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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:28 PM
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CNN: Coast Guard using black paint on the houses with dead people,
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 01:29 PM by tgnyc
red paint on the houses with injured: Hancock County, Miss.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:29 PM
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1. Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
That is like something out of the middle ages.

God help those people.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:47 PM
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36. Actually, it is common Public Health symbol that is still used todday.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:48 PM
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I had never heard of that.
When we had hurricanes and floods in the past few years, of course, unfortunately, people died, but I had never heard of painting the door black or red. I had only heard of painting the name of the insurance company and perhaps their phone number on their homes.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:56 PM
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50. I wa a public health nurse for a while. We learn all those things common
to the trade.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:58 PM
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51. Do they remove the injured from the houses after
identifying them? Or is it sort of a triage kind of thing where the most injured get pulled, and the houses marked are the ones where the least injured are?
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:29 PM
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2. Oh. My. God. n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:29 PM
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3. Reuters reporting Biloxi spokesman says hundreds feared dead.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:33 PM
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8. In just ONE housing complex!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:40 PM
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22. yes, 100 about that one apt. but now talking of Hancock cty.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:37 PM
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17. Goddamn... :(
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-08-30T181136Z_01_SCH065511_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-WEATHER-KATRINA-DEATHS-DC.XML

BILOXI, Mississippi (Reuters) - Hundreds may have been killed by Hurricane Katrina in the Mississippi Gulf Coast city of Biloxi after being trapped in their homes when a 30-foot (9 meter) storm surge came ashore, a spokesman for the city said on Tuesday.

"It's going to be in the hundreds," Vincent Creel told Reuters. "Camille was 200, and we're looking at a lot more than that," he said, referring to Hurricane Camille, which hit the area in 1969 and destroyed swaths of Mississippi and Louisiana.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:41 PM
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26. I heard the FEMA people say it is much, much worse then Camille.
Devastation worse then any they have seen before.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:44 PM
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30. The storm was just so frigging HUGE...
Powerful, like Camille, but much, MUCH bigger. :(
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:46 PM
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34. Bushies finally realized that--with George cutting his vacation short.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:29 PM
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4. Jesus....
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:30 PM
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5. Oh God. How horrible. What else can they do?
This is so sad. I wonder how many of these folks were unwilling to leave and how many were unable to leave.

Prayers to everyone with friends and family there.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:33 PM
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7. they are asking for docs nureses at Hancock cty hospital.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:47 PM
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37. Wish I could help.
Getting married on Saturday. There is no way I could miss more work to go help. Maybe my hospital will pay for the trip?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:59 PM
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53. I saw one family that said they were evacuating from NOLA but it
was taking so long (traffic) and was so slow they went to the Superdome instead.

I saw another women (CNN or MSNBC) who was there because of her Mom. She said her family was ready to evacuate but her Mom wouldn't go and they couldn't get her to so they ended up at the Superdome.

That same story was shown in Mississippi. It was a large extended family and a woman was saying she wouldn't leave and her kids and grandkids wouldn't leave her there alone so they ended up staying. She regretted her decision but lucky for them, they were alive.

I'm sure everybody has a story.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:32 PM
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6. also said 'hundreds killed"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:34 PM
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10. we really need more resue helicopters as the Coast Guard is over-
whelmed.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:33 PM
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9. Notice they aren't removing the injured
Just marking the houses.
:(
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:35 PM
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12. There is probably one team surveying
And other teams behind them. Or something like that.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:35 PM
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13. cnn showing lots of injured being removed via the baskets.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:44 PM
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28. Marking them so rescuers will know to stop there, I suppose? nt
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 01:46 PM by raccoon
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:45 PM
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33. Yes, but it'll take time. This is the most efficient way to use
time and resources.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:46 PM
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35. No. Any disaster response team has an initial group that does triage
They provide any immediately effective first aid, but otherwise, they just mark bodies with tags (or in this case houses with paint). It's standard procedure in mass casualty incidents. Grim, but necessary so that the teams who provide the relief can not waste time with the dead or nearly dead and use their efforts on those who will benefit from the help.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:48 PM
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38. Triage maybe? nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:51 PM
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42. now it looks like a military combat helicopter (not the white ones of CG).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:34 PM
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11. Can I just say, props to the Coast Guard. W/o enough NGuard
to take up the slack, I'm glad the CG hasn't been dispersed to Iraq yet.
May these victims RIP.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:36 PM
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14. cnn said over 1000 resuced yesterday. no numbers for today yet.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:41 PM
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24. well, that's somewhat encouraging, i didn't realized they got that many
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:42 PM
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27. now they just said 1200 appox "already"--yes, glad they are there.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:37 PM
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16. yes, where is the Nat Guard?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:40 PM
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21. In Iraq
They're national, just not our nation.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:41 PM
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25. yes, i heard that the miltiary was short of chopters in general.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:41 PM
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23. Where are the fucking Marines and don't give me the witty "Iraq" answer!
Just this morning I saw a typical formation of 3 Chinook transport choppers fly overhead from our nearby Yuma Marine Corps Air Station. How many of thousands of people could those 3 Chinooks alone might have saved if they received orders to head out to the Gulf at noon last Sunday. How many people could they have saved from rising waters after the hurricane? How many thousands of gallons of drinking water could they have brought to stranded people who are drinking contaminated water right now? How many people could they be evacuating right now? JESUS! Call your governors people, I know I have mine. I don't know what else to do. :cry: :cry:
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:36 PM
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15. While Bush ate cake & the MSM misinformed America... god knows how many
died... and they are still dying, suffering... dehydration is a bitch people, cholera and all the nasty diseases that come with being forced to drink water that is contaminated by rotting carcasses, sewage and chemicals!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:38 PM
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19. I think I heard them say they only have 60 heliocopters.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:39 PM
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20. "Karen" on cnn is just gushing--rather sickening to listen to her but I
like to watch what is going on. i know--put the mute on!!
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:37 PM
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18. Sick to think about it..
Why weren't these people pulled out of their homes? This is the friggin 21st sentury and you are right it's like the dark ages.

The govern't could have done more. This is why this country must change.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:44 PM
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29. Coast guard tolking of toxins in the water--CNN said WHAT? news to
her at this point.

Hey Karen get you heard out of the gushy stuff!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:45 PM
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32. Karen *cnn' is a real dupe!! here the coast guard is talking of toxins and
she continous to gush .
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:45 PM
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31. OMG. This is like something out of the middle ages with the black plague.
How heartbreaking.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:48 PM
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39. saying up to thighs at SuperDome now. only up to knees an hour ago.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:51 PM
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41. Is this from cnn?
I'm watching local WWL and haven't heard anything yet from them on the Superdome...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:52 PM
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43. yes,
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:01 PM
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61. Thanks for the info... n/t
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:53 PM
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45. Yes. CNN reporter said over the course of an hour
in the dome, it went from her knees to her thighs, and some authority or other said it will definitely go higher (didn't say how high).
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:55 PM
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49. Is that inside the Superdome? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:58 PM
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52. yes, they cut to the Dome for a short report. Things are bad there and
more are arriving. the hospital evacuated to the Dome--they are in the process of doing this now.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:04 PM
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57. Oh those poor people.
Maybe some of those people (CNN's Daryn Kagan, for one) making the snarky comments criticizing people for not evacuating should look at the horrible ordeal for the people that did evacuate. This is just heartbreaking.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:02 PM
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55. I believe Jean Meserve (?) said that was how
high the water had become outside the dome on her way there and back to hotel, I think. Don't think she meant inside the dome.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:04 PM
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56. yes, the depth of the water OUTside the dome.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:49 PM
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40. standard operating proceduce for Public Health.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:52 PM
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44. "hot in there"-toilets overflowing, even one man jumping from the Super
Dome. so says Karen.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:54 PM
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46. lots of elderly are sick as they pick them up in the houses.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:54 PM
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47. said some sitting in wheel chairs in the water all night.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:55 PM
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48. talking of lots of elderly in these homes. (and the media warned them
to get out)--remember all these cracky comments.like' they had their chance"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:59 PM
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54. whow the video footage is great (sad but great)--miles and miles of
homes covered with water. some have tips of hourses sticking out.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:04 PM
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58. It isn't the procedure that is so horrifying to me as much as the scope
of this catastrophe.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:21 PM
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59. yes, see this thread also.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:24 PM
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60. Rodeodance, can you please post the link to the thread? :)
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 03:25 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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