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delver Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:41 PM
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Able Danger, Able Shmanger
What about all these pre-9/11 warnings--including one from Israel that gave the names of the 4 lead hijackers among a list of 19 total? Do we not deserve to hear about these warnings. It is not like Able Danger existed in a vaccum, there is a plethora of evidence that the US government had ample warning and intelligence and still failed to prevent the attacks. Read on...


From Paul Thompson's Timeline:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaytheytriedtowarnus

What Did Israel Know?

But the most remarkable warnings of all come from Israel. The issue of Israeli foreknowledge of 9/11 is highly controversial. The story is too complicated to go into detail here, but a number of respected publications (for instance, Fox News, 12/12/01, Forward, 3/15/02, ABC News, 6/21/02, Salon, 5/7/02, Ha'aretz, 5/14/02, Le Monde, 3/5/02, Reuters, 3/5/02, AP, 3/5/02, AP, 3/9/02, Cox News, 3/5/02, Guardian, 3/6/02, Independent, 3/6/02, New York Post, 3/6/02, Jane's Intelligence Digest, 3/15/02) have written about an Israeli “art student” spy ring operating in the US for several years before 9/11. The name “art student” is used because most of these scores of spies were posing as college art students. There have been suggestions that some of these Israeli spies lived close to some of the 9/11 hijackers. For instance, a US Drug Enforcement Administration report from before 9/11 noted that Israeli spies were living in the retirement community of Hollywood, Florida at 4220 Sheridan Street, which turned out to be only a few hundred feet from lead hijacker Mohamed Atta's residence at 3389 Sheridan Street (see the DEA report, 6/01). Israeli spies appear to have been close to at least ten of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers. In fact, Forward, the most widely circulated publication in the US targeting the Jewish audience, has admitted the spy ring existed, and that its purpose was to track Muslim terrorists operating in the US.

Some have claimed that the existence of this spy ring shows that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks, an argument that is beyond the scope of this essay. But if the mainstream media is to be believed, Israel gave the US several specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks. In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” . Near the end of August, France also gave a warning that was an “echo” of Israel's.

In October 2002, the story broke in Europe and Israel that on August 23, 2001, the Mossad had given the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US. The Mossad had said that the terrorists appeared to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future. It is unknown if these are the same 19 names as the actual hijackers, or if the number is a coincidence. However, the four names on the list that are known are names of the 9/11 hijackers: Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Marwan Alshehhi, and Mohamed Atta. These are also probably the four most important of the hijackers (and two of the pilots). From them, there were many connections to the others. The CIA had already been monitoring three of them overseas the year before, and two, Alhazmi and Almihdhar, were put on a watch list the same day the Mossad gave this warning.

Such detailed warnings of exact names fit in well with the reports that Israeli spies were tracking the hijackers for months before 9/11. Yet, as Jane's Intelligence Digest put it, “It is rather strange that the US media seems to be ignoring what may well be the most explosive story since the 11 September attacks...” The spy ring story did get a little coverage in the US, but more recent stories claiming that Israel knew the exact names of at least some of the hijackers hasn't been reported here at all. Perhaps the story is too controversial for the US media to touch?

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:46 PM
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1. This is another hideous example of
stuff we know is happening/about to happen. The hurricane has taken all attention away from valid news, justifiably in the US at the moment.
But Able Danger is another cog in the wheel that will bring the cabal down.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:52 PM
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2. It is indeed. Sooner or later,
These criminals are going to be made to account for their transgressions against the american people.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:15 AM
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3. We'll likely end up desperately trying to extradite them like Pinochet n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:36 AM
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4. wli, while you are highly intelligent, you are
VERY negative. You need to hang out and have a bit of joviality once in a while!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:46 AM
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5. I'm a less articulate, less talented version of Kafka or Orwell.
I guess that can make me unpleasant to listen to and/or be around.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:53 AM
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6. Damn you! Just throw up
Kafka and Orwell at me. But you are a sour soul, but
interesting.:-)
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 06:56 AM
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7. Great points, thanks for keeping it at the top..
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