Holy cow!!! SERIOUS looting going on in NOLA

[KyndCulture]

and caught on tape.. on now on WDSU.

CARTFULLS of stuff... whoa...

[Cassandra]

1. How's the water level...

that they can do that?

[malaise]

2. That's normal

after hurricanes

[KyndCulture]

5. video looks like the LA riots.. this is NOT the kind of looting

I've ever seen before... three four shopping carts full of stuff...

they aren't taking food, it's beer and liquor from the looks of it... egads somebody is gonna get shot.

[KyndCulture]

11. btw I meant the NUMBER of people in the street by that comment.

I heard the racist remark the reporter made, that's not what I meant, I mean the street was swarmed with looters.

[malaise]

18. I've seen worse than that

I've seen them with TVs, stoves, freezers, etc. Stealing liquor is normal after hurricanes. People steal whatever is available. Some are pros and some just take what is available since there is no light so no security. Disasters bring out the best and worst of humanity.

[Imagevision]

43. Depends - if you have to feed a child- or life threatening? sobeit!!

[Horse with no Name]

3. I wonder if they grasp the concept that they can be shot for this?

One has to wonder.

[strategery blunder]

6. New Orleans ain't in Florida

I do believe that Louisiana still has a definition of "excessive force" in its property-defense laws.

[mknmehappy]

56. Not with Marshell Law.

[Terran]

60. That's "martial" law

and your point should be well taken.

[malaise]

9. In my neck of the planet some of the worst looters

are the people responsible for security. Who else has vehicles on the road to move nice things like TVs, DVDs, and other high end techie stuff.

The poor go looking for food and clothing, but the real thieves have a few hours to 'cash in'.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

28. Yeah, I'd have no dilemma in grabbing food/clothing for myself and family

But electronics? Gimme a break. Dumb greed.

[devilgrrl]

37. I heard a lot of "rescue personnel" in NYC after 9/11 helped themselves...

to people's stuff when lower Manhattan was evacuated. I heard this from serveral people who where personally affected by it. Interesting in that you never heard any of that via the media.

[nickinSTL]

4. hardly a surprise...

typical behavior during any crisis...unfortunately.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. Most of the stuff is going to get ruined anyway

the businesses will get their insurance to cover most of it.

[bribri16]

42. Most of the stuff is already ruined. n/t

[Lex]

7. The grocery stores will just claim it on their insurance

or write it off on their taxes as a loss.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

31. Yeah, it's either that or it all rots

Better it serves some useful purpose.

I'm talking about things like food etc. that decay. How do you call those? Perishable?

[Claymore]

52. ...

Just out of curiosity, who do you think will ultimately pay for all this looting?

[sniffa]

57. conservatives

they're the onLy ones who pay taxes (as weLL they shouLd).

[theboss]

8. I've always been a little afraid of New Orleans

I've been everywhere, man. New York, DC, Boston, LA, Atlanta...the only two cities I've ever actually felt that something bad could happen to me at any moment were New Orleans and Detroit. Well...Asbury Park as well but I'm not sure that qualifies as a city at this point.

[Carni]

14. Detroit is not that bad

Yeah if you start driving around in neighborhoods and have no clue where the hell you are... you can get yourself in trouble, but it gets a bad rap IMO.

[theboss]

17. Well, I made that mistake once

But I've made that mistake in some really sketchy neighborhoods in Baltimore and DC too. Detroit is bad.

It also didn't help that I found a police officer at a gas station and asked for directions....and he decided to escort me out of the neighborhood. It was almost like he thought, "I must save this dumb white man from himself."

[anarch]

35. agreed...

I always attributed it to the stark contrast between the ubelievably destitute lifestyle of the "have-nones" who make up a large proportion of the local population and the ridiculous display of consumption that went on in the tourist districts. The hatred was almost palpable...although I grant that I walked around in some pretty shitty neighborhoods in NOLA, just by not knowing any better.

[BamaLefty]

10. Well of course

its NOLA. Would you expect anything different? I wouldn't.

[demo dutch]

13. Same thing during Andrew, they'll declare marshall law soon

Looters were coming into our house and neighborhoods at the time...People are sick!

[CityZen-X]

16. Marshall Law

Lets see if they make Marshall as permanent as gas prices. Could this be the the launching point for police state Amerika?

[demo dutch]

21. They had no choice in So Miami, because the rifraf and looters on the

street were everywhere I can't even begin describe the utter choas. The authorities were nowhere to be found the first 2 days. We were basically on our own, and several of my neigbors made citizens arrest. The first 2 nights we had night watches to make sure looters were kept at bay. We were the only ones without a gun in the house, it was most frightening! It was the only time we wished for one in order to protect ourselves.

[CityZen-X]

23. You should own a gun..

for your past experience in Miami, and to protect yourself against the machinations of this so called govt!
Our founding fathers knew what time it was when they gave us that right to bare arms.

[mknmehappy]

58. Perfect response!

Hit the nail right on the head!

[-..__...]

27. You loot, we shoot.

[patdem]

38. I see your Kalishnakitty..and raise you one sniper kitty

>

I got this pic from a DU'er too! LOL

P.S. Love your Kalishnakitty!

[theboss]

22. Marshall Mathers?

It's martial.

Anyway....I doubt they have enough NG to control New Orleans at the moment. How are they going to control Baltimore? Baltimore can't control Baltimore.-

[CityZen-X]

25. I thought is was Martial

but it looked d so much like marital law. which I am currently surviving now. I just couldn't wish the same torture onto New Orleans!

[patcox2]

24. Who is Marshall Law? Is he related to "Martial Law?"

nt

[htuttle]

26. It's a blues band

[CityZen-X]

30. More Like Marital Law

just ask my bitter half!

[enki23]

33. i believe he was a character in one of the "tekken" series of games

.

[WilliamPitt]

29. Martial law, folks

Martial law, i.e. military law.

[CityZen-X]

36. I have experience in that law..

the moment I said "I do"!

[demo dutch]

39. Sorry you're right martial law, occasionlly I misspell was not educated in

the US and English is not my native language. Very Funny!

[Synnical]

19. After Andrew

[raccoon]

15. Well, why the hell not?

These people are small potatoes.

The really big time looters are the Ken Lays and Bernie Ebbers.

[Cooley Hurd]

20. There you go!!!!

Excellent post, racoon!:thumbsup:

[ultraist]

46. Ditto on that thumbs up for racoon! n/t

[ken_g]

32. Don't forget...

Chevron, exxon, haliburton, kbr , deibold, etc...

[ultraist]

47. Welcome to DU, ken_g!

:hi:

[theHandpuppet]

34. Well, because it's WRONG, perhaps?

Doesn't matter who's doing it -- it's still stealing. So Ken Lay and Bernie Ebbers are crooks... does that mean I can steal my neighbor's car or rob and store and that's okay? What kind of logic is that? Hey, I could use a few things myself, but just because there are thieves in the world doesn't give me the right to be one.

[raccoon]

40. No, but I'm sick and tired of the way society as a whole and

of course, the media hoes, demonize the small-time crooks, locks them up and throws away the key, but the white-collar crooks, they just get a good slap on the wrist, if that. And if human misery could be measured, most of the time they cause a lot more misery than the small-time crooks.

[mondo joe]

41. Whether small time or big time crooks, the victims are the same.

And it's the same lower income people who get hurt the most by either.

[bribri16]

44. Who the hell gives a damn about looting at a time like this?

The wealthy are going to be compensated for all their losses anyway. If these people are looting "stuff" it's probably no no use anyway. If they are taking food, I say more power to them.

[mondo joe]

48. Why do you assume only the wealthy get looted?

People's HOMES have been looted.

Small businesses are not generally owned by the wealthy and many are just getting by.

[bribri16]

51. Most small businesses have insurance. I feel for them but I put

people first. No, I don't think looting of "stuff" is right but it's a matter of priorities. Killing over property is just not my priority.

[mondo joe]

53. "People" own those small businesses and many barely scrape by - the

increase in insurance costs will be quite a treat for them.

Maybe after they lose their businesses they'll have to loot to survive too and then you can care about them.

I grew up in one of the poorest neighborhoods in a poor city. There were people who'd try too operate a business in the neighborhood, and they all eventually failed. None of them were wealthy and most scraped by just like everyone else did.

Looting is not retribution for the wealthy, and those it hurts most are the poor.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

45. Well, that's the BIG story in New Orleans, isn't it?....

...The media certainly wouldn't want to focus on the rising water, or those killed in the storm, and the newly homeless.

That might be way too much to expect.

[ultraist]

49. Yeppers! That's the M$M's big story: petty theft looters

Why aren't they discussing the big time looter George Bush who stripped the hurricane/flood disaster programs to defer the money to his war profiteering cronies?

As someone said on another thread, this looter issue is a "boogieman."

[riverwalker]

50. mandatory sharing

is how I see looting. Most other cultures share everything in life threatening disasters, not hoard it up. How is strealing a television any different than what Halliburton does? How is looting a Walmart any worse than looting an entire county such as Iraq? (Except no one dies) Maybe what we are seeing is a microcosim of the macro, a trickle down effect.

[raccoon]

54. You've got a way with words. nt

[catmandu57]

55. The way I see it is

those people were left there to die anyway, they are the have nothings or they wouldn't be there now, I'm not going to bitch about them stealing until someone tells me where that eight billion dollars that was supposed to be used in Iraq is.

[Henny Penny]

59. I think you see it right.....

the people looting may well have just lost everything...

a lot of the stuff looted was probably foodstuffs that were going to spoil anyway....

or other goods about to be destroyed by flooding....

and who gives a shit when there are God knows how many people trapped in their attics right now!