gas just went up 20 cents today. reg is 2.99

[all.of.me]

but of course, i use the 3.09 grade. jesus. when will this end. i am furious, especially as dipwad fuckface plays guitar during a major natural catastrophe.

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. Use the reg grade. My brother in law, a Chrysler employee talked

us out of the premium hooey a long time ago. :hi:

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Down the road

it's still $2.50 and in another part of the town it's $2.60. I'm glad I'm not over there.

[all.of.me]

4. my car smells weird and does not run as good with the lower grade stuff

it makes a difference for me.

[ScreamingMeemie]

12. Seriously though, his job is working with gasoline grades and their

affects on engines...and it makes no difference in all the testing they have done. Good engines are good engines and bad are bad. I'm just saying...and we've saved a heckuva lot of money and have one 20 year old truck with 300 thousand miles on it to prove it. It's all in the oil change. :hi:

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

8. I paid 2.64 for middle grade yesterday. I drove by the

same gas station today, and it jumped to 2.81.

Fuck you, Bush.

[ReadTomPaine]

10. This is not an option for most high compression or turbocharged engines.

They require high octane to prevent detonation and engine damage.

[ScreamingMeemie]

14. I'll get the info for you and scan it in...

It's what he does for a living. :hi:

[ReadTomPaine]

22. I'd love to review it..

I don't study fuels, but I have plenty of experience with performance automobiles and there are sound reasons for needing high octane in those applications. Newer engines with proper electronic management function with lower octane fuel but run on reduced horsepower (boost is automatically lowered on turbos, etc) as a fallback setting.

This means that the engine may not suffer detonation or damage or even knock or ping, but you won't be getting the power you paid for and ostensibly want from your engine.

Older cars aren't so forgiving, as knock sensors are much more crude once you get more than 10 or so years old. If they feature a particularly high compression ratio or are heavily boosted with a turbo or supercharger, detonation will damage the engine internals eventually, esp. under hard use.

I've actually *seen* this happen in front of my eyes and held the broken parts in my hands, so you can consider it visually verified and 100% accurate.

Now if your car *doesn't* need super, then don't bother. There's no benefit to running super in an engine not designed for it. That, I think everyone can agree, is a waste of money.

[all.of.me]

16. it could also be the elevation.

i'm at 7500 feet.

[3waygeek]

23. Not so much the case anymore...

most modern engines are controlled by computers that will change the timing to accommodate lower octane fuel. You'll get lower mileage than you would with premium, but it's not enough to offset the lower cost of regular.

[ReadTomPaine]

24. See my post #22...

[dsc]

3. I just got off the phone with a friend in Greensboro

gas started at 2.50 now it is 3.00. A huge increase as you can see.

[ReadTomPaine]

5. There will never be enough hurricanes to satisfy the energy industry.

These are men who smack their lips and rub their hands whenever an oil disruption occurs. It's money directly in their pockets and they say as much to anyone who asks. Charming.

[aresef]

11. I remember during the Enron scandal NBC aired a video...

...of an oil rig or something like that in flames while you hear Enron employees cheering in the background.

[ReadTomPaine]

17. Yes they make no bones about it...

Naked greed, and no situation is better than taking advantage of people unable to prevent it.. "I dream of selling water to people stumbling out of the desert" I recall one saying during the rolling blackouts in California. These are the types of people that run the industry (and the White House, for that matter).

[still_one]

6. the 87 octane should be fine

[aresef]

7. Aiyiyi...this is insane.

[kick-ass-bob]

9. I just saw on the way to karate tonight $2.59. When I came home it was

$2.79 at the same station.

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

13. $2.79 here...

Up a whole quarter in two days. :grr:

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. No jumps here in SE MI yet.

I think they're a little skittish what with our governor and all. :hi:

[HockeyMom]

18. It jumped FORTY CENTS

at the same gas station in 5 HOURS. I passed by the station at 4 PM and it was $2.79 (yesterday was $2.69). My daughter just passed the same station now at 9 PM and it was $3.19.

If this isn't PRICE GOUGING, I don't know what is.

[all.of.me]

19. i put a little gas in last night at 2.79, this morning 2.99

i went back and filled up at the ONE station that does not raise prices until after they close. needless to say, they were mobbed. i can see why people get into fights over gas. it's freaking me out.

[LibraLiz1973]

20. The tune he was strumming was

Go f*ck yourself America"

[all.of.me]

21. lol - thanks for the laughs!

[Ladyhawk]

25. $2.97 for regular, Sonora, CA n/t