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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:27 PM
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FEMA head: Twin Span is gone= Bridge between NO and Slidell
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 11:45 PM by steve2470
Supposedly entire bridge was washed away by a huge storm surge.


<snip>The I-10 bridge over the lake is called “The Twin Spans.” <snip>

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:uKODi0txbncJ:www.worthwhilemag.com/entry/2004/04/08/drive_time.php+%22Twin+Spans%22&hl=en

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:28 PM
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1. What's Twin Span?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:28 PM
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2. a major major bridge in the area nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:30 PM
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3. I believe this refers to the bridge on I-10 between NO and Slidell,
goes across the narrow part of Lake Pontchartrain. If they lost the freeway bridge, that's A BIG DEAL. Sort of like then the Delmarva Bridge across the mouth of Chesapeake Bay got wiped out years ago. Major commuter nightmare for years.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:33 PM
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6. I think you're right nt
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:35 PM
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9. Yes that's the info I read..
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 11:35 PM by SaveAmerica
I-10 bridge 'severely damaged'
Monday
10:12 p.m.

By Ed Anderson
and Robert Travis Scott
Capital bureau

Sections of the Interstate 10 twin bridges linking St. Tammany and Orleans parishes over Lake Pontchartrain have been “severely damaged’’ in both directions, some probably knocked out, Louisiana's highway boss said.

“It is just like in Florida,’’ Johnny Bradberry, secretary of transportation and development, said, referring to damage caused by Hurricane Ivan last year to the I-10 bridge in the Florida Panhandle.

Bradberry said he will send crews to fly over the site today to assess damages.

Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Mike Brown called Katrina one of the worst disasters he has seen, exceeded only by California wildfires.

“This is a catastrophic storm,’’ he said. “People will not get back to their homes for several weeks – if not longer.’’

Lt. Kevin Cowan, a spokesman for the Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness, said the only confirmed deaths have been three New Orleans area nursing home residents who died while being transported or after arriving at shelters in Baton Rouge.

Cowan said communications with St, Tammany Parish has been spotty and little is known of the number of persons rescued from that area.

He said said at least 31,000 evacuees were still hunkered down in shelters in south Louisiana, and 917,000 households were without power in 23 south
Louisiana parishes.

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:04 AM
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19. This is the causeway, no? It's been so long since I've been there. NT
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tuckdogg Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:06 PM
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28. Nope
No. The causeway runs straight north of New Orleans across Lake Pontchartrain. It connects New Orleans to St. Tammany Parish. The Twin Spans is the I-10 bridge on the east shore of the Lake. It connects New Orleans to the city of Slidell, which is currently completely submerged.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:31 PM
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4. One of the pages I checked out said I-10 isn't safe either.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:33 PM
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5. Twin span
Is the major artery between Slidell and NOLA for those going east or northeast (atlanta, BHM, etc.)

Three major roads lead out of the "Bowl" of NOLA -- the twin span, the causeway, and the I-10 West route to Baton Rouge. This is more than 1/3 of transportation into/out of New Orleans.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:33 PM
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7. between Slidell and east N.O. I-10. This is bad.
This is really bad. There is only one other road into N.O. from the east, the two-lane US 11.

The way around this would ne to take 1-12 west to Mandeville and cross over the Causeway -- miles out of the way (hopefully they will have the sense to take the toll off the Causeway for the duration).

Repeat: This is really, really bad and could take years to fix.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:34 PM
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8. Is that the sort of causeway across Lake Pontchartrain?
My husband lived in Slidell for a couple of years as a pre-schooler and has vague memories of it that he's told me about from time to time. (This was during World War II, when his dad was doing war work down there.) It sounds like some of the worst devastation was in that area.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:38 PM
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11. No, the Causeway goes straight across the lake to the north
Mandeville to Metairie. It's the longest bridge in the world (of course the lake is only 15 feet deep).
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:36 PM
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10. Exact nature of destruction is not confirmed yet but the initial
message was " The Twin Span is gone ". Not damaged or any other word.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:42 PM
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12. It means that St Tammany is cut off from NO except for Causeway
?
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:44 PM
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13. Are you saying
if I want to visit NOLA again (I live in Southeast Alabama), when I get to Slidell the damn bridge is gone? Do you realize how many people from Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and other points east use that? Damn!!!
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:44 PM
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14. Illustration I just worked up
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:51 PM
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16. Holy shit.Our family is in Lacombe/St Tammany Parrish/Pearl River/Slidell.
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 12:01 AM by CottonBear
This is catastrophic. Mr. CottonBear is a NO native. His family is there on the Northshore. Damn. He saw ont he earlier news that I-10 into NO was flooded. Hwy 90 (NO to Gulfport) is GONE: washed away according to Haley Barbour (R Gov. MS) I saw this on the news briefing earlier today.

We haven't had communication w/ family since this AM. They stayed in Lacombe. :(
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:55 PM
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17. There are a lot of people waiting for word
:hug:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:05 AM
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20. I see you've posted on the weather forum. It's the only real news.
Do you live/have family on Northshore? I am very scared. Why can't they send help to St. Tammany from the north or west? I am very upset. I hope they decided to evac instead of stay like they palnned to yesterday. They haven't had a direct hit since Betsy in 1969.

:scared:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:14 AM
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21. That forum is the best.
My relatives are in Washington parish. Just a bit farther north. Should be OK, I am just keeping fingers crossed. Hope all of yours are OK. :hug:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:46 AM
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24. Thanks. Hope your family is OK too. Pray for the survivors. :hug: n/t
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:24 AM
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22. Thnx. Now I remember. Spent 16 days there in 1987. Foggy bottom now.
My head that is. . . what a tragedy this whole thing is.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:47 PM
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15. Confirmation by the mayor
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 11:48 PM by steve2470
Mayor Ray Nagin reports the Twin Span Bridge is "totally destroyed" and that 80% of the city is underwater. Click for streaming video.

per WWL TV web site

http://www.wwltv.com/
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:59 PM
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18. 80% of Slidell is underwater? This is so sad.........n/t
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:30 AM
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26. Is this the bridge that got rammed by the huge oil platform that
got loose from its moorings in the storm? ABC News (or was it Nightline?) showed the accident. The platform was in port for repairs and got loose and took out the bridge. An amazing sight.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:35 AM
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23. This isn't good
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 12:36 AM by George Oilwellian
I have relatives in Slidell and they live about two miles from the lake. It's my understanding Slidell is in chest deep water from the lake to Old Spanish Trail and my sister-inlaws house is part of that. It also means thousands of other homes. I lived there for over 10 years and can't begin to imagine the devastation if the water is that far inland. VERY expensive homes in gated communities that are right ON the water. When I drove through there this past summer, I shuddered at the thought of their getting hit by a hurricane.

Also, there's an old bridge that parallel's the twin span and I wonder if it survived. It'd be a nightmare for I10 traffic since it's only two lanes but at least there is an alternate connection between the two shores.

It's just hard to imagine the twin span gone. It was a huge bridge. That had to be one hell of a surge to take it out. I hope everyone evacuated from that area.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:36 AM
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27. I hope your relatives are safe.
Best of luck to them.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:01 AM
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25. " ..... at least 31,000 evacuees were still hunkered down"



Was the term "hunkered down" ever used in common conversation until last year's Florida hurricanes? I don't recall hearing it, if so.

How does one actually "hunker"?

Or is it possible to merely "hunker" without "hunkering down"?

Can one possibly "hunker up"?

Are some people better at "hunkering" than others?

I just don't know.


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DaDeacon Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:49 PM
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29. I guess hunkering ...
is something you do only when needed ? This post is proof that saddness and humor can exists without it being irony!
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