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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:31 PM
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ATTEMPTED MURDER OF CIA AGENT VALERIE PLAME
Editorials and columns regarding the sinister Bush Administration
exposure of CIA agent Valerie Plame, wife of former US charge d'affaires
to Iraq Joseph Wilson, fail to demonstrate a clear understanding of what
actually took place. Media reports treating the exposure as an attempt
to embarrass Mr. Wilson underrate the significance.

Valerie Plame was a clandestine field agent working under corporate
cover. The exposure of an undercover field agent is considered
tantamount to a death sentence that requires immediate remedial action.

The intentional exposure of field agents by government officials is not
unknown. Espionage is a dirty business and agents have knowingly been
sacrificed for strategic and tactical purposes. During World War II
agents were trained for missions to areas where their captures were
certain. They were given false information for the Nazis to extract for
deception purposes. Such deception operations were highly successful.
The Nazis did not believe the United Kingdom and the United States could
be that ruthless.

The exposure of Valerie Plame is in a class by itself. Mr. Wilson
offended the Bush Administration by insisting that the public was
informed that false information had been disseminated by the President
himself.

http://www.topica.com/lists/SlickPlus2/read/message.html?mid=908728722&sort
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:35 PM
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1. That poor woman.
She is the pawn in all of this.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:35 PM
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2. Outstanding Article.
The BFEE defined, from the article:

The intended lesson for Mr. Wilson and any potential
emulators to take to heart is that if you cross President George W. Bush there will be no compunctions about arranging the death of your spouse.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:36 PM
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3. great catch
it was attempted murder
wow. sometimes its just, wow.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:37 PM
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4. This is what I been saying. They are diverting us from the real issue.
Anybody who knows anything about espionage, knows that exposing an agent is indeed a death sentence. It constitutes attempted murder in my book, as well as treason. They have been hawking this "the guilty party could serve as much as ten years" bullshit. That right there was what made me think they were going to sacrifice someone.

Ten years my ass. This is death penalty material. Its not just the killing of the wife, but there may be other agents who are also exposed now that she is exposed.

It makes me sick to my stomach that someone put a lot of people's lives in danger, just to get revenge on someone or to intimidate someone.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:41 PM
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5. It's not just her
but any contacts or agents working under/with her.

This could have,and most likely did,cause a rollback of a whole network of agents,putting many lives at stake.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:53 PM
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8. her contacts but EVERY AMERICAN! she was tracking WMD for cry'n OUT LOUD!
oh well, that's probably part of the TRIFECTA PLAN! :argh:



"The recession -- no question, I remember when I was campaigning, I said, would you ever deficit spend? And I said, yes, only if there were a time of war, or recession, or a national emergency. Never thought we'd get -- (laughter and applause.) And so we have a temporary deficit in our budget, because we are at war, we're recovering, our economy is recovering, and we've had a national emergency. Never did I dream we'd have the trifecta. (Laughter.)"
(Remarks by the President at Meeting of the Leaders of the Fiscal Responsibility Coalition Room 450 Dwight D. Eisenhower Executive Office Building April 16, 2002)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020416-8.html

http://globalfreepress.com/mp3/trifecta.mp3

more...
http://globalfreepress.com/trifecta

peace
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:46 PM
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6. K, K, K, and Clinton, Gore, McCain
Three assassinations and three assinations of character. The entire cabal army went after Clinton; election strategists went after Gore and McCain. Only one or two could have gone after Plame (and the CIA), but how many in the cabal approved or even provided the order?

Are there any other CIA mouths to condemn this?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:49 PM
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7. until I hear Wilson charging this
I'll consider this ridiculous. As far as I know, Wilson has only referred to the laws about revealing operatives. Even those charges are not necessarily likely to result in criminal convictions.

This sentence is a red flag for me as far as this article:

As events unfold leading up to the next Presidential election, always
keep in mind that Bush and the people around him, like the Zionists
running Israel,
believe that they are the anointed of God who wants them
where they are to carry out their respective agendas leading up to
Armageddon.


The reference to the "Zionists running Israel" seems a little gratuitous to me. What seems to have happened here is likely to be just hardball dirty tricks, no apocalypse needed.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:55 PM
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9. Martin said Wilson's wife and children are in hiding
no federal protection, in hiding of their own.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:02 PM
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11. rove probably wants to keep them outside the country...
i hope they submit a STATEMENT to the web no matter where they are.

or at least through their LAWYER... are they still allowed :scared:

peace
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:00 PM
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10. no one could KNOW for sure cept ROVE and CREW...
yet no ONE can deny that to expose an OPERATIVE puts them at RISK and if what has been reported is TRUE, that she was working on tracking WMD, in these times of TERROR and the PATRIOT ACT the GUILTY PARTY certainly qualify for GITMO but possibly even EXECUTION.

noFACTS probably ain't sleep'n too sound EITHER.

if it is TRUE that RUSHJOB has been taken OUT all the REST of the neo-CONS probably gettin nervous as well. :bounce:

this is DEADLY serious, bet...

peace

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:20 PM
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16. Unfortunately, My Friend
The law will not provide for execution in this matter. But one of the reasons this thing is gaining the resonance it has with the people is that most stories introducing it include that her brief was monitoring prokiferation of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. This is precisely what the people have been trained for nigh on two years to fear most, and it shocks them to see these criminals undermining their own protection for their private political vengeance.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:31 PM
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18. you never know...
U.S.A. Patriot Act :evilgrin:

that is the meme i love spreading once i debunk all the horeshit they heard from rush and crew or after explaining the basic story to a newbie ;->

this is a big deal because even the 10 percenters get this... and they may be realizing that they ain't part of the 1 percent neo-con club :evilgrin:

my friend, do you think the worm has finally turned?

i think we are at the end of the begining... FINALLY :bounce:

:hi:

peace
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:04 PM
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12. Listen, why the hell you think spies like Hanson and that other guy
I forget his name now, Aldridge, that's him, were paid so much by the soviets to expose agents? And when they did, lots of people died. The whole network goes down.

You can read about this in the espionage cases. It was a disgusting thing to do. On all sides. Novak says they didn't tell him that he couldn't use it, but my question is, did Novak ask THEM if he could use it.

And whoever leaked it, committed attempted murder on several people. That's why they keep trying to belittle wife's role in CIA. If she was a secret agent, then outting her was tantamount to an invitation to murder.

No matter how you slice it, it was a pretty disgusting thing to do.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:10 PM
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13. It's extremely disgusting
and a felony, and possibly the end of Bush's presidency depending on what is found out.

So why charge attempted murder, and bring the "Zionists" into it, unless one wants to make the whole thing look nutty? Neither attempted murder nor the Zionists are necessary.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:17 PM
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15. Oh. I didn't know about the Zionist thing.
I don't know what that is.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:14 PM
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14. kick
:kick:

I think those responsible should be prime candidates for execution.

no joke.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:23 PM
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17. George Sr. thinks so
thebigidea posted a quote from Sr yesterday I think it was. It was a great post.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:38 PM
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19. It occurs to me the last 2 Presidents to double cross the CIA
were Kennedy and Nixon.

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10digits Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 11:38 PM
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20. Hardly a good source.
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 11:39 PM by 10digits
Get something else.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 12:13 AM
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21. Hmmm I never thought of
opinion pieces as a source.

:eyes:
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