Folks, I Don't SMELL Blood..... I Now TASTE IT!!

[matcom]

here it is . just ONE man's opinion but here goes.....

THIS (TraitorGate) is the CATALYST.

what does this do? THIS opens up our "free press"... FINALLY

they now have EVERY reason to open up this admin!

this is a SCANDAL! Pure and Simple.

Espionage, Deceite, LYING, EXPOSING, TREASON!!

Heads WILL roll, and the PRESS will "press on"

Today it is Niger...
Tomorrow....

Bin Laden Family flown out...
Afghan Pipeline connections...
Halliburton....
Harken....
Bechtel...

its coming. IT IS COMING!!!!

not even NOVAK can stop it

oh BABY!!! LIFE IS GONNA BE GOOD FOR THE NEXT YEAR STORM TROOPERS!!

we have FOUGHT the GOOD FIGHT and we are about to be REWARDED!

FREEPERS????? you BETTER be SHITTIN' In Your Pants A**HOLES!

[Terwilliger]

1. stop eating yourself

this will pass over...like they all have before

[LittleApple81]

4. I hate when you say this. But we have seen all the horrible things

come and go. And Bush is still there.
Today in the Senate, when Byrd could not get his amendment to take a second look into the 16b part of the recontruction money that he thought was outragious, I was really upset. I cannot believe it! The repugs didn't even bother to address Byrd's questions about who is fleecing Americans with the Iraq recontruction.
Barf!

[Flying_Pig]

45. See Post #20 on this thread about that very subject Little Apple....

:hi:

[diplomats]

13. I'm hopeful it won't

but have been through enough with this admin. to keep my optimism somewhat in check.

[Solomon]

73. Hey T! There's gotta be a "straw that breaks the camel's back."

Methinks this is it. :evilgrin:

[Octafish]

2. Matcom, what's your pa say?

BTW: Does he think Joe is also a company man?

[matcom]

3. I CANNOT SAY

and i am SORRY AS HELL!

rest assured that MUCH of what i speak is a DIRECT RESULT

but, alas, i cannot go further x(

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Well well

I do know this is it...

I can also taste the blood

[trumad]

12. But will all this effect your golf game?

?

[CatWoman]

19. aw, come on

whisper in my ear. No one can hear. I won't tell anyone :D

[Stephanie]

27. Oh, that is TORTURE

I am dying to know what he says. But if what he said gives you this much hope then I am satisfied.

This is the most hope I've felt since Dec. 12, 2000.

Maybe you could just give us a HINT...

Or is the hint in your first post?

[oregonjen]

43. Thanks for the info!

I don't have enough posts to send you a private message. So, I'll do it here.:D

[oregonjen]

26. Excuse me for not knowing, I'm a newbie

Who is Matcom's father?

[OKNancy]

68. If you are still reading

Ex-CIA

[lanlady]

69. Matcom's wonderful dad--

--is a retired Company man.

;-)

[Octafish]

71. A patriot who served his country in time of war and peace.

The gentleman is retired now, but keeps in touch with his friends who still are in the government service. His son, a veteran of the US Army, has been helping his Republican father learn more about the real Bush "administration."

Many on DU call the Bushes The Bush Family Evil Empire, or BFEE. To me they seem more like the public stooges for a global criminal conspiracy, the likes of which not even Ian Fleming dared imagine, for they involve the takeover, corruption and near-destruction of the United States government.

Thanks to people in the civil and uniformed services, like Matcom's dad (and quite a large number who post here on DU), we still have the Constitution. And that's how we ALL can save our nation.

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, oregonjen! Thanks also for sending us in Motown Joey Harrington. Like matcom and his family, he's the Real Deal!

[oregonjen]

79. Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome. I enjoy coming to DU everyday! In fact I'm addicted! Us Ducks miss Joey. After last weeks loss to the WA St. Cougars, we're really crushed.

[frank frankly]

5. you are 100000% right

the media was the only thing keeping this ship of murdering fools afloat.

i will never forgive the media for this war, this looting of a soverign nation, this goddamn unmitigated moral, political, metaphysical, historical, intellectual clusterfuck we've created.

thanks for pulling your head out of the sand, media.
fuck you for every death.
your treason will not be forgotten.

[cmd]

6. Matcom, you give me hope

Now we'll see how free the free press really is.

[Snellius]

7. The smirk finally got smacked.

I never thought it would happen. But it's true. Bush may survive but the smirk will be gone. He's really screwed. He either finds someone and touchs off a further who knew what or he doesn't and is accused of harboring a traitor. I think it's beginning to sink in to the administration what a hellish trap they set for themselves.

[Q]

15. Some of you aren't paying attention...

...The mainstream media has already gone on to other things. Polls (like the WP) say that people want this thing investigated...but don't think Bush* had anything to do with it.

- The media HAS to report it...but that doesn't mean it's going to hurt Bush* in any way. He certainly won't lose any votes because of it.

- It's great that some of the Bushies may have to fall on their swords...but it's just silly to say Bush* will suffer because of it. The Bush* monster lives on.

[Name removed]

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[Q]

74. For hell sakes...not the 'prozac' retort...

..that always seems to come about when you can't support your argument. You might want to read that Washington post poll again: no one seems to think BUSH* was involved in any way.

- Bringing down a Bush* lacky means absolutely nothing. The Bush* regime stays in place and the Bush* lacky is replaced with another lacky.

- Big deal...so the Bush* WH gets some 'bad press' for a week or so. If this 'scandal' can't be directly connected to George* then things go on as before.

[SammyWinstonJack]

47. Maybe it's just me but...........

You sure seem to rejoice in raining on everyone's parade. You always seem to take the negative side. Why is that? :shrug:

[Q]

80. Perhaps it's because your 'preemptive' parade is self-deluding?

- Celebrate all you want...but in a couple weeks we'll see the same whining we've heard after the dozens of scandals that went nowhere over the last three years.

- The Bushies can get away with anything if they can get away with hiding Reagan and Poppy Bush's presidential papers and national energy policy...covering up their DIRECT connections to Enron, Ken Lay, bin Laden and Saudi Royal Families...obstructing investigations into 9-11 and their blatant lies about WMD and Iraq.

- You don't see a PATTERN here? I've seen no evidence that this 'scandal' will be any different. Rove or some other stooge will fall on their swords and that will be the end of it. Bush* will go on to break records in collecting campaign cash and the American media won't TOUCH any scandal that might hurt his chances to keep the corporate WH in operation after 2004.

- Put your parade on hold.

[Redneck Socialist]

61. not to rain on everyone's parade...

but this story is not going to go anywhere.

[ozymandius]

8. What's next Matcom?

Will it be a trickle or a biblically inspired flood? What does Dadcom say?

[BuckeFushe]

10. I had a tooth pulled, I've been tasting it all day.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. Tell your dad and his CIA cronies maybe now they'll understand why it's

not good to rig the press.

Love ya buddy, but your dad has to get the CIA made this possible by giving Nxon's dirty tricksters the idea that controlling the press was a good thing...they did it on the right and the left from the 50's trhough the 70's and continuing.

Had there been REAL investigative reporting in America, this would not have happened to them but there isn't.

They can't use the cost excuse like they do for overseas reporting...this is Washington DC.

[frank frankly]

21. nothingshocksmeanymore...

I think you're awesome.

matcom, pass this onto your dad for me:

first, thanks for everything the CIA has done that is good, unknown and especially unknown.

second, please stop every front of this war BushCo has waged on the world.

but also
CIA, LEARN A LESSON FROM THIS!!!!!!!!!!
DON'T BE FUCKING ASSASSINS FOR EVIL TWISTED PURPOSES!!!
RETHINK FLOODING THIS WORLD WITH SMACK AND CRACK AND JAILS!!!!
WHAT HAPPENED TO MALCOM, MLK, EVERS, JFK, RFK????
ARE YOU DONE FUCKING UP THE WORLD WHILE DROPPING LSD LIKE WATER???

yes, I've read many a book on the CIA. the freedom of information act really opened some eyes.

so, thanks, but not if you don't change asap.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

44. Thanks Frank and don't get me wrong

I have great respect for the CIA and cringe at some of the moronic statements made about them here at DU.

Like all aspects of law enforcement, there is a bright side and a dark side to the CIA.

The NSA has 40,000 employees. Anyone who thinks that every single one of them loves Bush is a one-dimensional thinker. That's not how it works.

Be that as it may, for all the money they suck up and all the freedoms they VIOLATE when not kept in check, there is NOT ONE single episode (catastrophic) that has happened in america that they have averted. Not North Korea (in the 50's), not any of the Viet Cong offensives, not the first or second WTC bombings, not the bombings of the barracks in Lebanon, I could go on and on.

But their work at least in the 50's, 60's and 70's at LEAST also kept the far RIGHT as in check as it kept the FAR left.

Not so anymore.

Hopefully, they got the fucking memo now.

[frank frankly]

49. i agree, i agree

thanks for clarifying further!!!!!!!

[Zhade]

28. I'm missing something here...

What's all this "Matcom's dad" stuff? I am uninformed on this.

[frank frankly]

32. i'm asuming from the inference that his pa may "know" the company

lots of company men and women out there, after all.

lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of company people!

i love the good ones.

the bad ones have a habit of killing people like me, and many of us DUer's. or our leaders. or both!

[never cry wolf]

38. From what I have read here,

a retired spook. (I hope that's not a derogatory term for the CIA, I have great respect for them as I feel most are honorable and love their country.)

[BattyDem]

14. The only thing better ...

than Bushco going down is the fact that Novak started it all!

[demnan]

41. Yes, that evil presence from the house of Slytherin.

[Snellius]

16. You know it's bad when all the Freepers disappear from here

Anyone notice that the Freeper provocateurs seem to have skulked away somewhere. They'll only venture back maybe if Arnold wins. Otherwise, they can't stand the pain.

[Stephanie]

76. The Freepers are here

Or maybe the Limboboils - look around you. They're here.

[Padraig18]

17. Am I the only one...

... whose head almost exploded when I reflected on the fact that the CIA was the one who finally got the PRESS to do their job? :eyes:

[Oilwellian]

18. Matcom!

I could kiss you! Thanks! If you're correct, we MUST have a DU celebration gathering. :loveya: :hi:

[Flying_Pig]

20. I smelled the "blood" two months ago, and have been chilling a..

nice bottle of French bubbly to celebrate with (at the right moment) since. That moment approaches. As I predicted in my post stating "The Cabal's" demise two months ago, Bush will lose by 20% to 30%. In the meantime, it will be sooooooooo nice to watch them all self-destruct.

We must take care though. There are a number of Dems who, through their alliances with AIPAC/JDL/JINSA, support Israel's fascist Likud, and (most importantly) their best friends here ...PNAC. Starting tomorrow, I am going to call all DEM Congressional members, and, presidential candidates, and demand they stop supporting PNAC, either directly, or indirectly, through their allies!! It won't do us much good to take out the people at the front door (Cheney, Libby, Perle, et al), if those using the back are free to continue to subvert our government, ......vis-a-vis our own goddamn Party!!

[union_maid]

22. I'm cautiously euphoric

It could "go away" but it'll always stink. This is not a blow job. It's not even Iran/Contra. As bad as that was the wrongdoing was a bit abstract in the minds of people who don't know Nicaraqua from El Salvador let alone the significance of going around Congress the way that they did, and furthermore don't care. And most of all, things suck in the country. That makes things look different. That means there was a crack in the armor already. Anyway, Watergate went away, but when it came back, it came back with a vengence.

[never cry wolf]

23. I agree

The actions of this admin has pissed off ALOT of people that started out on theor side. Not only the CIA, who has many good reasons, but the press has been treated with disdain and the military has been shit upon as well. Hell, even the SCOTUS came out with two decisions against the wishes of the neo-cons in their previous session, they want their pound of flesh too, i bet.

They have all been keeping a secret scorecard just waiting for an opening, the slightest crack in the veneer of "honor and integrity" and for the time when public opinion was at a point where the sheeples might listen.

The dripping has turned into a steady flow, soon to burst into a flood, IMHO.

[scottxyz]

24. I hope you're right

We've been waiting so long for this regime to crumble.

The fact that they have the CIA after them now could be the beginning of the end.

[markses]

25. Jesus, Matcom - police your affect

I'm sorry, but I've seen you freak out on "scandal" after "scandal."

It's getting a little embarrassing.

[matcom]

29. what's "embarrassing" to you is MUSIC to MY ears

this IS happening

doubt it or RELISH in it

you CANT stop it either way

[markses]

36. WOLF! WOLF! HOLY SHIT WOLF!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[frank frankly]

37. i should reiterate that i am thankful to the cia for this,and other things

and i believe you on this, matcom.

things don't "break" in the mainstream media. they are coordinated to the point of scripted.

this fall's obliteration of BushCo was written this summer.

oh thank goodness. this nightmare will end.

[Stephanie]

75. You're right! "Never introduce a new product in August."`

Hah hah hah!

[liberalnurse]

30. You help re-energize my hopes.

There is light at the end of the tunnel! Thanks for the inspiring message.....O8)

[Darranar]

31. It better be!

Hopefully, this will show that the Repubs aren't "strong" on defense. That junk is BLASTED by this. I never thought that I'd cheer on the CIA, being the blameamericafirstist that I am, but I am now!

ANYONE BUT BUSH FOR 2004!

[Name removed]

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[molly]

39. She was undercover - BTW

go back to your cave!

[scarletwoman]

42. The CIA does NOT file a formal complaint to the DOJ for a DESK AGENT!

You have NO facts on your side!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

46. Bush sucked Clinton's dick...there...now is it news to you?

[LittleApple81]

48. wow... You really went all out on that one!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

50. sorry couldn't help myself

I am really having it UP TO HERE with Republicans today...WAY UP TO HERE!!!

[Oilwellian]

54. ROFLMAO NSMA!

You know I love ya! :hi:

[Rose Siding]

51. edit, cuz now it just makes no sense!

[Flying_Pig]

53. You repeat exactly what Rush said today, verbatim. You and your

fellow "dittoheads" are soon going to me toast, so go ahead and hang on to Rush's lies, ...chump.

[Junkdrawer]

55. Rush is going to be a little busy with other matters....

:evilgrin:

[molly]

34. Great news!!

and now Matdad knows the truth. I think it was Libby under orders from evil Cheney. Let us pray that this is not swept away.

[Sterling]

35. This may bring Bushco down but

It may serve to distract from Bushco's far more serious crimes. We will see if they let him off with this and leave everything else under the rug.

[Octafish]

65. Let's see that the Plame Affair gets LEVERAGED...

... to expose the rest of the criminality — a Bushy trail leading directly back to the murder of President Kennedy in Dallas almost 40 years ago.

Today, it's pretty clear Cheney-Bush-Rove compromised the national security of the United States for political ends — intimidation of whistleblowers in the civil, uniformed, and intelligence services. It's likely even the average GOPartisan, Freeper and brainwashed TV preacher-watcher can understand and remember that.

So, when it comes to the Bush Organized Crime Family, Treason IS a good start, DU Friend Sterling. Let's see these traitors get the what's for!

Now's the time! Let's get the noisemakers going. Help our friends in the FBI, CIA, NSA, NRO, USA, USN, USMC, USAF, USCG, DIA, and everyplace else good people know the TRUTH about the cabal get the word out. It's why the Founding Fathers put in the First Amendment and guaranteed a Free Press — the only BUSINESS important enough to be mentioned in the Constitution.





We can't stop now. Bushler still has the button.

[Imajika]

52. Your really overdoing it here...

What kind of nonsense is this? The CIA are the heroic good guys out to preserve American democracy? The CIA, or "the agency" as I noticed your calling it, is waging war against the PNAC Bush administration?

Come on. I am just not buying it.

Have you created some sort of fantasy world for yourself? Everytime another Bush scandal comes along the predictable "Bush is done", "Bush is finished", "Bush is toast" threads start piling up and far too many people are suckered into believing that this is really the end of the line for Jr.

Then ofcourse, a week or two later, the dissappointment and anger sets in all over the forum as the scandal drops off the media radar screen having been replaced by shark attacks, a barrel of insecticide found in a barn in Tikrit or some other useless inane silly story.

"what does this do? THIS opens up our 'free press'... FINALLY"

It is absolutely clear to me, by reading this one sentence of yours, that you don't understand the American media at all. This will not "open up" the US press anymore than Enron did. This story was all but dumped in their laps weeks ago and they didn't bother with it until the Justice department opened a preliminary investigation.

What is more likely to happen is that after a week or two of banging on Bush for this, the Republicans will complain about "liberal bais" in the press and the media will attempt to be even handed by either building up Bush again, or attacking some Democrat somewhere. Infact, that Democrat will probably be Davis if he loses next week. Arnold will be all the rage if that happens, the Wilson affair will be yesterdays news.

"this is a SCANDAL! Pure and Simple."

Only if it is fed constantly, and I do mean constantly. If no new revelations come out on nearly a daily basis - the media will move on.

"Heads WILL roll, and the PRESS will 'press on'"

Oy. Oh dear lord. The press will "press on"? LOL

"oh BABY!!! LIFE IS GONNA BE GOOD FOR THE NEXT YEAR STORM TROOPERS!!"

No Matcom, life is good for this minute. The media is cyclic. It will not always be after Bush. Today Bush is getting bad press, maybe that will continue for awhile - but the pendulum will swing back against us. The key to winning is to work for and hope Bush has more bad days than us. I am not confident that this will be the case.

Lastly, the American national security establishment is very right wing and Republican oriented. The very notion that the CIA is after Bush and his PNAC buddies is absolutely laughable to me. It is obvious that SOME in the CIA don't like Bush, but I have no doubt that most do. Republicans almost ALWAYS give the armed forces and intelligence services LOTS of money, where Democrats have quite often cut those same budgets. Who do you think the security establishments prefer? Do you think the CIA would risk losing the Republican gravy train? I don't.

"Folks, I Don't SMELL Blood..... I Now TASTE IT!!"

I know your having fun. And we've had some dark days and should enjoy the good ones, but I really think your exaggerating badly. Somehow I think that taste won't be so good a couple weeks from now.

It worries me that so many people underestimate just how difficult it is going to be to defeat Bush. Scandals happen to White Houses. This won't be the last. I just hope people get a grip and understand that the game is nowhere near over and the good days won't last forever. Posts like yours leave the impression that Bush is a wounded duck who'll be easy to pick off come election day. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Imajika

[matcom]

56. go right ahead. mock me. TELL IT TO "DAD"

you know NOTHING of what you speak

rock on brother.

don't worry. i still love ya

sit back, watch and LEARN

[Junkdrawer]

57. Here a line from Jim Lobe...

To say that there's blood in the water and the sharks are circling around the Bush administration's Iraq policy would be understatement at this point.

It's more like a blood bank that's been dropped into the water, the sharks have taken the first bites, and Amazonian piranhas are clamoring for visas on an expedited basis.

more...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EJ02Aa01.html

[Stephanie]

77. Hey! What is this RUMSFELD scandal??? From your link:

"Added to these concerns is the lack of transparency, a potential new scandal that surfaced this week when a Florida newspaper reported that Rumsfeld's office had asked the Special Operations Command in Tampa to "park" US$40 million for eventual use by the secretary. The diversion, which was disclosed by a "whistleblower" in the Pentagon, was never reported to Congress and is now being investigated by an internal auditor. The Washington Post on Tuesday called the investigation "explosive", in major part because lawmakers have long complained that Rumsfeld has kept them in the dark on many issues."

Is is CHRISTMAS? All of these presents for ME, all in one WEEK?

THANK YOU SANTA!

[Imajika]

59. Okay matcom

I will take your word for it.

Lets see what happens.

I will be plenty happy to admit I'm wrong if the media is still talking about this 1-2 weeks from now.

Thanks for the reply.

Imajika

[Beetwasher]

58. Chuck Hagel on CNBC DESTROYING the Admin.

Absolutely devastatingly destroying the admin. I'm stunned...

[BattyDem]

60. No way! Hagel??

:wow:

[Flying_Pig]

62. Watch Hagle challenge Bush in the Repug primary......

He's been waiting for his chance, and this may be it.

[Beetwasher]

63. Now Dick Armey is Trying to Make the story about Novak

This if fucking great!!! The Repubs ALL have to admit how serious this is!!!!! They can't deny it, they can only try shifting blame. Holy shit, they're fucking trapped!!! This is incredible!!!

[scottxyz]

64. Just a couple of principled Republicans need to cross the aisle

...and then there will be enough votes for an independent counsel.

We should be pressuring Republicans to stand up for law and order like they claim to.

Remember the old line "It's not about the sex - it's about the perjury."

Well it's even worse now: "It's not about the threat to national security - it's about the treason."

[Beetwasher]

66. Dude, this is INSANE! I can't believe what I'm seeing on the news tonight!

The Repubs are totally cornered! They trapped like rats in a box! They can't deny how incredibly serious this is, they've all said a special counsel might be needed, but give the DOJ time first. They've mentioned the apparent lack of urgency in the WH and that they haven't even bothered questioning their own staff...I'm floored!

[Dr Fate]

67. Tasting the blood of dragons bestows the power to understand bird-language

and they are chirpping "the chimp is going down"

[Snellius]

70. Threatening someone's wife with death as political payback

that's the crime involved here on its most basic human level and that's not an easy charge to dismiss.

[Stephanie]

78. And that gives Wilson the righteous position in the public's mind

Anyone can understand his position - defending his WIFE, who was ATTACKED to get at him. It's like the Wild West.

The WH position is morally indefensible. They can't win this one in the public's mind. No way.

[chookie]

72. How the WH is parsing this

They first countered this serious charge by ridiculing it, saying that there was no reason to believe that Plame was anything other than a glorified secretary, and after all, she didn't get killed, so what's the big deal.

They they attempted to politicize it -- to cast aspersions on Wilson's career, and his recent change of allegence to Sen Kerry, and that it is merely hate speech to hurt this "popular president."

But then Scotty McClelland said over and over and over and over again -- let' get this straight -- the *crime* is *deliberately* leaking classified information.

Sounds like they are going to try and run the "stupid" defence.

Burn baby burn

[neverforget]

81. Matcom, one part of me is overjoyed, while the other, more cynical part

part is pessimistic. I'm not breaking out the champagne yet.....although I really want too.