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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:38 AM
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Drink-soaked Popinjay alert: "A War to Be Proud Of" in the Weekly Standard
Oh, Hitch, where will your sophistries end?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=5995&R=C68B2A43B

A small slice of bloviated loaf:
. . .
I have a ready answer to those who accuse me of being an agent and tool of the Bush-Cheney administration (which is the nicest thing that my enemies can find to say). Attempting a little levity, I respond that I could stay at home if the authorities could bother to make their own case, but that I meanwhile am a prisoner of what I actually do know about the permanent hell, and the permanent threat, of the Saddam regime. However, having debated almost all of the spokespeople for the antiwar faction, both the sane and the deranged, I was recently asked a question that I was temporarily unable to answer. "If what you claim is true," the honest citizen at this meeting politely asked me, "how come the White House hasn't told us?"

I do in fact know the answer to this question. So deep and bitter is the split within official Washington, most especially between the Defense Department and the CIA, that any claim made by the former has been undermined by leaks from the latter. (The latter being those who maintained, with a combination of dogmatism and cowardice not seen since Lincoln had to fire General McClellan, that Saddam Hussein was both a "secular" actor and--this is the really rich bit--a rational and calculating one.)

There's no cure for that illusion, but the resulting bureaucratic chaos and unease has cornered the president into his current fallback upon platitude and hollowness. It has also induced him to give hostages to fortune. The claim that if we fight fundamentalism "over there" we won't have to confront it "over here" is not just a standing invitation for disproof by the next suicide-maniac in London or Chicago, but a coded appeal to provincial and isolationist opinion in the United States. Surely the elementary lesson of the grim anniversary that will shortly be upon us is that American civilians are as near to the front line as American soldiers.

It is exactly this point that makes nonsense of the sob-sister tripe pumped out by the Cindy Sheehan circus and its surrogates. But in reply, why bother to call a struggle "global" if you then try to localize it? Just say plainly that we shall fight them everywhere they show themselves, and fight them on principle as well as in practice, and get ready to warn people that Nigeria is very probably the next target of the jihadists. The peaceniks love to ask: When and where will it all end? The answer is easy: It will end with the surrender or defeat of one of the contending parties. Should I add that I am certain which party that ought to be? Defeat is just about imaginable, though the mathematics and the algebra tell heavily against the holy warriors. Surrender to such a foe, after only four years of combat, is not even worthy of consideration.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:40 AM
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1. ... ignoring that the CIA put Saddam Hussein into power also. n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:50 AM
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2. oh god. I hear his voice in my head while I read it!
aaaccckkk!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:01 AM
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4. Isn't it tragi-comic? It's always all about him, ultimately.
Overblown phrases whipped into frothy pseudo-syllogistic clouds of personal vindication.

No time for evidence or logic: now you're messin' with the Hitch. And "messin'" is exactly what it is.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:07 AM
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8. I can not wait until he meets Galloway!
He will make mush out of his "frothy pseudo-syllogistic clouds of personal vindication".

Great description by the way. :)
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:32 AM
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10. Yeah! ...and the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism.
:7
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:56 AM
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11. Was it William Safire who coined that phrase for Spiro Agnew?
And was it Safire, as Gore Vidal once asked, who wrote Agnew's memorable line, "Ours is the greatest nation in the country?"

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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:13 AM
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13. I only remember Agnew said that sort of thing all the time and the 'bots
screamed with joy at them.

Greatest nation in the country -- like the "country of Africa"? :7 (GWB)
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:58 AM
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3. Incredible hubris
I don't understand this need to portray every opponent of US policy as some sort of fanatic madman.

Saddam Hussein was a despot, a tyrant, an evil man. But, despite Hitchen and the other neocons delusions, he did maintain a secular regime, and there is no evidence that I can see that he was not rational. He got outplayed, but there is nohing in his actions that indicates he wasn't making decisions based on logic and risk assessment.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:01 AM
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5. I looked up "pompous ass" in my dictionary and found this:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:05 AM
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6. Yeah he debated everyone
Talk about high on himself or just high period.
This pResident has always been hollow from what I can see.
And this is the best spokesman the neocons can find for their dollars?
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The White Tree Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:05 AM
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7. Reminds me the chorus of a song
with the lyrics changed, most recently featured in the movie Napolean Dynomite.


Forever War, I want to see forever war,
Do you really want to fight forever, forever and ever
Forever War, I want to see forever war,
Could it be we'll fight forever,
Forever War
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:12 AM
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9. "...bureaucratic chaos and unease has cornered the president..."
"...into his current fallback upon platitude and hollowness."

Exactly who does Hitch think is gonna fall for that dollop of bullshit? The President has done nothing more than dispense little gumballs of banality since... forever. And Hitch used to make fun of him for it ("Why Dubya Can't Read").
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:05 AM
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12. My thoughts exactly. And he can't even utter the hollow platitudes
without garbling them! What a nincompoop.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:15 AM
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14. I think the RNC has opened an expense account at the local
liquor store under his name.
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