I am sick about the animals trapped in the

[ellie]

flood waters and the debris, so I gave to the Humane Society's Disaster relief fund. For those of you who are interested, there is a link on their website and it also details their disaster preparations:

http://www.hsus.org

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[CatWoman]

3. how about you taking care of YOUR priorities

and other individuals taking care of theirs?

[ellie]

4. Of course MildyRules

I am concerned about people. I am also concerned about animals too. Often they are overlooked.

[demnan]

5. You can do both

Have you done anything?

[MildyRules]

8. YEAH I have! Have you?

I have over 40 family members down there. They need help more than some animals. BTW, I have two cats who are like part of the family. AFTER ALL of the people are safe, THEN I'll worry about the freaking cats and dogs!

[ellie]

10. You seem to be pretty upset.

I am sorry to hear about your family members. I hope that they are safe.

[MildyRules]

13. Thanks...and I am upset

Rightfully so, I think. Sorry for snapping.

[Thtwudbeme]

12. If I had forty family members "down there" (not sure where that is)

I think I might be doing more than bitching about another poster worrying about the animals on an internet board.

But, then I am not you.

Perhaps you are relieving tension.

Stephanie

[MildyRules]

16. What the F do you want me to do Stephanie?

Levitate down there and beam them up to my house?

[Thtwudbeme]

22. I'll tell you what I want you to do.....if you see a post where someone is

worried about the animals in New Orleans, or other areas hit, DON'T click on it. IF you can't stop yourself, then don't respond in an ugly manner to those of us who are thinking of them.

As far as your family members are concerned, I genuinely hope that they are doing as well as possible under these horrible circumstances.

Stephanie

[MildyRules]

25. I don't need you to tell me what to do.

If you think taking care of animals is more important than making sure all the people are taken care of FIRST, then we have nothing to discuss.

[Thtwudbeme]

27. Hey, you asked.

I was just trying to help.

[Mairead]

40. What do you suppose you're accomplishing with your criticism?

Many people --I'm one-- don't make a lot of distinction between humans and the species of non-humans who share our lives. If you do, then so much the worse for those cats who are 'like' part of the family. Think how frightened, desperate, and vulnerable they'd feel, if they knew that in your eyes they're not really part of your family, and that you'll sacrifice them if need be.

[MildyRules]

42. I wouldn't

sacrifice my wife, or my kids, or YOUR kids for them if that's what you mean. Sorry, as much as I love them, HUMAN life comes first.

[Mairead]

49. I didn't think you understood what we're saying, and every post you make

convinces me more completely of that.

None of us would sacrifice humans for the wellbeing of non-humans---but we wouldn't sacrifice the non-humans for the humans, either. That's the part you seem unable to grasp. To us, our non-human family members are real family, not 'like' family. They're not animated pieces of furniture, to be taken care of as long as convenient and sacrificed when they become a burden. They're real family members, and they're no less deserving of our care and protection than our kids are.

So don't criticise us for something you aren't able to understand, okay? It does you no credit.

[CatWoman]

17. *snarf*

[MildyRules]

20. Yuck it up

That's real compassionate. I'm seeing what some DUers are really made of.

[CatWoman]

23. I had to yuck it up

as you came into this thread with both barrells blazing, just because people are concerned about helping helpless animals.

See the irony in it all?

And what does that have to do with what "some" DUers are made of?

You sure are showing what "you" are made of.

[MildyRules]

30. Yeah, I believe

we should take care of people first. That's what I'm made of. Obviously you're not.

[CatWoman]

38. you know, when I have bad days like you are having right now

I try my best not to post on DU.

Don't let friends post stupid is my motto.

Last month I lost one of my cats quite suddenly, and it took a lot for me to shake that chip off my shoulder.

I wound up apologizing to a lot of people in the process.

*hint, hint*

For me, all life is precious. We could not have know about your family members. But you didn't have to come into this thread pissing on everyone.

Not unless you're trying to imitate R. Kelly.

[MildyRules]

39. I understand.

I just think people take priority over pets and zoo animals.

[Thtwudbeme]

26. That DUer that you are bitching at has been here since almost day 1

I almost met her personally, and would very much like to.

Maybe you should stick around for a bit before you start bitching about compassion of the long term members

[LisaL]

33. That's for sure. If you can't feel compassion for poor animals

-then there is little hope for you. We are responsible for those we tamed-so, get a clue.

[MildyRules]

36. I do feel compassion for them

and will gladly help, AFTER the people have had their needs met.

[LisaL]

41. By then, it will be too late.

You can't wait to help animals after you help all the people-the animals will be dead. Since we domesticated them, we are responsible for them and they are not able to help themselves when everything is flooded.

[Cattledog]

45. You're a punk ass Mildyrules

[MildyRules]

I love you too.

[demnan]

14. I have

[Thtwudbeme]

6. We can do both on DU

I have been worried about the animals too.

So was Gandhi if you remember correctly--

It is not innapropriate to consider the smallest of the victims.

Stephanie

[Modem Butterfly]

24. Easy Cruella

It's possible to help both human AND animal victims of Katrina. And in any event, making sure that the animals are safe directly helps humans- wounded, hungry animals are a huge hazard, and dead, drowned animals even moreso.

[LisaL]

31. How about people are able to take care of themselves

better than domesticated animals will ever be able to.
:eyes:

[Beaverhausen]

37. Mildyrules- I really hope your family is OK

I understand why you posted what you did when you are so worried about them. :hug:

You should know that there are many people here who are extreme animal lovers.

We care about all living beings.

We certainly care about people but we can care about other creatures as well.

[distantearlywarning]

2. Also Noah's Wish

They go to disaster areas and help animals in need.

www.noahswish.org

[Beaverhausen]

9. Saw the head of that org on TV last night

she said some people so clueless they leave thier dogs chained up so they drown when the flood waters rise instead of letting them go free

[LisaM]

7. Let people divert resources where they want to

if I had gone through this kind of hell, finding my dogs alive and well in a shelter might be enough to get me started back on my feet.

Thanks for the link. This is actually where I wanted to donate my money.

[Eloriel]

18. Excellent point. Also the converse is true as well -

some people who need comfort after all this might adopt pets who've lost their masters.

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[Xenotime]

15. Some people..

are just leaving their pets behind. How heartless. These animals can't vote or speak for themselves. And yet very few people are taking care of them.

[CatWoman]

21. some had to leave them

as the shelters and/or hotels wouldn't allow the pets in.

If it were me, I'd just have to drive as hard and fast away from danger as possible.

WITH MY PETS!!!

[Modem Butterfly]

28. AGREED!

[LisaL]

43. I don't get this about hotels. First, they should really allow

animals even in non-emergency situations. And second, at least they can allow animals in emergency situations. It doesn't even make sense to do this to people and their pets. Some people will rather drown than leave those poor pets alone to die.

[Mairead]

50. Agreed. I'm one of them. I only have one cat left, but if she can't

go somewhere, I won't go there either. We'll take our chances together.

[Dr Fate]

19. What about the N.O. Zoo animals? Any reports?

???

[Beaverhausen]

32. oh shit. that is a great zoo

I was in NO in 1984 (?) for the world's fair. That was one of the best zoos I have ever seen.

Hope the animals are OK.

[KittyWampus]

29. Animals Are Always Close To Mother Nature. That Is My Small Comfort

if some don't make it... and many won't.

[Bridget Burke]

34. Some "homeless" NO animals are now in Houston

The New Orleans SPCA trucked about 260 to the Houston SPCA. They are now up for adoption to good Texas families. Donations of food & money are being expected for those who can't adopt.

http://www.spcahouston.org/spcahouston/Default.asp

Organizations helping humans are more important, but kicking a few bucks to the animals won't hurt.

[LisaM]

51. Are these animals JUST made homeless?

Aren't they even going to give their own families a chance to get them?

[Guaranteed]

35. Is the Humane Society bringing down boats and equipment

and whatnot to rescue animals?

[Tinoire]

44. Damn. Just damn. I can't even imagine leaving without my pets

dog and cats...

But the worst is imagining them all alone during such a crisis...helpless... scared and lost :(

So sad...

[Mari333]

46. Ive been thinking about the animals all day too

and it breaks my heart.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

47. Ellie, thank you so much for providing this link. The check is going

out tomorrow.

:hug:

[jilln]

48. I think we should cure cancer before we help ANY hurricane victims.

And before curing cancer, we should take on racism, but before that end hunger, and before that we should create world peace. One thing at a time, people, you can't have it all and if you care about any issue but world peace, you are a bad human being who thinks just plain WRONG.

Hopefully it's obvious I'm being sarcastic. It's wonderful that everyone has their own "pet" issues and is trying to make the world a little better. Instead of wasting energy attacking others who are trying to help, just help in your own way and be glad others are doing the same. Helping animals is equally as important as helping humans (who are animals, by the way) and sometimes more urgent, because they are forgotten and left for last.