazing they found their way to Texas. "

Why do ya think they traveled in a caravan.

:evilgrin:

[FlaGranny]

79. Not much different than saying

"Beat them up and steal their wallets." What does he do for a living, anyway - armed robbery?

[Gabi Hayes]

20. was this guy there? he was in 68...wonder what he's up to today

button says, "support our boys"

what about our "girls?"

[jillan]

21. what was that sign suppose to mean anyway

Kick their ass and take their gas?

Was she saying she knew the war was all about oil?

[Jade Fox]

81. Yep. It's amazing how people know what's really going on...

even while they talk about spreading Democracy, ousting Dicatators etc.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

23. I'll sue! roflmao!!

Dude you can't! That'd require one of those trial lawyers! Can't have that now can we?

:rofl:

[RSchewe]

24. Sounds like one of those "frivolous lawsuits" n/t

[SalmonChantedEvening]

25. Wholly without merit. n/t

[Gabi Hayes]

33. I missed that! who said that? the nineteen year old?

and what about the "move it on buddy" jackass? I SO wished they'd asked that ahole why HE wasn't over there instead of in Texas

he reminded me a lot of the MORAN guy.

those people should be inEFFably ashamed of themselves

they truly have zero sense of irony, do they?

[SalmonChantedEvening]

34. The shaved head just before the "move along buddy" dumbass

"You use this film and I'll sue!"

bahahahaha

[flygal]

46. Freepers are the first to cry "I'll sue"

Just like my freeper in-laws.

[Roland99]

26. Damn chickenhawks and brain-dead morans....Recommended.

[PatrioticLeftie]

27. Ha!

That one 19-year-old was squirming when confronted with joining the military.

[Vickers]

28. "There's NOT a draft."

:rofl:

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

31. "Yeah but I mean if one is instituted"

[Jade Fox]

80. Of course he'll go. Does he think if he got drafted he'd have a choice?

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. That is wonderful

What morans.

They all need to be in a uniform on their way to Iraq.

[Libby2]

35. That was great !!

I thoroughly enjoyed that.

[Junkdrawer]

37. You know that, in Pittsburgh, people were maced and shot with tasers...

for objecting to cameras in their face....

[imax2268]

39. wow...

what a bunch of morons...

"i said move along buddy"...what...does he own the road that he's got his BushCo loving ass on...?

The retards think they are just so much better then everyone else...

sign up you wussies...!

[Peace Patriot]

40. I am going to tirelessly repeat this statistic. It's come to feel like my

mission in life. But I feel it's so important. 58% of the American people opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. Feb. '03. Before all the lies were exposed; before the full horror and costs of it were known. Across the board in all polls. Way back then. 58%!

About half of that 58% were against the war outright. The other half would only support a U.N. peacekeeping mission--not preemptive, unilateral war by Bush.

THAT many people--nearly 60%--didn't trust Bush THEN. It's over 70% today.

That figure--58%--dipped only once, during the few weeks of the invasion, with U.S. troops at maximum risk--then went right back up to nearly 60%, where it stayed through the election.

And we have to ask, WHY did we have war anyway, when it was clearly NOT the will of the majority of Americans? And, what really happened in the election?

All OTHER issue polls are quite similar. Whether it's the Iraq war, or torture policy, or Social Security, or the deficit, or women's rights--the great majority of Americans oppose every major Bush policy, foreign and domestic, way up in the 60% to 70% range.

What is going on here? Well, it's quite clear to me, given what I know of the overwhelming evidence of election fraud in 2004, that the American people, a) are actually progressive in their views, and very anti-Bush, and b) have been disempowered and DISENFRANCHISED.

I think it's very important for activists here at DU, and other peace and political activists, to know this--that the great majority of Americans are WITH us. And one other important thing: we must look to the MECHANISM of power for the solution, and not just to how to "frame" issues, or how to "reach" the crazy, rightwing MINORITY. So many comments I read here are aimed at that minority--either ridiculing it, or trying to tone down other people's comments and "issue frames" in order to CONVINCE that MINORITY.

I do think that it's important that any reachable rightwingers be reached--because, you know, they are Americans, too, and they are human beings. The Bush junta hurts them--or will hurt them--too, even if they don't know it. But far more important, right now, is how to EMPOWER and ENFRANCHISE the MAJORITY.

And I think that is very simple, and doable--maybe not easy, but quite straightforward and doable. We need...


Paper ballots hand-counted at the precinct level (--Canada does it in one day, although speed should not even be a consideration, just accuracy and verifiability)

or, at the least

Paper ballot (not "paper trail") backup of all electronic voting, a 10% audit (automatic recount), strict security, and NO SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code! (...jeez!).

-------

Did you know that Venezuela has OPEN SOURCE CODE? Yup. But not us. We have two far rightwing corporations--Diebold and ES&S--tabulating our votes with SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code. It is insane!

The reason we have this is bipartisan corruption of state/local election officials, who have been lured by lavish lobbying and by the heady power of brokering these big business deals in the billion dollar election theft industry.

So, we have obstacles to overcome (corrupt Dems, too), and a lot of work to do--but the power over election systems still resides at the state/local level, where ordinary people still have some influence. And, as long as we have that power, we MUST act to use it! We must not slack! We must take that opportunity! Our democracy depends upon it.

It's NOT GOOD for this rightwing minority to be running the country, and to have their views trumpeted throughout the corporate news monopolies, with a near blackout of majority views. It makes the wingers ugly and crazy. It makes them not have to think very hard. It makes them not consult their own B.S.-detectors. They know, deep in their hearts, that something's wrong. Some of them do, anyway. They've gone off the deep end. That sign, "Kick their ass, take their gas" says it all. They're totally whacked out. They can't even think any more. And their hearts are in the wrong place.

Nor is it good to have either Democrats or Republicans dependent upon the corrupt election officials and rightwing corporations for how the votes are counted. We are just going to get a War Democrat for president as the result--someone who may PROMISE to "bring the troops home" sometime or other, but who will not likely abandon those 15 new U.S. military bases in Iraq, and who will soon change (break) that promise with the new goal of "doing a better war." What we need is a truly populist Democrat (or other?) who will immediately call for a U.N. protectorate in Iraq and involve Iraq's neighbors in a peace process, who will look long and hard at military spending and at the corporate news monopolies, and will provide the country with a positive vision aimed at peace and justice, and at the full restoration of democracy in the U.S.

But that can only happen when we restore our election system to the public venue, and have recovered our right to vote. It's going to take time. Perhaps a War Democrat, who will likely have to pay lip service to some progressive values, will provide the political room to make progress on this vital matter: election reform. Whatever happens, that is the first and most essential thing we have to do: restore our right to vote.

[ultraist]

42. Well said!

This is our problem in a nutshell: What is going on here? Well, it's quite clear to me, given what I know of the overwhelming evidence of election fraud in 2004, that the American people, a) are actually progressive in their views, and very anti-Bush, and b) have been disempowered and DISENFRANCHISED.

We are no longer a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

I think * was cheating down there in Texas, that's how he won there too.

I agree, we need to restore our voting system, FIRST or we are doomed.

[Gabi Hayes]

44. powerful post....if the votes don't count, what else matters?

course, electing most dems won't change anything, either

anybody remember Fred Harris?

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

59. No reason the sourc code should be secret - none whatsoever

I'm a professional programmer/analyst with over 20 years experience.

Making this code proprietary is ridiculous, because there is nothing special about it.

The code to count votes could be written by a college freshman in a basic programming course.

The code for the touch screen portion could be written by any competent programmer who's been working in VB or any other GUI technology for a year or two.

Edited to clarify subject

[underpants]

67. I've posted that too-60% said "DON'T GO IT ALONE"

Totally ignored by MSM and W*.

*see he's a leader he don't pay no 'tention to no polls see he just leads see

[Sparkman]

70. How do you convince Americans to give up the booty from U.S. military ...

AGRESSION here & over seas? That's a hard sell, 'cause it's unspoken.

[deebo550]

43. What an angry group.

And not a single good answer for why this is such a "noble" cause but none of them are willing to put their neck on the line for it.

[newyawker99]

54. Hi deebo550!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[dchill]

47. Sooooo....

They're like ALL embarrassed to be on camera.....

Hmmmm....

[EstimatedProphet]

48. Jerks

Especially the "kick their ass &take their gas" princess, and Mr. "Move it on". these idiots have no idea of the damage they do, or how stupid they collectively make this country.
I'm thinking of making this freeper my new sig:

[deutsey]

64. "I hate thinking"

I just don't know what to say...

[sniffa]

73. i was aware of his sentiment w/out reading the shirt

that must be to Let other freepers know, he's one of them.

[CrispyQ]

90. Me too!

It leaves me speechless!

[bvar22]

74. Photoshopped.

I believe that in the original picture his shirt said:
"I HATE HIPPIES!"
but the one I saw could have also been 'shopped.

[jbnow]

76. Yep. He be

kicking hippies asses and raising hell

[EstimatedProphet]

77. Yes, it was

He had "I hate hippies" at first. I simply decided to make it more honest.

[underthedome]

49. "I don't need you doing that digital format in my face"-LOL Fk'ing idiots

Props to those who filmed this.

[Warren DeMontague]

51. Did they SPRAYPAINT that horse?

Oh, the humanity!

Wow, what a bunch of winners.

"I'm better served here, in America"

...Now, WHERE have I seen that guy before?

[smurfygirl]

75. that's what I was wondering. Why does the horse have GOD written

on it? Seems strange. Idiots...that's what they all look like. Notice the 19 yr old agreeing with the fact that our military is stretched and needs help...then having the gall to say he is better suited in America. Chickenhawk cowards...and the move it on buddy redneck...I've spent to much energy on these low lifes already.

[NMMNG]

52. Ha ha, chicken-hawks on parade

So tough and mighty, yet when they find out their posturing is going to be broadcast they get belligerent and tell the cameras to "move it on". That 19 year old wimp was priceless..."I'll go if I'm forced to--not before, yet I'll stand here yelping about how fabulous I think the war is". :eyes:

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. the news media is the enemy

I better serve here,

If there was a draft I'd serve

Move on

You are the ememy

And one even wore an iron cross, CLASSIC.

And then they wonder why we call them fascists and ignorant and yellow backed asses

[DemonFighterLives]

55. Real toughies there

I'm sure George could use that kind of bravado in Iraq pushing around some reporters and Iraqis.

[MadeinOhio]

57. Corporate media lying again, as usual we can see.....

Said thousands of Pro War supporters came out. Looks more like a group of about 130 stick fighters to me. These people are a true disgrace called free republicans.

What in the hell came over them to put on this rally?!?? Its downright STUPID looking!!!!

And the Camp Casey events have around 3000 attendees at any time lately and are fully unified, protesting, and asking the hard questions reporters should have.

[TK421]

58. Egg and cheese on a bagel does NOT look pretty coming out...

:puke:

[quisp]

60. How creepy is that?

When he said Truthout was an "Internet news organization" and one of the chickenhawks said "oh, you're the enemy."

Sometimes it's breathtaking how sucessful the RW noise machine has been in separating people from the institution of the press.

[goodboy]

61. CHICKENSHIT CHICKENHAWKS! They don't want you taking their

picture because their fucking ashamed of themselves, as well they should be.

[gratuitous]

65. The 24-year-old woman with the sign

Sooooo ca-yute. Yeah, I'll just bet she has "friends" over in Iraq. Friends whose names she can't quite recall, if she had been asked. She's perfectly happy to carry a sign and gas up her car with fuel that someone else is fighting to secure for her, but I would have loved to see her reaction if it had been suggested that SHE sign up.

[mikeysnot]

66. F'in sad

that little smug prick saying he would join if there was a draft, what a pud...

[underpants]

68. That reaheaded guy looked perfect for the military

Fit. Hiarcut. Perfect, just perfect.

[underpants]

69. Draft? There was one?

That's all I could think about as he tried to think of reasons for not signing up.

[sakabatou]

82. Is it this one?

[Laurab]

83. I'm thinking that even if Faux News went to Camp Casey

they would get interviews, politeness, and real answers to their questions. These people truly are morAns, but smart enough to know they don't want to be on a video looking like the idiots they are.

[jonnyblitz]

84. "kick their ass and take their gas"

vile people. barely human.

[friesianrider]

85. Sickening.

Real happy bunch over there, huh?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

89. That last guy reminds me of a KKK rally I protested in Georgia once

I was on the anti-kkk side of the street with the GBI people. They had cameras set up and were filming the people attending the rally. I had my camera with me and when one of the KKK members came across the street to hand out their propaganda I took his picture. By law they have to expose their faces when they are on public property so his face flap was up. The pic shows how freaked he was when I took his pic and then he got in my face for taking his photo telling me he wanted my film. Luckily the GBI reminded him that if he was ashamed of what he was doing he should rethink his positions.

Asshole cowards one and all.